DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM

ScipioCowboy;2996516 said:
So 3 Super Bowl victories in the mid 90s provide adequate justification for the mediocrity in which this organization is now mired and for 12 consecutive years without a playoff win?

Regardless of Jerry's role in the early and mid 90s -- regardless of whether we credit him for all or part of the success -- the NFL is subject to constant change. Either an organization is capable of adjusting to new paradigms as they present themselves, or it fails.

And Jerry has failed...repeatedly.

I'm amused by those who defend Jerry on the basis of his prodigious success 15 years ago; a distance legacy of excellence didn't save Tom Landry his job.

Jerry held Landry accountability for the team's current failings. It's a pity Jerry can't hold himself to the same level of accountability.

its just amazing after 12 years and multiple coaches they still cant win...and the one constant figure throughout it all is the GM/Owner... How much longer will it take for the GM/Owner to relize he may not be the BEST MAN FOR THE JOB.

Al Davis and the Raiders or embarrassing to NFL, It sure looks and feels like the Cowboys are on the same road as the Raiders and Bengals...


lets all hope for better days.....
 
Jerry Jones loves Cowboy fans.

Jerry Jones loves making money.

Jerry Jones loves winning.

Jerry Jones loves the Dallas Cowboys.


All true, but what even the most thirstiest Jerry Jones kool-aid drinkers have to start admitting is that more than anything Jerry Jones loves Jerry Jones. Everything else falls short of his affection of himself. He will and has sacrificed winning for 12 years due to this love affair.
 
SilverStarCowboy;2996509 said:
Whao wait a minute stop....I can't read on....EARLY SUCCESS EARLY!!!! THAT WAS 12 freaking a' YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ONLY time he EVER had sucess was with the team Jimmy Johnson led. Jerry wasn't leading anything, that was the house that Jimmy built.

Don't confuse them with facts. They've been clinging to Jimmy's success for 15 years now.
 
SilverStarCowboy;2996509 said:
Whao wait a minute stop....I can't read on....EARLY SUCCESS EARLY!!!! THAT WAS 12 freaking a' YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ONLY time he EVER had sucess was with the team Jimmy Johnson led. Jerry wasn't leading anything, that was the house that Jimmy built.

True, but wasn't it something like 15 years from the previous Cowboys' SB victory to the first one that occurred in the Jones' era?
 
Bach;2996572 said:
Don't confuse them with facts. They've been clinging to Jimmy's success for 15 years now.

Gosh I could have sworn it was Jerry who bought the team and hired Johnson. I also could swear when Jerry bought the team he said he would be involved with everything from the Jocks to the socks from day 1. I have never taken credit from the job Jimmy did in Dallas nor have I ever claimed Jerry has not made mistakes since he has owned this team hell even Jerry has admitted making mistakes along the way and has implemented changes over the years.
 
Smith22;2995982 said:
If I remember correctly, that team had Emmitt Smith, and he did not play those 1st two games. Slightly different situation........

You would think he could acknowledge that.

Instead he decides to insult our intelligence. And there are some that are just fine with that.
 
SultanOfSix;2996582 said:
True, but wasn't it something like 15 years from the previous Cowboys' SB victory to the first one that occurred in the Jones' era?


Yeah but at least Dallas made the play-offs like every single year and the Championship game and SuperBowl several times in that spance.

12 years without a play-off win certainly did not happen. The Fan base was far more riled even though we made the Play-Offs and won several times in the Post Season during that period.


Now we just sit idle and content as our Dallas Cowboys football life passes us by like a thief in the nite.
 
Doomsday101;2996589 said:
Gosh I could have sworn it was Jerry who bought the team and hired Johnson. I also could swear when Jerry bought the team he said he would be involved with everything from the Jocks to the socks from day 1. I have never taken credit from the job Jimmy did in Dallas nor have I ever claimed Jerry has not made mistakes since he has owned this team hell even Jerry has admitted making mistakes along the way and has implemented changes over the years.

The mistakes he's "admitted" and the "changes" he has made are inconsequential to the one mistake he still needs to admit and the change he needs to implement: himself as the GM.
 
