DMN Blog: Cowboys could make room for Matt Jones

[Stash]

Three words... great white hype.



I'm white by the way, so I can say that.

So what snappy term would you use for Alvin Harper?

A guy who was drafted 12th overall in the first round when Dallas took him?

 

[Kilyin]

So what snappy term would you use for Alvin Harper?

A guy who was drafted 12th overall in the first round when Dallas took him?

Isn't that already overdone? Matt Jones ain't Alvin Harper, and even if he was, he doesn't have a Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman, or Emmitt Smith.

 

[Stash]

Isn't that already overdone? Matt Jones ain't Alvin Harper, and even if he was, he doesn't have a Michael Irvin or Emmitt Smith.

Is it?

When the misinformed make foolish comments, they need a dose of reality to set them straight.

No, Matt Jones is no Alvin Harper, his numbers say he's better.

Better despite not having played receiver in college like Harper did.

Better despite not playing with the Hall of Famers Harper did.

Terrell Owens might not be Irvin, but he's a great receiver in his own right.

And Barber might not be Emmitt, but would you say he was 'bad'?

And don't forget Witten is a better TE than Novacek was.

 

[Kilyin]

Finally, the main reason you're never going to see Matt Jones in Dallas is because Jerry isn't going to go out and get him. Despite popular belief, he wouldn't sniff a spot on the roster at wideout. Jerry feels the team has plenty of depth at the position or he'd have gone out and gotten someone by now.

 

[Stash]

Finally, the main reason you're never going to see Matt Jones in Dallas is because Jerry isn't going to go out and get him. Despite popular belief, he wouldn't sniff a spot on the roster at wideout. Jerry feels the team has plenty of depth at the position or he'd gone out and gotten someone by now. It could still happen but best believe he'll be more high profile than Matt Jones.

You keep dreaming that dream, and I'll deal in wide receivers that the team actually has a chance of getting.

And when your case against the guy fails miserably, resort to the "it doesn't matter anyway' routine......

 

[Kilyin]

Is it?

When the misinformed make foolish comments, they need a dose of reality to set them straight.

No, Matt Jones is no Alvin Harper, his numbers say he's better.

How can you say Matt Jones is anything close to an Alvin Harper? Let's compare playoff and Superbowl stats.

 

[Kilyin]

You keep dreaming that dream, and I'll deal in wide receivers that the team actually has a chance of getting.

And when your case against the guy fails miserably, resort to the "it doesn't matter anyway' routine......

Nah, I'll eat crow if it happens. Will you when it doesn't?

 

[Stash]

How can you say Matt Jones is anything close to an Alvin Harper? Let's compare playoff and Superbowl stats.

Reality bears it out!

Take 5 minutes, go to NFL.com, and pull up each guy's numbers for their first three years in the league.

You'll find that Jones has more catches, Harper has more yardage, and Jones has more touchdowns.

Then come back and tell me what you've learned tonight.

 

[Stash]

Nah, I'll eat crow if it happens. Will you when it doesn't?

I'll eat whatever 'crow' makes anyone happy.

I had an idea and gave it a shot.

It would be disappointing if they didn't get another option at receiver more than anything.

I can handle getting ribbed on the internet.

 

[Kilyin]

Reality bears it out!

Take 5 minutes, go to NFL.com, and pull up each guy's numbers for their first three years in the league.

You'll find that Jones has more catches, Harper has more yardage, and Jones has more touchdowns.

Then come back and tell me what you've learned out tonight.

Regular season stats don't mean much to me, especially when it comes to 3rd and 4th string receivers.. 13-3?

 

[Stash]

Regular season stats don't mean much to me. 13-3?

Sorry, those count.

Guess you really hate Patrick Crayton then, huh?

 

[Kilyin]

Guess you really hate Patrick Crayton then, huh?

Wouldn't call it hate.. more of a disappointment. Talk the talk, walk the walk..

 

[Stash]

Wouldn't call it hate.. more of a disappointment. Talk the talk, walk the walk..

Same here.

For reference,

Crayton's postseason stats:

6 catches 69 yards 1 touchdown

Matt Jones' postseason stats:

9 catches 141 yards 1 touchdown

Both played in two career postseason games

See that? You still like Matt Jones better than you do Crayton!

 

[Kilyin]

Same here.

For reference,

Crayton's postseason stats:

6 catches 69 yards 1 touchdown

Matt Jones' postseason stats:

9 catches 141 yards 1 touchdown

Both played in two career postseason games

See that? You still like Matt Jones better than you do Crayton!

Postseason stats don't matter unless you win. You'll catch on as we go along.

