Did the refs give us this game?

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the best call was the incompletion call on Crayton, when it was reviewed it was indeed a catch and shows what excellent hands and control Patrick Crayton has. i have said it in predictions and subject threads, but Crayton will be our #2 WR for years to come at least! so dependable, so consistent, so good... teams will be watching tape on him from now one, without a doubt.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
During at least tow of our TD drives the Chargers had stopped us on 3rd down but penalties on them kept those drives alive for us. One could argue (and allow me to play devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion) that if not for the refs making quetionnable calls against the Chargers they would have won that game, because we would be punting instead of marching down to score TDs. Your thoughts?

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To answer your question, NO the refs did not give us the game.

Honestly I find this post to be completly absurd.
Sorry just my opinion, nothing personal.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
I don't think the ref missed that call. The horse-collar penalty is when the defender grabs the back-neck portion of the shoulder pad to bring down the offensive player. On that play the defender grabbed onto Witten's jersey just underneath that area of the shoulder pad. The defebder never grapbbed the shoulder pad; therefore the right non-call was made.

Hey, I'm just trying to be fair!
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I get what your saying but you can't tell me that the defender actually made a conscious effort to grab jersey and not shoulder pad. It was a last ditch effort to get Witten down from behind anyway possible. His hand came down right on Witten's neck and he jerked down violently. It just so happens that he wound up with more jersey than shoulderpad. That was a horsecollar in execution if not in result.

Don't get me wrong. I hate the rule. I just want it called with consistency because you know there gonna be all over Roy.
 

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?????

Even after the roughing the passer call, the team still had to march 75 yards for a TD...it's not as if the call happened in the RedZone.

Nope. The Cowboys earned this one.

And as an aside, none of the calls were even questionable.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
During at least tow of our TD drives the Chargers had stopped us on 3rd down but penalties on them kept those drives alive for us. One could argue (and allow me to play devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion) that if not for the refs making quetionnable calls against the Chargers they would have won that game, because we would be punting instead of marching down to score TDs. Your thoughts?

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** no they did not but the SD defense gave us points on stupid penalties

I made several comments as Cowboys fans to make sure we thank Jammer (2 calls against him) and Castillo for the hands to the face. Their stupid penalties breathed life back into the offense all 3 times
 

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Kangaroo said:
I made several comments as Cowboys fans to make sure we thank Jammer (2 calls against him) and Castillo for the hands to the face. Their stupid penalties breathed life back into the offense all 3 times

One of Jammer's penalties didn't help us. We ended up punting from our own 40 -- a whole 1 yard farther out than where we would have been punting from had he not interfered.
 

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San Diego's stupidity helped us win. All those calls were completely legit.
 

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Penalties always keep drives alive (Whether they be defensive stands, or offensive drives). That is why they are called penalties, the penalize the team commiting them.
 

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jacs said:
Well the only BS call i saw was the roughing the passer on Bledsoe when they stopped us in the 1st half (i think).

That wasn't even a close call. When a defensive lineman smacks a quarterback in the head/neck area, it's a penalty every time. It was a dumb play by Castillo, but a correct call by the referee.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
That wasn't even a close call. When a defensive lineman smacks a quarterback in the head/neck area, it's a penalty every time. It was a dumb play by Castillo, but a correct call by the referee.

At the stadium it didnt look like he got hit in the head but i was happy at the time :)
 

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jacs said:
Well the only BS call i saw was the roughing the passer on Bledsoe when they stopped us in the 1st half (i think).

Castillo said it was accidental and he was just trying to go hard, but that he did indeed hit Bledsoe in the head...
 

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I can't read all of the responses, this thread is just too silly. Those calls weren't even judgement calls, they were blatant and obvious to anyone watching. Even the Chargers fans on their site didn't mention the refs other than to say that their guys weren't playing within the rules and were getting flagged for it. So for anyone to argue that the refs somehow gave us this game with questionable calls is patently ridiculous, and that person would have to be completely ignorant of the rules of football or simply grasping at straws.
 

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jacs said:
At the stadium it didnt look like he got hit in the head but i was happy at the time :)

On the replay it was blatant. He almost knocked Bledsoe's helmet off.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
During at least tow of our TD drives the Chargers had stopped us on 3rd down but penalties on them kept those drives alive for us. One could argue (and allow me to play devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion) that if not for the refs making quetionnable calls against the Chargers they would have won that game, because we would be punting instead of marching down to score TDs. Your thoughts?

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Have you been reading Art at ES? :laugh2:

Seriously though, there is no pro Cowboys conspiracy here. Just some very good calls.
 

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any team the loses, I bet about 85% of the losers were beaten by the refs. I tell you what, anytime the skins lose, pop over to their board and see how bad the refs beat em.

Refs suck, but they generally suck for both teams, what hurts is when your team is getting calls late in a close game. I would rather take the penalties early and over come then later and lose.

But as bad as the refs are thought to be (even by me) they get a lot of it right. out of a game, they might blow 1-3 calls. Surely, that can impact a game, but its all part of the game. We have lost as many games due to calls as we have won, I would wager, just you think about it more when you lose.
 

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The refs can't call every hold o/w the game would be one flag after another. But good grief it took them long enough to start calling the holds on the end of the line.

I won't defend Ware as he put himself in a position to be held very easily. I just glad they called at least a few of the extremely blatant ones including the right side of their OL too.
 

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JDSmith said:
On the replay it was blatant. He almost knocked Bledsoe's helmet off.


And regardless, we still had some 75 yards to go for the score...
 

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The refs only gave the Boys an opportunity to win the game, not the game itself. The Chargers lost.

Did anyone else notice that all of the penalties at the end of the game were against San Diego? There were none that I remember against Dallas. That's highly suspicious.
 

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Asklesko said:
The refs only gave the Boys an opportunity to win the game, not the game itself. The Chargers lost.

Did anyone else notice that all of the penalties at the end of the game were against San Diego? There were none that I remember against Dallas. That's highly suspicious.

And did you notice the 5 or 6 consecutive calls against the Cowboys in the first half?

Calling it supsicious when someone gets flagged for breaking the rules implies that the person was not breaking the rules and the flag was somehow unwarranted. That was not the case. Maybe, just maybe, SD didn't handle the pressure at the end of the game as well as our guys did and as a result did dumb things that resulted in penalties - nah, that's not possible. It must be a conspiracy.
 
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