Doomsday101;2996589 said:
Gosh I could have sworn it was Jerry who bought the team and hired Johnson. I also could swear when Jerry bought the team he said he would be involved with everything from the Jocks to the socks from day 1. I have never taken credit from the job Jimmy did in Dallas nor have I ever claimed Jerry has not made mistakes since he has owned this team hell even Jerry has admitted making mistakes along the way and has implemented changes over the years.

Gosh I could have sworn it was Jimmy who hired all of his own staff.
I could have sworn it was Jimmy making the selections on draft day while Jerry told him to look like he was talking to him while the cameras were on in the draft room.
Jerry bought the team and hired his college teammate. If Jerry had hired Switzer or Holtz in '89 instead of Jimmy we'd still be looking at the '70's as the "glory days".
 
Alexander;2996601 said:
The mistakes he's "admitted" and the "changes" he has made are inconsequential to the one mistake he still needs to admit and the change he needs to implement: himself as the GM.


Bingo! Not to mention that much of the "changes" he made when he hired Parcells went out the window the day Parcells left.

Who hired Campo, Wade Wilson, Houck, Garrett? That would be Jerry. He went right back to much of his same old ways the moment BP left the Ranch
 
Doomsday101;2996589 said:
Gosh I could have sworn it was Jerry who bought the team and hired Johnson. I also could swear when Jerry bought the team he said he would be involved with everything from the Jocks to the socks from day 1. I have never taken credit from the job Jimmy did in Dallas nor have I ever claimed Jerry has not made mistakes since he has owned this team hell even Jerry has admitted making mistakes along the way and has implemented changes over the years.
who even puts the owner in the category on winning Superbowls other than Jerry fans? does the Patriots owner take credit for winning those 3 superbowls? does the Steelers Owner take credit for winning the 6 Superbowls he has? no they don't. they hire football people to do football jobs and they get out of the way and give them the oppurtunity to do their jobs to the best of their abilities. not here though, But Jerry sure is lucky Jimmy built one of the greatest teams of all time for him to take credit for.
 
SilverStarCowboy;2996600 said:
Yeah but at least Dallas made the play-offs like every single year and the Championship game and SuperBowl several times in that spance.

12 years without a play-off win certainly did not happen. The Fan base was far more riled even though we made the Play-Offs and won several times in the Post Season during that period.



Now we just sit idle and content as our Dallas Cowboys football life passes us by like a thief in the nite.
Two words for you:Free agencyIf the NFL never went free-agency, the Cowboys would have dominated even the late nineties. One of the big problems is Dallas got caught with back-ended salaries and the Micahel Irvin fiasco, which caused this team to pass on Randy Moss and eventually make a stupid trade for Galloway.
 
khiladi;2996612 said:
Two words for you:Free agencyIf the NFL never went free-agency, the Cowboys would have dominated even the late nineties. One of the big problems is Dallas got caught with back-ended salaries and the Micahel Irvin fiasco, which caused this team to pass on Randy Moss and eventually make a stupid trade for Galloway.

We might have kept it going awhile longer without free agency, until we got old and guys retired and the guys Jerry drafted after Jimmy left moved into starting and key positions, along with the horrible coaching hires that followed and the way Jerry undermined them at the same time.
 
Bach;2996602 said:
Gosh I could have sworn it was Jimmy who hired all of his own staff.
I could have sworn it was Jimmy making the selections on draft day while Jerry told him to look like he was talking to him while the cameras were on in the draft room.
Jerry bought the team and hired his college teammate. If Jerry had hired Switzer or Holtz in '89 instead of Jimmy we'd still be looking at the '70's as the "glory days".

Jerry told him to look like he was talking to him while the cameras were on in the draft room. Nice touch you have no clue about that so you add that in please!!!:lmao:

I do think Jimmy for the simple fact he has just left the college ranks and knew many of the players since he was trying to recruit many of those player we would end up drafting. As the years went by and Jimmy was farther removed from the college ranks he was not hitting on as many. It sure did not show up with the Dolphins. As I said like Jimmy and yes his role on the team was big but a man like Jerry is not sitting there twitting his thumbs all the while.
 
