Did yesterday pierce the dome of arrogance and stubbornness?

[kskboys]

I am super hated on this place full of mindless navie zombies
This franchise is ROTTEN to the Core

The Dallas Cowboys need to be again the DALLAS COWBOYS not the Jerry`s Clownboys!

Then why do you focus on the posters who are that? There are a plethora of great posters here who are up for great discussion and good arguments. Change your focus.

 

[kskboys]

24 hours ago you said Harbaugh wouldn’t come here?

I do not believe that is even a remote possibility.

 

[kevm3]

Jerry doesn't want the team to 'win'. He only wants to win if he's the one holding the joystick. Hopefully he's dropped the Jimmy grudge and is now open to moving out of the way and letting a GM handle business and hiring a TOUGH head coach who has results.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I do not believe that is even a remote possibility.

I don’t either. But what are your reasons?

 

[Darkhound]

Then why do you focus on the posters who are that? There are a plethora of great posters here who are up for great discussion and good arguments. Change your focus.

I will and i TRY....
IT IS JUS VERY UPSETTING to see people be fools when the evidence and history is right up there in their faces

 

[JustChip]

Over the next few weeks, there will surely be quite a few posts where people argue if Jerry really wants to win. Some will act incredulous and say others are stupid for not thinking Jerry wants to win. It's a silly argument because technically both sides are right.

Jerry wants to win.......... as long as he gets credit for it. That was the root of Jimmy squabble. Jerry loathed the fact that Jimmy was getting the credit. If you go back to the ESPN short documentary on Jerry, at one point he says if he could be anything he'd be a football coach. Jerry craves being known as a football guy. He doesn't want to be known as just an owner. He wants to be known as a GM, a pure football dude. And from there, it's been Jerry's hubris, and arrogance, and stubbornness that has led us on a nearly 3 decade journey where we have found ourselves with the likes of the Lions and Commanders in terms of postseason futility in the NFC (and the Lions have a good chance of getting themselves off that list).

But did yesterday change anything? Did Jerry finally look down, seeing what he thought was his best team in years, get demolished change anything?

Likely not. But what Jerry should do is go hat in hand to Harbaugh. Find out what Harbaugh wants. Find out if Harbaugh thinks he can win with Dak. Find out what kind of control he would want. Swallow your pride and try to get that last SB (or two). Unfortunately, I suspect he won't and what you saw yesterday and last year and the year before that and even the Garrett years will be the best we will get.

The bottom line with Jerry is the need to do it his way and get the recognition far outweighs the desire to win. It’s the same thing that every human faces with a decision between two options - which do you value more?

I had Miller Lite Club Field Level access for the Thanksgiving game. The players enter and exit through there between the licker room. Jerry was there after the players took the field and all the Jerry sycophants were chanting “Jerry, Jerry” and clamoring for his autograph. That is, in a nutshell, why he’s never going to change.

 

[Jake]

You Jim Harbaugh fan boys are something else. I stop reading the moment you mention his name.

 

[Mark]

The team thinks Quinn is elite when D can’t stop the run.

Stopping the run wasn't the issue yesterday. It was stopping the passes to uncovered receivers waving their arms around and catching long ducks in their breadbaskets.

 

[removed_20241105]

Stopping the run wasn't the issue yesterday. It was stopping the passes to uncovered receivers waving their arms around and catching long ducks in their breadbaskets.

Yeah that too. I was referring to the team overall. Yesterday’s game has a plethora of things the team stunk at.

 

[Plankton]

In a word, no.

The Joneses have deluded themselves into thinking that this organizational structure and operational mode was what won them three titles in the 90s. It wasn't. It's clear to anyone with a degree of objectivity.

 

[Sydla]

24 hours ago you said Harbaugh wouldn’t come here?

Read the post again.

Harbaugh won't come here under the current structure (Jerry wanting control over football operations). But my post above clearly said Jerry SHOULD go to Harbaugh hat in hand and find out whatever control he wants and give it to him. He SHOULD swallow his pride and give Harbaugh what he wants.