What were Jim Kelly and Dan Marino's stats?

 

[sago1]

Matt Jones has lot of measurable talent which should indicate he has legit #2 WR potential but it's alleged his problems in Jax are caused by a lousy work ethic/motivation. Also supposedly he's got no passion for the game, would rather play pickup basketball, doesn't like to get hit & still harbors desire to play QB. He also may have tissue injury problems (what's that mean?) but despite all this talk, he remains popular with his teammates.

Jerry should use his extensive Arkansas contacts to check this guy out before even thinking of bringing him in for a talk/look. Would also like to know what WR coach Ray Sherman thinks of this guy after checking out his game film. If Jerry gets enough positive feedback, then bring him in. We've got too many questions at WR not to take a look at him even though it obvious Jax drafted him way too high. Besides Matt Jones stats in his first 2 years are pretty good for a QB turned WR, but admit the high number of passes to him vs number of actually catches is offsitting. But is that due to lack of motivation, transition from QB to WR, poor QB play and/or inadequate WR coaching. In a profile on him before he was drafted, there was a phrase that went something like "if his OC can get it out of him" ..... If we are going to bring him in, he should be sooner rather then later to give him time to learn the playbook & Sherman to work with him. I do realize that Sherman seems high on Austin & feels Stanback will contribute this year so what Sherman has to say on this kid would be worth while listening too.

 

[Stash]

Postseason stats don't matter unless you win. You'll catch on as we go along.

What were Jim Kelly and Dan Marino's stats?

First thing you tried was they're the 'only thing' that mattered, and that regular season stats didn't. Now postseason stats don't matter either?

Gotcha.

This is a lot of double-talk nonsense.

Do your parents know you're up this late?

 

[Kilyin]

First thing you tried was they're the 'only thing' that mattered, and that regular season stats didn't. Now postseason stats don't matter either?

Gotcha.

This is a lot of double-talk nonsense.

Do your parents know you're up this late?

Superbowls, I qualified my argument with that word long ago. Patrick Crayton and Matt Jones are both nobodies and 6 or 7 catches in a couple playoff losses doesn't impress me.

 

[Stash]

Matt Jones has lot of measurable talent which should indicate he has legit #2 WR potential but it's alleged his problems in Jax are caused by a lousy work ethic/motivation. Also supposedly he's got no passion for the game, would rather play pickup basketball, doesn't like to get hit & still harbors desire to play QB. He also may have tissue injury problems (what's that mean?) but despite all this talk, he remains popular with his teammates.

Also keep in mind that - despite these criticisms, Jones has put up good numbers in Jacksonville. Not great numbers, good ones. And that with no other serious receiving threats on the field. What could he do in an offense with the weapons Dallas has?

Jerry should use his extensive Arkansas contacts to check this guy out before even thinking of bringing him in for a talk/look. Would also like to know what WR coach Ray Sherman thinks of this guy after checking out his game film. If Jerry gets enough positive feedback, then bring him in. We've got too many questions at WR not to take a look at him even though it obvious Jax drafted him way too high. Besides Matt Jones stats in his first 2 years are pretty good for a QB turned WR, but admit the high number of passes to him vs number of actually catches is offsitting. But is that due to lack of motivation, transition from QB to WR, poor QB play and/or inadequate WR coaching. In a profile on him before he was drafted, there was a phrase that went something like "if his OC can get it out of him" ..... If we are going to bring him in, he should be sooner rather then later to give him time to learn the playbook & Sherman to work with him. I do realize that Sherman seems high on Austin & feels Stanback will contribute this year so what Sherman has to say on this kid would be worth while listening too.

When researching his catch % numbers I saw that in 2006 his number was 54%, 1% below Terrell Owens at 55%, and above Plaxico Burress' who was at 52% I think (I know it was below) and several other 'name' receivers.

I think Sherman and Garret could work wonders with a guy of Jones' talent.

 

[Stash]

Superbowls, I qualified my argument with that word long ago. Patrick Crayton and Matt Jones are both nobodies and 6 or 7 catches in a couple playoff losses doesn't impress me.

Doesn't really matter what 'impresses' you because the criteria is pure nonsense.

You see what you want to see and don't let reality get in your way.

Now go to sleep and let the adults talk.

 

[Kilyin]

Doesn't really matter what 'impresses' you because the criteria is pure nonsense.

You see what you want to see and don't let reality get in your way.

Now go to sleep and let the adults talk.

So winning championships isn't good criteria now? Maybe it's you that needs a nap.

Reality is going to set in pretty soon. Matt Jones will be a special teamer playing at the number 3 or 4 spot (wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing TE), but not for the Cowboys.