DMN Blog: Brandon Marshall is no T.O./Thoughts from Mike Shanahan

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1:11 PM Wed, Aug 13, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Broncos media were anxious to quiz the Cowboys players about the Broncos. Apparently, the Denver media has taken to calling receiver Brandon Marshall the "Baby T.O." Needless to say, Adam Jones wasn't having any of that. Here's a back and forth between Jones and a Denver TV reporter.

Q: Adam, physically can you compare Brandon Marshall to T.O.?

A: Nah, he's nowhere near T.O.

Q: Could he be at some point?

A: I don't know.

Q: Just looking at his talent level...

A: He could be a good athlete, but he isn't on T.O.'s level.

Q: Is there anybody else like T.O.?

A: I haven't seen him yet. First of all, T.O. is 10 times faster than Brandon Marshall. He's 10 times stronger than Brandon Marshall. You can sometimes get your hand on B at the line. T.O. has a good thing where he snatches and rips, so I would say he's nowhere near T.O.


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Thoughts from Mike Shanahan
1:25 PM Wed, Aug 13, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Here's a practice transcript from the Broncos coach:

On the morning practice with the Cowboys

"I thought we got some great work in today. I thought both sides were very professional in their approach. We have a little different schemes on both sides of the ball, and it was good work for Dallas and obviously the Broncos. We have a practice this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to that.


"They have a different type of offense and a different type of defense. We get a chance to work against a 3-4 look, and they get a chance to take a look at a four-man front. I thought it was good for both teams. It was a very healthy practice and there was some good, fresh hitting. You go against somebody where you don't know their tendencies, so everybody plays a little bit more honest and it's a good evaluation process for us."

On what he is looking for in terms of improvement

"What you want to do--when you're taking a look at your OTAs, when you're taking a look at your summer camp--you want to find your best 53 guys that can play. You want to get better as a scheme offensively, defensively and special teams. This is a little bit different here. Normally that third week of practice you get tired of hitting against each other. This is a good changeup for both teams where you get a chance to go against different schemes and different people. I thought it was good for both squads."

On the timing of practicing against the Cowboys

"Normally the first couple of weeks (of training camp) you want to install your offense and defense. To go against a team too early would kind of take away what you are trying to put in as your basic fundamentals to installing your offense, defense and special teams. Usually it's better (before your second preseason game) because you have all of that installation in, you have a preseason (game) under your belt, you know who you want to evaluate and you get a chance to do it against different people."

On why he wanted to practice with the Cowboys

"You change it up. We went there last year. Obviously they are playing at our facility, so they are going to come here. We will probably do the same thing next year if we play the Cowboys in preseason."

On signing CB Tyrone Poole

"We brought in a couple of corners (Poole and CB Wale Dada) that we thought would give us more depth at that position, guys that we feel have more of a chance to make our football team. Sometimes you make changes after a game based on how they play. We didn't feel like either of those players (CB Lamont Reid and CB Christian Morton) could make our football team, so we went in a different direction and brought some guys in that we thought could compete for possibly making our squad."

On LB Niko Koutouvides

"He has been playing with the first team and second team throughout camp. We have some competition there (at middle linebacker), and we will find out at the end of camp who steps up and who is our starter. We have two guys (Koutouvides and LB Nate Webster) that are practicing extremely well and we want to give both guys a chance to practice and play with the first team unit. Part of the evaluation process is how they play in practice and how thy play here in the games, so we will have a chance to do both."

On seeing WR Brandon Marshall match up against another team in practice

"I don't know if he picks (his play) up any more. Brandon has been doing this throughout camp. I think you get a chance to see him against different people and obviously a very good football team in the Cowboys. It's always nice to see a guy step up and make some plays like he did."

On whether the intensity level picks up while practicing against another team

"Naturally it does--players and coaches. You want to perform in front of your peers, you want to practice well, you want to play well and at the same time we want to evaluate a lot of people. We have a chance to do it all today."

On why undrafted running backs get a chance to compete with the Broncos

"To be honest with you, they take advantage of an opportunity. (RB) Selvin Young was obviously injured at Texas but he came in here, stayed healthy and took advantage of an opportunity. Any time you get a scholarship and are averaging about five-and-a-half to six yards per carry at Texas, you know you have a big upside and he is taking advantage of that opportunity here."

On RB Selvin Young's potential this year

"Well he guaranteed 2,000 (yards) I think, so he is going to be much better. We have a long way to go though."
 

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Pacman needs to shut his mouth.

