Disgruntled Adrian Peterson

[Tabascocat]

He changed it but she started out on Camp Nowhere and The Secret World of Alex Mack in 1994 and then Flipper in 1995. So dibs could have been called 20 years ago. But it was me!

exactly right! I want to change it back to the original 20, I would have been around the same age anyways

 

[joseephuss]

Haha I'm just saying, there's this thought that if we trade a 1st rounder for AD, it's basically a waste of a 1st rounder. Getting AD isn't throwing away a 1st rounder for nothing.

I'd like to take the last 10 years and take the guys taken from the 28-32 spots and see what those 50 guys have done in the league and see if the median player in that group is better or worse than what AD could do for us over the next 3 years.

Throw in comparisons to what running backs do after the age of 30.

 

[Stash]

Personally, I would be more hesitant to give up Ron Leary in any trade for Peterson than I would giving up next year's first rounder.

If the Vikings insist on next year's #1? OK, it's a high price, but I can see how it would allow that second rate organization to save face with the masses that they at least got something for Peterson.

But I would rather give up that level of draft pick for 2016 than giving up a current starter / terrific depth player for 2015.

 

[Alexander]

Personally, I would be more hesitant to give up Ron Leary in any trade for Peterson than I would giving up next year's first rounder.

I swear this Peterson thing is making people that normally are rational behave very irrationally.

 

[Stash]

I swear this Peterson thing is making people that normally are rational behave very irrationally.

How so?

 

[Alexander]

How so?

What you are basically saying is that you would rather give up a first round draft pick rather than let go of a player like Ron Leary.

 

[Stash]

What you are basically saying is that you would rather give up a first round draft pick rather than let go of a player like Ron Leary.

No, not entirely. What I'm saying is that I would prefer giving up just a first rounder rather than say a 2nd rounder and Ron Leary. I'd prefer to give up a better pick alone than a lesser draft pick and a quality starter or depth player.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wouldn't give up next years 1st rounder if he signed for free.

That's the old way of doing business in Dallas. I hope we are past that. I am not for trading high picks to get Peterson. That would be unwise IMO.

 

[DallasEast]

What you are basically saying is that you would rather give up a first round draft pick rather than let go of a player like Ron Leary.

I would drop Ron Leary like a hot rock instead of surrendering a future first rounder for Peterson or similar players. We have several options to compensate for a Leary trade at this time, namely Collins and Green. The offensive line would suffer momentary loss of depth and experience but not substantially so in my opinion.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Mungo like

Yeah, but Mungo is a big fan of beans and wearing head gear while still on fire. I'm not sure about this one Jobs..

LOL......

 

[Stash]

I would drop Ron Leary like a hot rock instead of surrendering a future first rounder for Peterson or similar players. We have several options to compensate for a Leary trade at this time, namely Collins and Green. The offensive line would suffer momentary loss of depth and experience but not substantially so in my opinion.

Mine is just the opposite. If I suffer an injury on the offensive line, Ron Leary can help me this year. That higher draft pick may look nice for next year, but it does nothing to help me win now.

If this team is in fact loading up for a run this year, quality players are more important to me than future draft picks.

 

[DallasEast]

Mine is just the opposite. If I suffer an injury on the offensive line, Ron Leary can help me this year. That higher draft pick may look nice for next year, but it does nothing to help me win now.

If this team is in fact loading up for a run this year, quality players are more important to me than future draft picks.

If this were 1992, I would agree with you. In today's NFL, you balance your roster with as many assets as possible against survivable liabilities, ensuring effective longevity, and increasing the odds of winning each season.

 

[Stash]

If this were 1992, I would agree with you. In today's NFL, you balance your roster with as many assets as possible against survivable liabilities, ensuring effective longevity, and increasing the odds of winning each season.

And that's why I will give up next year's #1 for Adrian Peterson. Peterson is the league's best running back and a proven commodity that will help me be better this year.

The 2016 pick is a complete unknown commodity that doesn't help me one bit this year. For all we know, that #1 pick next year could end up being our next running back, but it would take a year of futility and frustration to find out.

If I have the opportunity to fill what I perceive to be this team's biggest weakness with the best in the league? I'm taking it.

Minnesota saves face on some level with their fanbase and the rest of the NFL, Peterson gets what he truly wants, and the Cowboys get the best running back in football to go along with an already-incredible offseason haul.

 

[DallasEast]

And that's why I will give up next year's #1 for Adrian Peterson. Peterson is the league's best running back and a proven commodity that will help me be better this year.

The 2016 pick is a complete unknown commodity that doesn't help me one bit this year. For all we know, that #1 pick next year could end up being our next running back, but it would take a year of futility and frustration to find out.

If I have the opportunity to fill what I perceive to be this team's biggest weakness with the best in the league? I'm taking it.

Minnesota saves face on some level with their fanbase and the rest of the NFL, Peterson gets what he truly wants, and the Cowboys get the best running back in football to go along with an already-incredible offseason haul.

Roll of the dice. Add Peterson, keep Leary and lose next year's first rounder increases potential offensive performance this season and lands you a Lombardi. OR same sit-op rolls you snake eyes, no championship, reduces your chances of hoisting the trophy in February 2017 by erasing your odds of winning with Peterson already on the roster, and a more seasoned Collins and/or Green plugged into the hole opened by Leary's trade, and drafting a potential top talent next April.

Today's NFL is more of a crapshoot than seasons long past. Me? I would better my odds of not rolling snake eyes.

 

[Stash]

Roll of the dice. Add Peterson, keep Leary and lose next year's first rounder increases potential offensive performance this season and lands you a Lombardi. OR same sit-op rolls you snake eyes, no championship, reduces your chances of hoisting the trophy in February 2017 by erasing your odds of winning with Peterson already on the roster, and a more seasoned Collins and/or Green plugged into the hole opened by Leary's trade, and drafting a potential top talent next April.

Today's NFL is more of a crapshoot than seasons long past. Me? I would better my odds of not rolling snake eyes.

Hey, different strokes, no 'right' or 'wrong' answers on this one!

 

[joseephuss]

Peterson is not currently a proven commodity. He missed 15 games in 2014. That was after having a good year in 2013. Some make it seem that Peterson is still in 2012 form, but there is no reason to truly expect that type of great production.

 

[Stash]

Peterson is not currently a proven commodity. He missed 15 games in 2014. That was after having a good year in 2013. Some make it seem that Peterson is still in 2012 form, but there is no reason to truly expect that type of great production.

Conversely then, no reason not to.

 

[joseephuss]

Conversely then, no reason not to.

Actually there is. It is called NFL history. There have been plenty of great running backs that hit a wall at age 30. Backs that didn't miss a whole year of playing or had to go through a major knee injury. I will side with history. The rich history of the NFL and the recent history of Peterson in 2013 being good, but not great. I would expect at best the 2013 version. The 2012 version is a once a career happening.

 

[Stash]

Actually there is. It is called NFL history. There have been plenty of great running backs that hit a wall at age 30. Backs that didn't miss a whole year of playing or had to go through a major knee injury. I will side with history. The rich history of the NFL and the recent history of Peterson in 2013 being good, but not great. I would expect at best the 2013 version. The 2012 version is a once a career happening.

There's also history of the truly special running backs being exceptions to that 'rule'. I see Peterson as certainly exceptional. If you choose not to, that's certainly your prerogative.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

This Adrian Peterson to the Cowboys talks have been beaten more than Adrian's son.

Too Much? Too Soon?