Division winner scenarios thread

[goshan]

Just confirmed this on ESPN Playoff machine.
1. We both win out. Eagles win the division.
2. If Eagles lose 1 more (Giants or Cardinals), we don't have to win out to win the division. We just have to beat Washington and either Detroit OR Miami.

Someone can double check but this is what I am seeing on the ESPN Playoff Machine.

 

[viman96]

I have not checked but I don't think that's true .. Buffalo was a common opponent as well so Dallas added a common opponent loss when they lost that game and Philadelphia just did the same in losing to another common opponent.

Philly lost to both the Jets and Seattle. If Philly beats AZ then the 4th tie breaker could be interesting. Dallas still has Miami and Detroit, which would really help their case for strength of victory tie breaker.

 

[HungryLion]

If both teams win out. Eagles win division.

If eagles drop one to the giants. Cowboys can lose to either Miami or Detroit, go 2-1 and win the division.

Thats really the most likely scenario
In which the cowboys win the division.

 

[goshan]

Use playoff generator !

If we both win out they seem to get it.

If we both lose one in a lot of scenarios we get it. As long as we don’t lose to wash

This is true.

 

[boysfanperiod]

"strength of victory" is a biased stat and an asinine tiebreaker in an unbalanced schedule, we always get the short end of the stick on that crap

Sorry but what does "strength of victory" mean? Is it how much you won by or the opposing teams' record?

 

[gtdRR]

Crazy that we don't have to win out to win the division if NY beats the EGirls but losing to Detroit could mean losing the 2nd seed as well.

 

[Mannix]

------Realistically, Dallas must overcome a tougher rest-of-season schedule to make up a game in the final three weeks in order to win the NFC East.

Exactly what does this mean? How realistically is it? Still cannot believe that point differential is not one of the first tie breakers....it so obviously shows which team is more balanced...and in theory, better.

 

[pancakeman]

Looks to me like beating the Giants is far more important for the Eagles than beating the Dolphins is for the Cowboys. If both Eagles and Cowboys lose, Cowboys move from about 1 in 3 chance of winning the division to about 2 in 3.
We can be jealous that the Eagles have control of their destiny, but one more slip up by them and they will very likely sink in the seedings, even without a perfect season finish by Dallas.

 

[loublue22]

Sorry but what does "strength of victory" mean? Is it how much you won by or the opposing teams' record?

total wins by the teams you beat

 

[beacamdim]

SF basically a lock for bye, even if they lose to BAL.

 

[Cowboy-33]

This thread is funny. Who’s on first? What? I don’t know … third base !

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Sorry but what does "strength of victory" mean? Is it how much you won by or the opposing teams' record?

It means you shouldn’t lose to teams like ARZ

 

[Silverz1972]

It will go to the fifth tie breaker. Strength if victory. Cowboys have blown a lot if teams away so i think we may win the division if we can win the rest of the games. .

 

[gmb1]

Arizona is probably our last chance.

Well the Giant vs Eagles game is on MNF and the underdogs have flat out won since week 10 so......

 

[WillieBeamen]

Giants have to beat Phlly or Philly wins any tie.

They can lose to the Cardinals too and end up a WC

 

[mldardy]

If the Eagles win out (vs. Giants, vs. Cardinals, at Giants) and the Cowboys win out (at Dolphins, vs. Lions, at Commanders), both teams finish 13-4. They remain deadlocked after first four tiebreakers: head-to-head record, division record, common-game record and conference record.

Eagles would then likely own tiebreaker for strength of victory, although it's not mathematically impossible today for the Cowboys to overtake them.

Realistically, Dallas must overcome a tougher rest-of-season schedule to make up a game in the final three weeks in order to win the NFC East.

Yeah this is what I can't calculate. You would think victories over the Lions and Dolphins would boost our strength of victory while Philly beating the Giants twice and Cards would lower there's. I don't understand strength of victory and how it's calculated.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

That is true unless the game the Eagles lose happens to be the Giants game. At 12-5 the Cowboys would win the division (if the Cowboys happen to beat WAS and one out of DET and MIA.

If the Eagles lose either game to the Giants, we have a cushion. I think it's likely the Eagles lose 2 more games though.

They look defeated...heads down all around

 

[Reality]

Philly lost to both the Jets and Seattle. If Philly beats AZ then the 4th tie breaker could be interesting. Dallas still has Miami and Detroit, which would really help their case for strength of victory tie breaker.

Yeah, but that was my point . SoV is not set yet so it is way too early to say what will happen if both the Cowboys and Eagles win out.

The Cowboys have to figure out how to win on the road as well.

 

[boysfanperiod]

total wins by the teams you beat

Thank you.

 

[goshan]

Looks to me like beating the Giants is far more important for the Eagles than beating the Dolphins is for the Cowboys. If both Eagles and Cowboys lose, Cowboys move from about 1 in 3 chance of winning the division to about 2 in 3.
We can be jealous that the Eagles have control of their destiny, but one more slip up by them and they will very likely sink in the seedings, even without a perfect season finish by Dallas.

If Eagles lose one more, we just have to beat Wash and either Miami or Detroit to win the division. It's very simple.