Between this and the "That's gonna be a TD if y'all do that on Saturday, y'all!" on a punt return in practice today -- besides Cutler completing a bunch of passes on him today and San Diego handing his *** to him Saturday -- he should remember that he's not even in the league yet.

But lemme guess, this brash talk will get praised by most... Unlike if, say, Patrick Crayton had said the exact same thing.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2190811 said:
Pacman needs to shut his mouth.

Between this and the "That's gonna be a TD if y'all do that on Saturday, y'all!" on a punt return in practice today -- besides Cutler completing a bunch of passes on him today and San Diego handing his *** to him Saturday -- he should remember that he's not even in the league yet.

But lemme guess, this brash talk will get praised by most... Unlike if, say, Patrick Crayton had said the exact same thing.


Well, to be fair, he's not talking up himself, but one of his teammates. And he's probably right.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2190811 said:
Pacman needs to shut his mouth.

Between this and the "That's gonna be a TD if y'all do that on Saturday, y'all!" on a punt return in practice today -- besides Cutler completing a bunch of passes on him today and San Diego handing his *** to him Saturday -- he should remember that he's not even in the league yet.

But lemme guess, this brash talk will get praised by most... Unlike if, say, Patrick Crayton had said the exact same thing.
go cheer for the Patriots if you don't want your players to talk.
 

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cowboys2233;2190824 said:
Well, to be fair, he's not talking up himself, but one of his teammates. And he's probably right.

He may be right -- and isn't Mashall suspended anyway? -- but you don't have to say it the way he said it. Ten times faster, ten times stronger, blah blah blah... Why not just say that TO is great, I go against him in practice every day, and I'm not sure anyone is as good as he is? Something like that would be fine.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2190811 said:
Pacman needs to shut his mouth.

Between this and the "That's gonna be a TD if y'all do that on Saturday, y'all!" on a punt return in practice today -- besides Cutler completing a bunch of passes on him today and San Diego handing his *** to him Saturday -- he should remember that he's not even in the league yet.

But lemme guess, this brash talk will get praised by most... Unlike if, say, Patrick Crayton had said the exact same thing.


I second. You know my opinion of the guy though so, really I am beating a dead horse!

The guys biggest impact this season will be as a punt returner. I kind of hope he is the 4th corner and judging from what I saw from scandrick the other night I hope he fights him off for awhile.
 

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Rampage;2190831 said:
go cheer for the Patriots if you don't want your players to talk.

You say that as if running your mouth and trash talking is the right thing to do while shutting your mouth and just playing ball is somehow wrong.

Just play ball - old school - let your actions speak for themselves. Didn't they say that Marshall beat him a couple of times?:laugh2: :laugh2:

What an idiot!

And for that matter, he has the nerve to say something about Denvers coverage after our display lat week!
 

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Wasn't it Jason Garrett that told the players to play with a swagger? Didn't he encourage them to play like Romo, Witten and TO? :eek:
 

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aikemirv;2190856 said:
You say that as if running your mouth and trash talking is the right thing to do while shutting your mouth and just playing ball is somehow wrong.

Just play ball - old school - let your actions speak for themselves. Didn't they say that Marshall beat him a couple of times?:laugh2: :laugh2:

What an idiot!

And for that matter, he has the nerve to say something about Denvers coverage after our display lat week!


You act like its such a big deal who gives a ****. He thinks TO is 10 times better than Brandon Marshall, which is true.
 

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dre1614;2190878 said:
You act like its such a big deal who gives a ****. He thinks TO is 10 times better than Brandon Marshall, which is true.

Actually it was the poster that acted like it was some big deal because someone did not like trash talking!!!

the quote was "why don't you go root for the PAtriots"

If TO is 10 times the WR Marshall is then Pac should be able to easily cover him!!!
 

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Chocolate Lab;2190811 said:
Pacman needs to shut his mouth.

Between this and the "That's gonna be a TD if y'all do that on Saturday, y'all!" on a punt return in practice today -- besides Cutler completing a bunch of passes on him today and San Diego handing his *** to him Saturday -- he should remember that he's not even in the league yet.

But lemme guess, this brash talk will get praised by most... Unlike if, say, Patrick Crayton had said the exact same thing.
You need to shut up. You sound like a whining grouch. He was asked questions and he answered them. It's not like he just came out and said it with no one asking him. If you get bent out of shape over stuff like this then I would hate to know what the rest of your life is like. Who cares about what Pacman said. Worry about what Pacman is going to do on the field for us this year.
 

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aikemirv;2190885 said:
Actually it was the poster that acted like it was some big deal because someone did not like trash talking!!!

the quote was "why don't you go root for the PAtriots"

If TO is 10 times the WR Marshall is then Pac should be able to easily cover him!!!