Doomsday101;2996625 said:
Jerry told him to look like he was talking to him while the cameras were on in the draft room. Nice touch you have no clue about that so you add that in please!!!:lmao:

It's a fact and is quite laughable, I agree. That's the kind of empty suited moron Jerry is.

I do think Jimmy for the simple fact he has just left the college ranks and knew many of the players since he was trying to recruit many of those player we would end up drafting. As the years went by and Jimmy was farther removed from the college ranks he was not hitting on as many. It sure did not show up with the Dolphins. As I said like Jimmy and yes his role on the team was big but a man like Jerry is not sitting there twitting his thumbs all the while.

I agree that Jimmy's success in Dallas was largely to do with his familiarity with the college personnel. I agree it's one reason he didn't have the same success in Miami.

But he still did do the job and make the decisions in Dallas. And I would still take his Dolphin drafts over Jerry's any day.
 
Rampage;2996611 said:
who even puts the owner in the category on winning Superbowls other than Jerry fans? does the Patriots owner take credit for winning those 3 superbowls? does the Steelers Owner take credit for winning the 6 Superbowls he has? no they don't. they hire football people to do football jobs and they get out of the way and give them the oppurtunity to do their jobs to the best of their abilities. not here though, But Jerry sure is lucky Jimmy built one of the greatest teams of all time for him to take credit for.

He is the GM as well, do the GM?

By the way yes Owners do take some credit which is why they are presented the thropy. The Rooney's took the center stage when they have won as has Bob Kraft with the Pats.
 
I wonder how long Jimmy would have had success if he would have stayed in Dallas?Would he be considered a legend in Dallas today or an idiot that just lost his mojo and had to go?Jimmy and Jerry turned around a floundering franchise into one of the greatest assemblies of talent ever seen.However,that is in the history books since that was then and this is now.I don't believe that Jerry nor Jimmy deserves more credit than the other,it was a team effort.Jerry gets ragged for a lot of things,some of which is deserved.On the other hand consider this,how much success did Jimmy have in Miami?Was his failure because of a change in coaching philosophy or was it drafting bad players.The one thing that Jimmy new was talent when he was here,he knew every player coming up.Why?He was busy recruiting blue chip players for his college team,but the longer he was away from the college game he was bound to start to struggle in his evaluations.

Craig
 
Doomsday;2996014 said:
So attacking Bailey 13 times and going after the journeyman playing opposite him 2 times was the way Garrett drew it up? Doesnt matter how much thought you put into a plan if it sucks.

You hit the nail right on the head. Great post.

Idiot + crap game plan = lousy outcome

Garrett needs to get his head out of his a**! :bang2:
 
The amusing thing about this whole rant is that everybody thought that with the riddance of TO, the Cowboys would be better. How much of the off-season was spent on how Romo would spread the ball and Garrett won't be single-minded trying to target a big-mouth receiver? Now this team is stuck in a situation, with the only difference is Garrett is targetting Sam Hurd over and over again. Garrett can't find any realy balance between the run and pass, because he lends himself to predictability. The balance is suppose to keep teams off guard. people thought he was the second coming of Nor Turner, but I've said it over and over again... Norv Turner never had AIkman in the shotgun and Norv Turner consitently ran play-action. Garrett has no short-passing attack to counter-act the blitz and doesn't run short screens even to his big receiver in Roy Williams.He is Mike Martz Jr. Mike Martz can rack up yardage, but it is decepting yardage. When this offense plays against good teams, it can't score, especially during the second hald of the season, because teams have figured Garrett out.
 
Rampage;2996611 said:
who even puts the owner in the category on winning Superbowls other than Jerry fans? does the Patriots owner take credit for winning those 3 superbowls? does the Steelers Owner take credit for winning the 6 Superbowls he has? no they don't.

Lots of people give them credit for Super Bowls when ranking owners.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/05/08/nfl.owners/index.html

Rooney is ranked No. 1. Kraft is ranked No. 2.


The goal of a good owner is to win the Super Bowl. The owners who accomplish that, especially more than once, are good owners.
 

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