The odds Jerry actually does that? Small. Which is why in reality, Harbaugh would never come here.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Read the post again. It's like you stopped reading after 3 paragraphs.

Harbaugh won't come here under the current structure (Jerry wanting control over football operations). But my post above clearly said Jerry SHOULD go to Harbaugh hat in hand and find out whatever control he wants and give it to him. Swallow your pride and give Harbaugh what he wants.

The odds Jerry actually does that? Small. Which is why in reality, Harbaugh would never come here.

But you said Jerry wouldn’t do this lol….its whatever I certainly want Harbaugh just thought it was funny you shot it down the minute I mentioned it.

 

[1942willys]

IT is so clear that Jerry only wants to win his way; other than that he really does not care if we do

 

[Sydla]

But you said Jerry wouldn’t do this lol….its whatever I certainly want Harbaugh just thought it was funny you shot it down the minute I mentioned it.

Because we all know Jerry. He's stubborn and arrogant.

My post is about what Jerry should do if he was shaken and woken up by yesterday's game.

Frankly, I am not even sure he'll even fire McCarthy.

 

[kskboys]

I don’t either. But what are your reasons?

The glaring one is that Harby doesn't go anywhere where he cannot bring in his own people and have control over player personnel mgmt. And I don't believe Jerry would give him that. Also, Harby is going to want a long term position w/ control. That's not going to be offered here.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The ENTIRE team was so unprepared for the game. It's a coaching issue for sure because the Cowboys are NOT this bad.

All week long it was "undefeated at home" and "easy win" and the team forgot they had to actually play. They believe their own propaganda. They cannot detect the smell of their own farts.

 

[kskboys]

Stopping the run wasn't the issue yesterday. It was stopping the passes to uncovered receivers waving their arms around and catching long ducks in their breadbaskets.

167 yds and stopping the run wasn't an issue.

Have you ever thought that our inability to stop the run was a big part of the reason those receivers were open? Goes both ways.

 

[mahoneybill]

Ive been a Cowboy fan since 1965. Experienced all the highs and lows of being a Dallas Cowboy fan over the years. But this truly was an all time low, and there is only one man to blame in my opinion. Jerry Jones's arrogance, ignorance, and ego, has ruined this team for decades now. On sheer stupidity alone, our Owner/GM deserves to go to his grave without another playoff win, let alone a Super Bowl victory. Any GM with a shred of self resect would have resigned, if not been fired, years ago. Unfortunately the loyal Cowboy fan base suffers indefinitely for Jerry's vanity and self aggrandizement!

Bingo me yoo

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

Gut says NO. But Jerry could become self-aware at any time.

 

[Aven8]

Over the next few weeks, there will surely be quite a few posts where people argue if Jerry really wants to win. Some will act incredulous and say others are stupid for not thinking Jerry wants to win. It's a silly argument because technically both sides are right.

Jerry wants to win.......... as long as he gets credit for it. That was the root of Jimmy squabble. Jerry loathed the fact that Jimmy was getting the credit. If you go back to the ESPN short documentary on Jerry, at one point he says if he could be anything he'd be a football coach. Jerry craves being known as a football guy. He doesn't want to be known as just an owner. He wants to be known as a GM, a pure football dude. And from there, it's been Jerry's hubris, and arrogance, and stubbornness that has led us on a nearly 3 decade journey where we have found ourselves with the likes of the Lions and Commanders in terms of postseason futility in the NFC (and the Lions have a good chance of getting themselves off that list).

But did yesterday change anything? Did Jerry finally look down, seeing what he thought was his best team in years, get demolished change anything?

Likely not. But what Jerry should do is go hat in hand to Harbaugh. Find out what Harbaugh wants. Find out if Harbaugh thinks he can win with Dak. Find out what kind of control he would want. Swallow your pride and try to get that last SB (or two). Unfortunately, I suspect he won't and what you saw yesterday and last year and the year before that and even the Garrett years will be the best we will get.

Harbaugh can win with Dak. He won with that goon Kapernick. Having said that the Washington gig seems like the better gig for him. He can draft Maye and build it the way he wants to.