Disturbing statistic

[Flamma]

What are the NFL averages for those 2 stats?

I have no idea. But I'm pretty sure teams trailing going into the 4th win more than 11% of the time. In week 1, teams trailing going into the 4th were 5-11.

 

[Flamma]

So much for the myth of Dak Prescott's prowess at "game winning drives."

What game winning drives? He had one against Pittsburgh last year, or the year before, I forget. Before that you have to go back to 2016.

 

[Rockport]

You said it was meaningless. This is a new season. We'll see. We're not off to a good start. That said, we can't blame Dak for this one.

I said the stats you posted in your OP from previous seasons was meaningless and they are as they have no bearing on what will happen in the future. Different players and different coaches. Now, I’ve explained it twice. It’s funny how you tried to change my argument once you knew I was right.

 

[Rockport]

If you read over the past couple pages Dak gets a pass if the defense sucks. If the defense can't toss shutouts every week Dak and the offense isn't required to put any points on the board.

DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK. You’re obsessed rent free.

 

[Rockport]

I was being extremely sarcastic......

Got owned again I see.

 

[Kwyn]

Ah dude you can try that and yes I'll give you some games that it could affect the defense if they get tired they can break down late in the game but when they come out and give up 20 points in the first half of games and then give up another 14 to 17 in the second half or whatever how these scores are is more on the defense great defenses don't make excuses let me give you an example because I have something going on right now with the Texas Longhorns my college team..

Our defense came out in game one against basically the best team in college football the Ohio State and they only gave up fourteen points all game on the road in game one..

. But the offense only scored seven points you see the problem there our defense held a team all game a better team to fourteen total points for the whole entire game.

Game two Texas Longhorns defense only gave up 7 points and eventually our offense got going and put up 38 points but they didn't need to they could have again only put up 10 points and won that game.....

Game three I'm watching right now we're in the 4th quarter and right now Texas has often struggled all game and finally got to 20 but you know what the defense is giving up three points that means Texas could win this game by scoring one touchdown they are not tired they're not making excuses every game they're playing this exact same way..

If it keeps going like this Texas in three games The average we'll just call it six points.

Know what teams have done this in the past the great teams like the Ravens and the Bears there's been defenses in the NFL that have been given up under 14 points a game the whole entire season that is what great defense looks like great defenses don't say Oh my God our offense isn't scoring enough we're tired and we're giving up no they're not to DeMarcus Lawrence and Tank they're not MR I can't go 100 percent all game..

Making excuses for bad defense we're not talking about horrible defense but if you look back at Mike Nolan's defenses what they were doing on offense before Prescott got hurt in 2020 he was on pace for like a ridiculous amount of yards and points but they still couldn't win the games because the defense never stopped giving up scores....

I just want to be clear on what we're talking about here most of the time our defense has given up a score on every single starting drive I can remember going back for five years if that's where you want to stay they have almost always given up points coming out of halftime almost every game going back five years they're giving up scores in bunches..

I do get it I know where you're coming from there's some games that were close and even though the defense didn't play great if the offense would have scored more we probably win and that would be last week even though the defense did not play great in the first half they played well enough in the 2nd half if the offense could have just scored once or a couple of field goals we win that game..

Overall our failures have been on defense these scores we're talking about were almost all on the defense..

Sometimes we got lucky a couple years back you remember that shootout in Seattle and and we had to almost score on every single possession and we won that game prescott did it but you can't do that that's not fair.

How about the Miami game a couple years back yeah the offense definitely in the first half just didn't really have it going but Prescott in the offense did what they could to give them a 1 point lead with four minutes left and the defense just let them walk down the field and score and we lost that game.. probably in some of these statistics what we're talking about

He did bring them back many times but when it's two to three scores down going into the 4th quarter it's mostly on the defense not all but mostly....

Voice to text?

If so, that explains the length of your posts. You just start talking while you’re driving to Lubbock or whatever and then say “submit”

Had been thinking, Damn, this dude loves to write gigantic comments!

 

[acr731]

DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK, DAK. You’re obsessed rent free.

I'm obsessed???

 

[Flamma]

I said the stats you posted in your OP from previous seasons was meaningless and they are as they have no bearing on what will happen in the future. Different players and different coaches. Now, I’ve explained it twice. It’s funny how you tried to change my argument once you knew I was right.

If I went back 20 years, I'd totally agree with you. Don't act like we're so different in 5 years. It could be just one flaw that caused the lopsided record, like not being able to stop the run. 5 years is still within the range to develop a pattern. Same coach, same QB, a lot is the same. Hopefully that changes.

 

[Rockport]

If I went back 20 years, I'd totally agree with you. Don't act like we're so different in 5 years. It could be just one flaw that caused the lopsided record, like not being able to stop the run. 5 years is still within the range to develop a pattern. Same coach, same QB, a lot is the same. Hopefully that changes.

Totally meaningless. Not the same coaches, not the same players. Meaningless. You’re not going to convince me otherwise. I mean it’s common sense.

 

[Rockport]

I'm obsessed???

Obviously.

 

[CCBoy]

Obviously.

Hint, he's trying to teach you hate...

 

[Wildcat711]

Totally meaningless when it comes to predicting the future. But you’re not able to understand that apparently.

I'm guessing you have never heard of George Gordon Byron..

The bit about history being the best predictor of the future.

 

[Chasing6]

For years this team has been built to be a front runner. One of the best in the league when playing with a lead. One of the worst when playing catch up. I don’t think many will be that surprised by the numbers.

Our defense was built to play with a lead and get after the QB. This was faulty design and we finally have turned the page after trading Micah.

 

[gtb1943]

Funny, he really isn't a cry baby nor disappointed with the play of the sport standing on game merits.

Huge difference in what is communicated.

his posts say otherwise

 

[gtb1943]

I like to see him throw out the insults. It’s entertaining and makes him look bad.

no one hates on posters like you do

 

[JD_KaPow]

This comes from Fish. The Cowboys are 4-33 in the last 5 years trailing going into the 4th quarter.

Since they played 84 games, that would mean they are 45-2 going into the 4th quarter when they are winning. I'm not considering tied going into the 4th quarter. There may be some of them. But either way, that is a ridiculous statistic.

I think I got the math right. I'm also not counting the Eagles loss.

Why is this disturbing? It's right around league average.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I have no idea. But I'm pretty sure teams trailing going into the 4th win more than 11% of the time. In week 1, teams trailing going into the 4th were 5-11.

They win closer to 16% of the time, which, yes, would imply the Cowboys doing slightly better, 6-31 instead of 4-33. But with such small numbers, that's just noise.

 

[Rockport]

I'm guessing you have never heard of George Gordon Byron..

The bit about history being the best predictor of the future.

Not in football.

 

[Rockport]

no one hates on posters like you do

There’s a lot of hater here so my work is never done.

 

[Flamma]

Why is this disturbing? It's right around league average.

It's odd for a team that wins a lot of games. A lot of crap teams are probably getting killed going into the 4th every week. The Cowboys are a competitive team. You'd expect games to be close going into the 4th.

Say league average is 16%. That includes crap teams. What's the average just including teams that won close to 50 games in the last 5 years. I'm thinking it's a lot higher. I believe the Bills, Vikings, Pitt, Chargers, and 49ers did it last week.