Diggs contract talks have begun supposedly

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His softness in the last few weeks of the season turned me off pause


Let this play out and franchise him next year if you have to.
On his softness, I'm pretty sure I know why. Otherwise you can't sign a CB that avoids tackling.

Doing what you suggest would most likely give Dallas higher cap hits over the next two years, as opposed to giving him an extension. The FT has its place. But it's not a cheaper alternative.
 

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His softness in the last few weeks of the season turned me off pause


Let this play out and franchise him next year if you have to.
This is how we find ourselves paying more for our guys by waiting. Either sign him or trade him but we know the deal. They are not gonna let him go so just sign him and get it over with.
 

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These are not gonna be "negotiations", ...Diggs' agent will put in a demand and Jerry will have to pay it. SJ may dance around it and act like they have leverage. Not with Pollard on the franchise tag. That's the way it is. Might as well get it over with.
That’s typically how it is around the league. You aren’t getting a guy under 25 to take a pay cut lol.
 

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Can the Cowboys afford to pay Diggs, Lamb, and then Parsons? What about Dak's extension?
They can. Because before any of them have any meaningfully large cap hit, Tyron Smith and DLaw probably won't be on the team. For example, Parsons won't have a large cap hit until 2026. Maybe 2027.
 

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I mean its an extension so it will not affect this year all that much. At most you add 2-3m to this years cap but even that is unlikely.
It will likely add around $5M and perhaps as much as $6M this year. $25M SB split over 5 years is $5M in this year. Alexander's SB was $30M. These agents love to shoot for the top.
 

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They can. Because before any of them have any meaningfully large cap hit, Tyron Smith and DLaw probably won't be on the team. For example, Parsons won't have a large cap hit until 2026. Maybe 2027.
Yep, the problem isn't paying the top talent, it's trying to tie down the second tier ....if those players are motivated by money (and why shouldn't they be) they are the ones likely to hit FA (Steele, Biadasz).
 

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I don't get some Cowboy fans. Diggs has flaws for sure but most players do and he is only 24 years old. He played 3 years in the league and already has a 1st team All Pro under his belt. He is the exact type of player you sign if you want to be in SB contention. We have the cap space. I don't want to cut Lewis but I sure as heck won't prioritize keeping a #4 CB at $4M over signing a guy who has been a huge playmaker here and who is likely to get even better. So if it makes you feel better know you can always subtract Lewis' $4M and pretend Diggs is only getting $16M per...
 

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I don't get some Cowboy fans. Diggs has flaws for sure but most players do and he is only 24 years old. He played 3 years in the league and already has a 1st team All Pro under his belt. He is the exact type of player you sign if you want to be in SB contention. We have the cap space. I don't want to cut Lewis but I sure as heck won't prioritize keeping a #4 CB at $4M over signing a guy who has been a huge playmaker here and who is likely to get even better. So if it makes you feel better know you can always subtract Lewis' $4M and pretend Diggs is only getting $16M per...
It's possibly a fear of once bitten twice shy, the way: DLaw, Zeke and even Tyron were paid top dollar and failed to live up to the contracts (granted injuries can't be accounted for).
The reality is that the CAP has risen to such a degree that ALL players want their cut....or they'll hit the market and let that decide (probably to inflate the price even more).
 

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As always, the Dallas FO tries to keep player contracts as limited as possible.
Our job as fans doesn't include that. Deal with it, if you can manage to. :grin:
 
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It's possibly a fear of once bitten twice shy, the way: DLaw, Zeke and even Tyron were paid top dollar and failed to live up to the contracts (granted injuries can't be accounted for).
The reality is that the CAP has risen to such a degree that ALL players want their cut....or they'll hit the market and let that decide (probably to inflate the price even more).
Even with the injuries Tyron lived up to his contract and then some. He signed an 8 year deal before the 2014 season. During the life of that contract he had 4 All Pro seasons (two 1st team and two 2nd team), 7 pro bowl seasons and was selected to the all decade team. We can only hope the Diggs deal will be as horrible as that one...

The Tank deal was an overpay but hasn't been nearly as horrible as many here portray. One reason we overpaid him was because he had us over a barrel by the time we did the deal. The Zeke deal was just a disaster. But let's also talk about the Zack Martin contract. Let's not just point to the ones that in retrospect we didn't like
 

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Even with the injuries Tyron lived up to his contract and then some. He signed an 8 year deal before the 2014 season. During the life of that contract he had 4 All Pro seasons (two 1st team and two 2nd team), 7 pro bowl seasons and was selected to the all decade team. We can only hope the Diggs deal will be as horrible as that one...

The Tank deal was an overpay but hasn't been nearly as horrible as many here portray. One reason we overpaid him was because he had us over a barrel by the time we did the deal. The Zeke deal was just a disaster. But let's also talk about the Zack Martin contract. Let's not just point to the ones that in retrospect we didn't like
We tagged Tank for 2 years in a row before he got that contract.
 

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IMO that’s a strategy we absolutely should follow sometimes. lets say Diggs and Surtain or whomever you think is the top young corner are both free agents and both will cost $20M per year. If you don’t at least consider the outside player as a GM you're an idiot and shouldn’t be working in the NFL if you only consider 1/32 of the players.
I agree to most of the post, but I would add that it shouldn't necessarily just be between Diggs and another top corner. What other impact piece can you get for the money you would have paid Diggs?
 

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I agree to most of the post, but I would add that it shouldn't necessarily just be between Diggs and another top corner. What other impact piece can you get for the money you would have paid Diggs?
Totally agree. If it were up to me I'm definitely signing Diggs but if he were currently a free agent and this were the first week of free agency and we could get a top 3 tech or some other player we think could help the team more I wouldn't have a problem with that. My issue is more when we are giving older guys that are starting the downturn in their career that 2nd big contract not the 1st big one. I'm of the mind set that there is always a player out there to spend your money on. But Diggs is only 24 and already shown to be great at times. He has flaws that give you some pause but IMO the good is so good that it makes me ok with the negative. The ironic thing to me is that Diggs was better in run support last year than ever before. He stepped up on the corner and threw himself into ball carries along the sideline much better than the fist two years but there were of course some glaring exceptions to this. Ideally you want a CB that isn't a liability in run defense, but you'd also be fine with a great WR who can't block for crap. Not everyone WR is going to be Hines Ward and not every CB is going to be a young Ronnie Lott. As long as Diggs can make some game changing plays he will be worth his contract and I don't expect him to stop making impact plays at this age.
 

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I can’t believe I just read a post that said they would rather go with Bland and Scott as the outside cornerbacks next season then sign Diggs. :facepalm: I thought the Dak threads were bad when we signed Andy Dalton.
Yeah....I, too, find myself smdh at some of the posts in here!!
 

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I think we should resign Diggs but he is not a cut and dried top10 CB. There are a lot of issues that get glossed over by his penchant for INTs. No fan should forget the Jaylon Smith-esque whiffs and faux dives to avoid contact. He consistently puts his health above the team, and I question his desire to win. Those 11 INTs he made 2 seasons ago came at great cost as he gambled all season giving up an historic number of yards receiving.

I just hate seeing the team get fleeced and then have less money to spend strengthening other areas. Sign Diggs, but don't get extorted in the process and pay him like the player he is not.
 
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