DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM

[Apollo Creed]

Not at all. A good owner wouldn't tolerate what has happened the last 13 years.

Yeah, he would've fired the GM.

 

[Bach]

"I really like our team. I like the makeup of our team. I like the quarterback a lot. I've been part of a team that lost the first two games and won a Super Bowl. You've got to be a little careful when you've got the length of a season that we've got."

On Jason Garrett's playcalling: "It's so easy to second guess playcalling. I think it goes with the territory. You've got to win consistently to keep it from happening. I do know what we do is well thought out."

On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't manage. I just don't."

...and the saga continues...

 

[vlad]

I'm not real happy with the Cowboys right now but all this Jerry bashing has always confused me.

3 superbowl rings, new amazing stadium and a passionate owner willing to spend money............yeah horrible.

Show me all the owners who have won 3 SB's in 20 years and provided their team with the luxuries the Cowboys have.........

Sure we are in a drought, it kills me just as much as it kills you but it's not like the guy feels any better about it then we do and I'm pretty sure if he could change it tomorrow no matter the cost he would.

Jerry the owner is great. Top notch.
Jerry fails as a GM. I've lived in NYC for the past 7 years and every year I see them, especially since Reese came into the fold, draft player after player after player, and really cultivate talent.

The Jerry/Al Davis comparison is fair. After reading some books on the Cowboys of the 90s, its clear from those involved that Jimmy won in spite of Jerry the GM, not because of him. His ego is too big for that role.

I am as big a Jerry fan as you'll find, but I'll gladly admit he is a horrible GM. And its not even his talent evaluation that kills us, its the fact that he is the only real point of accountability, so tell me again, why would anyone consider Wade, Campo, Gailey, etc...the head coach? Only Parcells and Jimmy ever had that real role here. And in both cases the team made an upward swing.

 

[sacase]

Your never going to get rid of Jerry the GM, its just not going to happen. You have better odds of hitting the lottery than Jerry giving up the GM position. Quit wasting your breath. lol It is much better to think of how this team can with inspite of Jerry the GM.

 

[theebs]

I'm not real happy with the Cowboys right now but all this Jerry bashing has always confused me.

3 superbowl rings, new amazing stadium and a passionate owner willing to spend money............yeah horrible.

Show me all the owners who have won 3 SB's in 20 years and provided their team with the luxuries the Cowboys have.........

Sure we are in a drought, it kills me just as much as it kills you but it's not like the guy feels any better about it then we do and I'm pretty sure if he could change it tomorrow no matter the cost he would.

Its not jerry the owner anyone is upset with.

Jerry the owner most fans are thankful for. Its the other roles he insists on taking. Last week his talking about breaking down game film on his radio show was just a sign that we are back to where we were earlier in the decade.

Only now we have more talent and real expectations. Not many really cared in the earlier part of the decade, we were expected to lose. 2009 is different.

I personally cant take anymore selling of the stadium. I am simply sick of that place and him talking about it.

 

[CF74]

Jerry is already coaching the team. Wade is his defensive coordinator and Garrett runs his offense.

Yep, pretty much...:

 

[Bach]

Your never going to get rid of Jerry the GM, its just not going to happen. You have better odds of hitting the lottery than Jerry giving up the GM position. Quit wasting your breath. lol It is much better to think of how this team can with inspite of Jerry the GM.

The only way that's possible is for us to have a dominant HC who Jerry gives power to. It's not going to happen with the Wades and Campo's of the world. But those seem to be the type Jerry likes to hire, the glorified coordinator with no real control while Jerry pulls the strings.

 

[SDogo]

Its not jerry the owner anyone is upset with.

Jerry the owner most fans are thankful for. Its the other roles he insists on taking. Last week his talking about breaking down game film on his radio show was just a sign that we are back to where we were earlier in the decade.

Only now we have more talent and real expectations. Not many really cared in the earlier part of the decade, we were expected to lose. 2009 is different.

I personally cant take anymore selling of the stadium. I am simply sick of that place and him talking about it.

Ok, after being told 30 times and rightfully so I now understand the complaints. Just for future refrence, when posting on Jerry Jones it should now be a requirement that you lable which Jerry you are speaking of for less educated such as myself.

 

[theebs]

Ok, after being told 30 times and rightfully so I now understand the complaints. Just for future refrence, when posting on Jerry Jones it should now be a requirement that you lable which Jerry you are speaking of for less educated such as myself.

sorry, I didnt see that everyone else said exactly what I did.

reading is half the battle, I will finish the thread next time...didnt mean to pile on!

 

[dallascowboysfan31]

Its not second guessing play calling before the fact. We know that garrett is gonna get away from the run and call cute plays and repetetive pass routes. Its calling it before it happens not second guessing.

 

[TheSport78]

It seems to me like whenever we have great talent, the coaching staff is the weak link of the team. On the other hand when we had almost ZERO talent in 2003, the coaching staff was GREAT with Parcells, Todd Haley, Tony Sparano, Mike Zimmer and so on. It's like Jerry can't get the talent and coaching aspects together on the same page, he always messes up one.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

So if I understand this thread correctly, the general concensous is that Jerry is a good - great owner, but a horrible GM? And that we as a team have so much talent here that it is ridiculous?

How exactly does a terrible GM have a team that has so much talent on his team? I guess that makes sense?

Sure maybe the coaching staff isn't the greatest in the league, and maybe they all should've been fired after last season. But the bottom line is that this team has trouble learning the playbook after three years of the same coaching staff, how are they gonna learn a new playbook in one off season? They'd be more confused then ever out there with a new scheme... but at least that would give everyone a built in excuse right?

