DMN Blog: Cowboys could make room for Matt Jones

[dbair1967]

Is it?

When the misinformed make foolish comments,

you mean just liek this really stupid one below?

No, Matt Jones is no Alvin Harper, his numbers say he's better.

again they arnt even close...and there's not a GM in this league who would say Matt Jones is anywhere near the player in Jax that Alvin Harper was in Dallas...

Better despite not having played receiver in college like Harper did.

dude, you are really embarrassing yourself bigtime...Jones will never, ever remotely scare defenses the way Harper did...nor will he ever approach Harper's yds per catch numbers, which were sensational

Better despite not playing with the Hall of Famers Harper did.

amazing...just amazing...where do you get this assinine idea?

David

 

[Stash]

you mean just liek this really stupid one below?

I know you hate the fact that it's true, but you need to deal with reality. I didn't make it up, it's fact. But you keep vainly trying to justify why the guy with better numbers "just sucks".

again they arnt even close...and there's not a GM in this league who would say Matt Jones is anywhere near the player in Jax that Alvin Harper was in Dallas...

I think the guy in Tampa who overpaid for him would. Since you're so sure, maybe you should conduct a private poll and get back to me, OK?

dude, you are really embarrassing yourself bigtime...Jones will never, ever remotely scare defenses the way Harper did...nor will he ever approach Harper's yds per catch numbers, which were sensational

No, I'm embarrassing you. You've brought a knife to a gunfight. I've got facts backing up what I'm saying. You've brought nothing but your preconceived opinions.

amazing...just amazing...where do you get this assinine idea?

What part don't you understand?

Harper played with three of the NFL's all-time best players, do you see anyone on Jacksonville's roster that Jones plays alongside resembling any of them?

 

[dogberry]

Stash, I've mentioned it before, but Campo is a source the Cowboys can use to evaluate Matt Jones.

If the money weren't an issue, whats the chance that Tony would play golf instead of football and Terrell would play basketball?

 

[Kilyin]

Alvin Harper was a number 2 receiver on a team that won back to back Superbowls. Matt Jones is an unproven commodity on a Jacksonville team that not only has absolutely no one to throw the ball to or anyone worth spitting on throwing it, but will probably be leaving Jacksonville soon because they can't win or sell tickets.

You say Harper succeeded because of his supporting cast... but that's the name of the game.

Did you watch Harper play or are you too young to remember that?

 

[juck]

I hope we get him,he will have to earn it,why not,Jones has things that u cannot teach like height and speed and good hands.

 

[Stash]

Alvin Harper was a number 2 receiver on a team that won back to back Superbowls. Matt Jones is an unproven commodity on a Jacksonville team that not only has absolutely no one to throw the ball to or anyone worth spitting on throwing it, but will probably be leaving Jacksonville soon because they can't win or sell tickets.

Randy Moss has never won a Super Bowl, TO hasn't either does he suck too then? I mean by your definition anyway? Just so I can set the boundaries on your argument for the future.

You say Harper succeeded because of his supporting cast... but that's the name of the game.

And why wouldn't Jones - a guy who put up better numbers than Harper did without the same talent level around him - not put up even better numbers on this Cowboys team?

I mean just so I understand your double-standard here.....

Did you watch Harper play or are you too young to remember that?

I watched him play plenty.

I know what he was, and I know what he wasn't.

And I know he seems to get a free pass around here while Jones gets thrown under the bus when the reality is Jones outperformed him.

 

[Stash]

I don't remember seeing your stance on this:

Pro?

Con?

or

Meh?

 

[Kilyin]

Randy Moss has never won a Super Bowl, TO hasn't either does he suck too then? I mean by your definition anyway? Just so I can set the boundaries on your argument for the future..

Now you're comparing Matt Jones to TO and Randy Moss? You really are a funny guy.

TO played hurt in a Superbowl and he wasn't the one yakking on the field.

You use regular season stats to justify your argument that Matt Jones was better than Alvin Harper. You use one playoff game to compare Matt Jones to Patrick Crayton (Crayton is also better than Matt Jones, and that isn't saying much). Maybe it's you that needs to explain the 'rules', since you seem to be the only one playing by them.

 

[bbgun]

I don't remember seeing your stance on this:

Pro?

Con?

or

Meh?

Honestly, I don't know enough about Jones to give a damn, but I don't understand why a non-Cowboy would attract so much attention ... and anger. You're also really underselling Harper's days in Dallas, basically insinuating that he was a product of the system or a beneficiary of the talent that surrounded him. If that's all it took, Kevin Williams should have had no trouble putting up similar numbers. Whoops.

If we sign Jones, I wish him all the best. But you needn't denigrate Harper in the process.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

So winning championships isn't good criteria now? Maybe it's you that needs a nap.

Reality is going to set in pretty soon. Matt Jones will be a special teamer playing at the number 3 or 4 spot (wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing TE), but not for the Cowboys.

I don't think winning championships isn't a good think to base players careers off of. Look at Dan Marino considered the best QB of All-Time. Now see Terry Bradshaw 4 super bowl rings but isn't considered the best.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Now you're comparing Matt Jones to TO and Randy Moss? You really are a funny guy.

