Division winner scenarios thread

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Has a tiebreaker ever gone to coin flip

 

[Mannix]

It absolutely does matter if the eagles sweep the giants but lose to the cardinals.

why would that be?

 

[mldardy]

And Dallas lost to AZ and BUFF. Move on to conference record. PHI wins.

 

[viman96]

I don’t think that’s right

Why? What I posted if from nfl.com.

https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures

 

[TheHerd]

So the miami game doesn't really matter?

It does. Philly has to lose one more. But even so, we can only lose one more to either Miami or Detroit. If you guarantee a win over Detroit, the Miami game doesn’t matter.

On the flip side, if we beat Miami, the Detroit game doesn’t “matter”, at least for playoff positioning..

But for this team’s psyche and confidence, every game matters.

 

[gmb1]

If two teams are tied in the division standings, the first tiebreaker is their head-to-head record against each other. From there, if the tied teams have an identical head-to-head record, the next tiebreaker is their divisional record. Following that, the next tiebreaker is their record against common opponents, then conference record

So where are we with the common opponents?

 

[Reality]

If both win out then Dallas wins the NFCE.

I have not checked but I don't think that's true .. Buffalo was a common opponent as well so Dallas added a common opponent loss when they lost that game and Philadelphia just did the same in losing to another common opponent.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Cowboys need Philly to lose one more and win out themselves.

Dallas wins the NFCE if both teams win out.


The 3rd tie breaker is common opponents. Dallas beat both the Jets and Seattle.

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory in all games.
6. Strength of schedule in all games
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

We lost to Arz and Buffalo

 

[loublue22]

And Dallas lost to AZ and BUFF. Move on to conference record. PHI wins.

conference record is also identical if both teams win out

 

[beacamdim]

Giants have to beat Phlly or Philly wins any tie.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I think it’s funny that total points is literally a tiebreaker for division and we had Greg Olsen Dallas should take the foot off the gas against the giants Bc coopr rush threw a pass with ten minutes still left

 

[WillieBeamen]

Cowboys need Philly to lose one more and win out themselves.

We dont need to win out

 

[TheHerd]

Point differential should be the first tie breaker.

Aussie football rules. Total overall point differential is the first toe breaker. Encourages running up scores though!

 

[IceBowler]

So another team doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs? O.O

Man - ever since they went to "Divisional Play", EVERYONE deserves to be in the playoffs. Super Bowl is no indicator of the season's best team. It's the little tournament at the end of the year where the Owners and League make a LOT of cash. The 9-7 SB Champion Giants ring a bell?

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

why would that be?

Because we’d be 13-4 they’d be 12-5

 

[805BoysInBlue]

We lost to Arz and Buffalo

They've lost to the Jets and Seahawks

 

[IceBowler]

Aussie football rules. Total overall point differential is the first toe breaker. Encourages running up scores though!

Yep - as it should be!

 

[805BoysInBlue]

We dont need to win out

You're correct.

 

[superonyx]

Philly still wins due to Strength of Victory.

Assuming each teams wins out, Philly's teams that they beat have won more games
TB has 7 wins to CARs 2 (PHI +5)
KC has 9 wins to SDs 5 (PHI +4)
BUF has 8 wins to NYJs 5 (PHI +3)
SEA has 7 wins to ARZs 3 (DAL +4)
DET has 10 wins to MINs 7 (DAL +3)

Looks like a +5 for Philly...might be missing a game, but with all the common opponents and parity, there won't be a change this late in the season

Does the teams record matter at the end of the season or when you play them for strength of victory?
Also would it help that we are about to play the lions or is that strength of victory only for common opponents.

Bizarre they cant just look at the 2 games we played against each other and add up all points scored by both and the winner is the team who outscored the other.
They have us digging into records of teams like Arizona.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Why? What I posted if from nfl.com.

https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures

Common opponents is tied

Conference is tied

Division is tied

It goes to strength of victory