Its practice. Champ Bailey got owned in last years practice.............
 

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bootsy;2190886 said:
You need to shut up. You sound like a whining grouch. He was asked questions and he answered them. It's not like he just came out and said it with no one asking him. If you get bent out of shape over stuff like this then I would hate to know what the rest of your life is like. Who cares about what Pacman said. Worry about what Pacman is going to do on the field for us this year.

How about this:

Cutler had no problems throwing Adam Jones' direction. Darrell Jackson caught a pass right in front of Jones, who was playing off Jackson at the time.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124391


1. Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler was confusing some of the Cowboys' secondary players with some shoulder fakes during 11-on-11. Adam Jones bit on one fake on a completion.

Since it is just preseason I will laugh out loud if MArshall owns Pac Saturday night. Maybe it will teach him to shut his mouth. Just in case Pac was sleeping last year on Sundays or out in the clubs Marshall caught 102 passes for 1325 yards and 7 TD's

Oh Wait theres more:

* Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall did have a nice long reception from quarterback Jay Cutler against Adam Jones in one drill as well.


http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124405

Like I said - just shut up and play!!!
 

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bootsy;2190886 said:
You need to shut up. You sound like a whining grouch. He was asked questions and he answered them. It's not like he just came out and said it with no one asking him. If you get bent out of shape over stuff like this then I would hate to know what the rest of your life is like. Who cares about what Pacman said. Worry about what Pacman is going to do on the field for us this year.

I see that you are new here.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2190833 said:
He may be right -- and isn't Mashall suspended anyway? -- but you don't have to say it the way he said it. Ten times faster, ten times stronger, blah blah blah... Why not just say that TO is great, I go against him in practice every day, and I'm not sure anyone is as good as he is? Something like that would be fine.

Eh, we don't play the Broncos in the regular season for like another three or four years (most likely) -- I doubt this is going to have much of an impact.

If he was all humble when talking up his teammates, he wouldn't be Pacman.

Wakka wakka.
 

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aikemirv;2190889 said:
How about this:

Cutler had no problems throwing Adam Jones' direction. Darrell Jackson caught a pass right in front of Jones, who was playing off Jackson at the time.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124391


1. Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler was confusing some of the Cowboys' secondary players with some shoulder fakes during 11-on-11. Adam Jones bit on one fake on a completion.

Since it is just preseason I will laugh out loud if MArshall owns Pac Saturday night. Maybe it will teach him to shut his mouth. Just in case Pac was sleeping last year on Sundays or out in the clubs Marshall caught 102 passes for 1325 yards and 7 TD's

Yes because we all know practice and preseason games are where it counts. Anybody who takes practice and preseason and is worried about what a player did in them is a freaking tool to the nth degree. Obviously you fit in that category.

Also Marshall got suspended 3 games this season so while Marshall is out making up stories of how he got injured and slipping on McDonald's bags the first 3 weeks of the season, Pacman will actually be playing in meaningful games where we can really judge him instead of some lame practice or preseason game.
 

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cowboys2233;2190895 said:
Eh, we don't play the Broncos in the regular season for like another three or four years (most likely) -- I doubt this is going to have much of an impact.

If he was all humble when talking up his teammates, he wouldn't be Pacman.

Wakka wakka.

we play them next year in denver genius. I thought you knew everything?

Guess Not.
 

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aikemirv;2190856 said:
You say that as if running your mouth and trash talking is the right thing to do while shutting your mouth and just playing ball is somehow wrong.

Just play ball - old school - let your actions speak for themselves. Didn't they say that Marshall beat him a couple of times?:laugh2: :laugh2:

What an idiot!

And for that matter, he has the nerve to say something about Denvers coverage after our display lat week!
i'm just saying the pats are the only team who really doesn't talk any junk. every other team does it. maybe if the head coach would tell em to stop talking trash they would listen. it's not right or wrong. holy cow! a wr beat a cb a few times in practice!:eek: shocking!
 

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Yes because we all know practice and preseason games are where it counts. Anybody who takes practice and preseason and is worried about what a player did in them is a freaking tool to the nth degree. Obviously you fit in that category.

Oh, I am not worried about Pacman. He is not starting right now anyway. But only a fool would badmouth a player that just owned him on the practice field.

What does that make him then?:laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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bootsy;2190896 said:
Yes because we all know practice and preseason games are where it counts. Anybody who takes practice and preseason and is worried about what a player did in them is a freaking tool to the nth degree

...said the fan of the team who was getting their rears kicked. :laugh2:
 
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