TO played hurt in a Superbowl and he wasn't the one yakking on the field.

You use regular season stats to justify your argument that Matt Jones was better than Alvin Harper. You use one playoff game to compare Matt Jones to Patrick Crayton (Crayton is also better than Matt Jones, and that isn't saying much). Maybe it's you that needs to explain the 'rules', since you seem to be the only one playing by them.

Actually he was saying that his 1st 3 season he shouldn't be considered a bust. Then you say postseason and superbowls only matter so he compared Crayton and Jones since it was stated that 1 he couldn't beat out Crayton 2 you wanted post season stats since the regulars since stats throughout their 1st 3 years didn't matter.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Ummm, yea I'd take 400 yards and 4 TDs this year form a #4 WR.

He got that while being forcefed the ball for 3 years on a team that was dying for playmakers.

If he couldnt get up when he was the projected number one target for a superbowl calibur team, why would he step up being our 4/5 WR and like 7/8th option?

P.S. can he run down kicks?

 

[Kilyin]

I shouldn't have brought Superbowl wins into the discussion since we're talking about Matt Jones. We can take it down a notch to Superbowl 'appearances'.

 

[Kilyin]

Actually he was saying that his 1st 3 season he shouldn't be considered a bust. Then you say postseason and superbowls only matter so he compared Crayton and Jones since it was stated that 1 he couldn't beat out Crayton 2 you wanted post season stats since the regulars since stats throughout their 1st 3 years didn't matter.

Who said he was a 'bust'? You're the only one that's said that word. I said he isn't going to play WR for this team.

If the braintrust brings in another WR, it'll be someone more high profile than a Matt Jones.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Who said he was a 'bust'? You're the only one that's said that word. I said he isn't going to play WR for this team.

If the braintrust brings in another WR, it'll be someone more high profile than a Matt Jones.

the article said it along with numerous other ppl on these boards.

He got that while being forcefed the ball for 3 years on a team that was dying for playmakers.

If he couldnt get up when he was the projected number one target for a superbowl calibur team, why would he step up being our 4/5 WR and like 7/8th option?

P.S. can he run down kicks?

where are you get this information from because I've never seen/ heard Matt Jones projected or projecting to be a number 1 WR for the jags nor was he being force fed the ball.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well, there is really no reason not to try Matt out. Say what you want about his past, but we cant really say any of our scrubs (with little to no experience) are any better at this point.

Sure you can look in silver and blue glasses, say what those guys could/might/would do, but really noone has a clue. At least Matt has done something in an NFL game, unlike the our current cast of scrubs.

And there is also that possiblity that he might turn the corner with all the athletic talent he has.......I mean if you think that someone like Miles can, I don't understand how you can possiblity say Matt can't....maybe you have a crystal ball. Just cause Miles is a current Cowboy doesn't mean he has anymore of a chance to turn that corner, maybe this thought exists cause you haven't seen enough of how much Miles (or insert name here) sucks.

Bring him in, if he sucks, cut him. Pretty simple really.

 

[dooomsday]

Doesn't really matter what 'impresses' you because the criteria is pure nonsense.

You see what you want to see and don't let reality get in your way.

Now go to sleep and let the adults talk.

Hey stash. I see youre making friends.

This is my take. No offense, but you're comparing apples to Crayton. They came into the league very differently. One a monster combine star chosen in the first, the other an after thought 7th with return skills.

Since then they have gone in opposite directions. Crayton takes advantage of his limited skills and has improved every year. Jones was given every opportunity in the world to succeed and actually went backwards last year.

That being said I also recognize Pats limitations. And Jones still has a higher ceiling. I'd have him to compete in a heart beat. But I wouldnt wait for him to become they guy they hoped he'd be. He doesnt use his speed well at all. Really amounts to a McCaffery type possession WR, not a field stretcher. He hasnt had more than one 40 yard pass play a year in his career. Actually Pat has more 40+ yard plays than Matt.

His size and speed wouldnt hurt. He is NO Alvin Harper. He just uses his height. AH could run routes in circles around him- especially down field.

And they thought so highly in Jax they brought in Williamson and Porter? LOL. Thats desperate. C'mon dude. Everyone they bring in jumps ahead of him. There is a reason.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Maybe karma will pay us back for Jimmy Smith and he'll be a stud for us.

Honestly, if we picked him up off the waiver wire, signed him as a free agemt, or even traded a low pick for him, he's got a lot of tools and could be a steal. if he sucks, we cut him. You have to take chances in this league and no one takes chances like Jerry Jones.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

6-6, 238 pounds, 25 years old, 4.37 40-yard dash and a 39.5-inch vertical leap.

Matt's measurables are impressive. I wouldn't be against Dallas bringing him in for a look-see; and I don't see why so many on here are so hell-bent against it-especially if it costs Jerry nothing!

 

[Nors]

Madness -

Lets go get Roy Williams, and now this?

we have Miles Austin and Isiah