 

[Bach]

So if I understand this thread correctly, the general concensous is that Jerry is a good - great owner, but a horrible GM? And that we as a team have so much talent here that it is ridiculous?

How exactly does a terrible GM have a team that has so much talent on his team? I guess that makes sense?

Sure maybe the coaching staff isn't the greatest in the league, and maybe they all should've been fired after last season. But the bottom line is that this team has trouble learning the playbook after three years of the same coaching staff, how are they gonna learn a new playbook in one off season? They'd be more confused then ever out there with a new scheme... but at least that would give everyone a built in excuse right?

You have to look at how many of these guys were brought here by Parcells and Ireland. You also have to look at the coaching staff, which Jerry was responsible for the HC, OC, DB coach, OL, and a few others. You also have to look at the atmosphere that is put in place and the undermining that occurs, although not intentionally.

 

[AdamJT13]

So attacking Bailey 13 times and going after the journeyman playing opposite him 2 times was the way Garrett drew it up?

Romo is the one who decides where to throw the ball. Even if the guy to his right is the primary receiver, he still has the freedom to throw it to someone else if they're open.

 

[craig71]

Jerry isn't going to rellinquish his duties as GM anytime soon.If you want to vent about Garrett,Wade or Romo so be it,but to discuss Jerry resigning as GM of this organization is out of the realm of reality.Wade or Garrett being fired after this weeks game and Romo being traded to Miami has a better chance of happening than for Jerry to give up his GM duties.I think the problem Jerry has is that he has to involved in every decision,it makes him feel that he is in control of the business.So it really wouldn't matter if Jerry resigned as GM or not.Jerry the owner would still be accused of meddling with whoever is coaching along with meddling with whatever GM he hired.

Craig

 

[alancdc]

Jerry Jones really makes anything that could be done to improve the Cowboys a moot point. It's preposterous.

As long as people keep showing up at the stadium, he'll have little incentive to change. Having this guy being the final say on personnel transactions is nauseating. Laugh at Al Davis all you want, we're not in much better shape than they are.

The evidence is clear: Jerry would much prefer to keep things as they are and never even sniff another super bowl, than to hire a GM and admit his complete failure in the product the Cowboys put on the field since the team began to fall apart in the mid-90s.

Were that not the case, there's no way he'd keep the current egomaniac GM employed. 13 years of failure gets any NFL coach, GM or director of personnel fired....except when you're the owner, too.

The situation is completely hopeless as long as he's running the show.

Over the last 24 games, Dallas is 12-12. It's what the team is. To argue otherwise at this point is ridiculous. If the last 24 games isn't enough evidence as to how far we are from being a great team, I don't know what it takes. This first month alone should've dispelled the notion the faithful had that last years was an aberration brought about by a bunch of injuries.

Maybe 3 more years of 9-7? Would that do it?

This team needs a drastic housecleaning, starting with the moron at the top.

I wonder if this .500 type of team were to continue if people WOULD continue to come to the stadium? The only way I could, as a fan, justify paying the crazy prices for tickets, parking, food and drinks is to have hope of a winner, IMO. I know Dallas has loyal fans, but Jerry has priced himself right out of the "everyday Joe" football fan. This is why he MUST fire Wade at the end of this year and hire a Gruden or Shanahan. This would buy him some time with the fans, and keep them coming to his expensive stadium. Without this and another year of not making the playoffs it is a tough sell if you don't give fans the hope of something different. Am I wrong about this? I am in Carolina so I don't know about the feelings on the stadium and cost.

 

[wileedog]

So if I understand this thread correctly, the general concensous is that Jerry is a good - great owner, but a horrible GM? And that we as a team have so much talent here that it is ridiculous?

I don't think we have as much talent as we think we do either.

I know we have ZERO depth, and that is where a true GM makes his living in football.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

You have to look at how many of these guys were brought here by Parcells and Ireland. You also have to look at the coaching staff, which Jerry was responsible for the HC, OC, DB coach, OL, and a few others. You also have to look at the atmosphere that is put in place and the undermining that occurs, although not intentionally.

So do we then ignore the players that were brought here by Jerry, both now and in the past? Don't all teams have people responsible for player personell? Wasn't Ireland's job to offer advice to Jerry on whom to pick, or whom not to pick? Wasn't Ireland hired by Jerry!? Didn't Jerry draft the "most expolosive weapon on our team." Despite the fact that alot of zoners didn't think it was a good move?

Show me one GM that hits on EVERY personell decision?

 

[Big Dakota]

Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM
9:56 AM Tue, Oct 06, 2009
Todd Archer/Reporter

I caught some of Jerry Jones on his weekly appearance on The Fan this morning, and he was not ready to throw away the season after a 2-2 start. No shocker.

Anyway, here's what he said:

"I really like our team. I like the makeup of our team. I like the quarterback a lot. I've been part of a team that lost the first two games and won a Super Bowl. You've got to be a little careful when you've got the length of a season that we've got."

On Jason Garrett's playcalling: "It's so easy to second guess playcalling. I think it goes with the territory. You've got to win consistently to keep it from happening. I do know what we do is well thought out."

On if he would ever hire a coach/general manager type: "No ... I don't have anything I don't MICROMANAGE. I just don't."

Fixed it for ya jerry

 

[Bach]

Show me one GM that hits on EVERY personell decision?

Show me anyone who is suggesting we should hit on EVERY personnel decision?

And while you're at it, show me how many teams have 3 undrafted WR's and a 7th rounder among their top 5 receivers?

And how many teams have only drafted a QB in the first 2 rounds once in the last 2 decades?