DMN Blog: McKelvin coming to visit, too.

[dbair1967]

Yep. You got it.


It's sad when you see one fan's man love for a potential draft pick be so strong that he'd risk f'ing up his favorite team's draft just to get that player.

I've never seen what he has posted in regards to that, but there is more than one to skin a cat. Contrary to what some here think, they dont HAVE to draft a CB in the first rd, we have one good starter and one great one. We need a nickel CB and maybe a 4th CB, or maybe a pure CB and a safety/CB tweener who could play in the nickel. The draft isnt a failure if they dont take a DB in round one. They could easily find a round 2 or even round 3 CB to fill the role we need, and either would almost assuredly be a vast improvement over Reeves (and Jones if two are taken)

David

 

[dbair1967]

Honestly if there is a run on corners that early in the draft, then there is going to be a heck of a player left at #22.

It may not fit our exact need at corner but I honestly could live with say a next tier corner selected with our second, 1st round selection.

I don't like moving up. I'd rather have the draft come to us.

and with THIS particular team, loaded with talent as it is and one of the leagues youngest, I'd argue the opposite. They should move up to secure one of the better players. Plus we pretty much know we're having 5 extra picks in next yars draft. Why settle for lesser prospects that might make little or no contribution when you can get one of the better ones that you have more confidence in?

David

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I could see Jerry using Ayodele or Carpenter along with the #22nd pick to trade up to land one of the top corners.

 

[dbair1967]

I could see Jerry using Ayodele or Carpenter along with the #22nd pick to trade up to land one of the top corners.

Thats kinda what I think and said so in another thread. I dont think our 1st pick will be at 22. Whether its DB or WR (or even a trade up for McFadden) I think we're moving up for sure this yr.

David

 

[Duane]

I could see Jerry using Ayodele or Carpenter along with the #22nd pick to trade up to land one of the top corners.

Honestly what's the value of those two guys right now? In my estimation maybe a 5th round pick and you're not going to be moving up very far with a 5th.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

and with THIS particular team, loaded with talent as it is and one of the leagues youngest, I'd argue the opposite. They should move up to secure one of the better players. Plus we pretty much know we're having 5 extra picks in next yars draft. Why settle for lesser prospects that might make little or no contribution when you can get one of the better ones that you have more confidence in?

David

But those extra picks next year, won't be prime. If we can get away with giving someone a 5 or 6 to move up a little-- then fine. But to spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder... ouch.

 

[Stash]

I've never seen what he has posted in regards to that, but there is more than one to skin a cat. Contrary to what some here think, they dont HAVE to draft a CB in the first rd, we have one good starter and one great one. We need a nickel CB and maybe a 4th CB, or maybe a pure CB and a safety/CB tweener who could play in the nickel. The draft isnt a failure if they dont take a DB in round one. They could easily find a round 2 or even round 3 CB to fill the role we need, and either would almost assuredly be a vast improvement over Reeves (and Jones if two are taken)

David

My stance is heavily influenced by the current market for cornerbacks.

The value of a good one is through the roof right now and I believe a team can never have too many good ones.

Granted, I wouldn't want to see the team reach for a lesser prospect merely to fill the need at #3 but I'm hoping the draft will fall to where they aren't faced with that decision.

But I wouldn't be looking for an 'OK' prospect with designs on him simply being a #3 cornerback. I'm looking for #3 today, #2 or #1 cornerback tomorrow.

Anthony Henry is costly and injury prone so a potential #3 could be forced into #2 duty at any time.

And salary considerations have to be a factor as well. Henry may or may not be around after this year and Newman will be looking for his big payday. I would consider those to be two signficant question marks at the cornerback position heaing into 2008-2009.

One thing is certain, the Cowboys' coaches have to be as tired as I was of seeing the Jacques Reeves/Roy Williams coverage combination repeatedly the target of opposing offenses.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I've never seen what he has posted in regards to that, but there is more than one to skin a cat. Contrary to what some here think, they dont HAVE to draft a CB in the first rd, we have one good starter and one great one. We need a nickel CB and maybe a 4th CB, or maybe a pure CB and a safety/CB tweener who could play in the nickel. The draft isnt a failure if they dont take a DB in round one. They could easily find a round 2 or even round 3 CB to fill the role we need, and either would almost assuredly be a vast improvement over Reeves (and Jones if two are taken)

David

No, the draft won't be a failure if we don't select a corner in round 1. But if we're here next here, after not selecting a corner in round 1, and our 3rd or 4th team corners, end up having to play more than any player selected in the first round, and not look very good doing it, I would be a little cranky. As I see it now a 3rd corner is going to play more than the 2nd string RB.

 

[Chief]

Does this man look like he can sit still?

Jerry will be moving on draft day. Up or down, he'll be moving.

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[dbair1967]

No, the draft won't be a failure if we don't select a corner in round 1. But if we're here next here, after not selecting a corner in round 1, and our 3rd or 4th team corners, end up having to play more than any player selected in the first round, and not look very good doing it, I would be a little cranky. As I see it now a 3rd corner is going to play more than the 2nd string RB.

Maybe, depends on game situations I guess...good bet though that whomever backs up Barber is going to get 100-150 carries or so, plus be on the field in some passing situations. So the nickel CB and backup RB probably get about equal playing time unless one of the starters at CB or RB gets hurt.

Thats why I like McKelvin so much, because not only do I think he has the best CB skills, he's an outstanding return guy. He'll impact more than just one area.

David

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'd rather take DRC or Talib, they're better ballhawks honestly...

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Honestly what's the value of those two guys right now? In my estimation maybe a 5th round pick and you're not going to be moving up very far with a 5th.

We may have to add a late rder with it and we may be talkin about moving 6-7 spots so it could be doable.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Maybe, depends on game situations I guess...good bet though that whomever backs up Barber is going to get 100-150 carries or so, plus be on the field in some passing situations. So the nickel CB and backup RB probably get about equal playing time unless one of the starters at CB or RB gets hurt.

Thats why I like McKelvin so much, because not only do I think he has the best CB skills, he's an outstanding return guy. He'll impact more than just one area.

David

I like McKelvin too, but I feel he's going to go in the top-10, and the price to move up there is going to be exorbitant.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

the football gods know we need help at cb.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Right now It's looking like these guys are going to be drafted before Dallas selects at #22...

McFadden
Ryan
C. Long
Gholston
S. Ellis
J. Long
McKelvin
Cromartie
Clady
Dorsey
Kelly
K. Phillips
C. Williams
Rivers
Mendehall

That's 16.

 

[dbair1967]

I like McKelvin too, but I feel he's going to go in the top-10, and the price to move up there is going to be exorbitant.

Again it depends...if they were to look at McKelvin and say he's a sure fire eventual starter at CB with skills far better than the others, it would be worth it. They might even decide he could start this yr ahead of Henry, moving him into a nickel DB role and maybe even playing a FS type position on passing downs.

It depends on where they rate him obviously, but if the rating is there then I'd do it because of the value of quality CB's over just adequate ones.

David

 

[This is Our Year]

I think we should consider Brandon FLowers at #28. I think in his case measureables don't tell the whole truth. This guy is a good player that we should consider.

 

[CATCH17]

well we at least know now that the defensive staff views mckelvin as the #2 db in this draft!!

I can just picture Andy Reid with a bucket of chicken reading this message board and looking at your post theebs.

Thanks a lot.