DMN Blog: Troy Aikman would take Eli Manning over Tony Romo

Alexander

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theogt;2562128 said:
It's a case of the QB getting too much credit for what his team does. If Samuel doesn't drop the easy INT or if that receiver doesn't make the crazy catch, this isn't even an issue.

Manning still would have postseason wins and would have directed a team to a Super Bowl. He gets a lot of credit for the win; not enough for just getting them there.
 

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When Romo wins something he will have the world eating out of the palm of his hand, but until then I would not expect much love.

Think Brett Favre in terms of how "many" view him here on the zone. A great numbers guy, but throws the ball up for grabs way to much. "Only" won one Super Bowl lost in the other. Overrated.
 

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DallasGirl50;2562122 said:
I'd take Eli too...he has a trophy..and Tony just has, well, 3 years of nothing.
bingo.

eli also seems to have matured and become a leader. romo remains the class clown.
 

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theogt;2562181 said:
Just imagine Eli behind this O-line over the last half of the season. That wouldn't have been pretty.

Ugly behind ugly being ugly.
 

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Thanks Aikman for stating the obvious, who wouldn't take Eli over Romo...... Leave it to our boy Troy.
 

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At this time I would also....Romo has more talent, but he seems to be more concerned with be in the gossip columns.......or on TMZ...instead of being a champion...
 

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rcaldw;2562207 said:
Troy Aikman was a superior talent who was great in his own right. If anything, he was willing to sacrifice personal stats for a team goal. If that makes him LESS a QB in anyone's eyes, it is their perception that is lacking, not Troy's abilities. Aikman was a great QB that to this day is still the best I have ever seen at taking the drop from center. His timing was a work of art.

Turn your "MUST DEFEND TROY" knob down a little bit. I didn't say anything bad about Troy, just observing how his outlook is going to be different than the outlook of say....Warren Moon or someone like that.
 

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chinch;2562216 said:
bingo.

eli also seems to have matured and become a leader. romo remains the class clown.
all the Giants had to do was get rid of the mouth and have the malcontent out of the way.
 

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superpunk;2562233 said:
Turn your "MUST DEFEND TROY" knob down a little bit. I didn't say anything bad about Troy, just observing how his outlook is going to be different than the outlook of say....Warren Moon or someone like that.

Gotcha. Well, you may be absolutely right about that. I'm quite sure that the Dan Marino's of the NFL took a different approach and probably have a different view.

In Moon's case, though, and I admit I don't know enough about Moon's views and could be dead wrong, but I never got the feeling that Warren had to dominate the offense, just that he was ASKED to do what he did. In Marino's case, I'm quite sure that he wanted the offense oriented the way it was for most of his career. It wasn't until late, when he was desperate for a ring that he was willing to share the load.
 

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An obvious non-issue. Romo hasn't shown much of anything in PS, Eli has!

I always chuckle when people say, "Well, IF he played w/ that OL, then....".

What earthly difference does that make? If Marino played on the Niners,
then he'd have multiple rings. And so on, & so on.

It's a loser's mentality to start throwing up "retroactive hypotheticals", to
defend a POV.
eg: If Samuels makes the int, if Crayton makes that 3rd down
catch, if Tyree doesn't hang on, if if if if...........

Sorry, that's for losers & apologists.
Eli's better- period!:bang3:
 

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I can't believe what I am reading here!

Go ahead and take Eli and then come back when he doesn't have the best running game and one of the best defenses to make things easier on him.

Winning a championship in a team sport doesn't make anyone the best at their individual position. It only means that they were a good fit into the team dynamic.

I wonder how the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia games would have turned out if Eli was running the show with the same cast of characters Romo had.

If Eli gets another ring does that make him a better QB then Peyton or Steve Young?

Romo cetainly has some getting better to do but Eli wouldn't even be the third QB I'd pick to start a team with.
 

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Vtwin;2562254 said:
I can't believe what I am reading here!

Go ahead and take Eli and then come back when he doesn't have the best running game and one of the best defenses to make things easier on him.

Winning a championship in a team sport doesn't make anyone the best at their individual position. It only means that they were a good fit into the team dynamic.

I wonder how the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia games would have turned out if Eli was running the show with the same cast of characters Romo had.

If Eli gets another ring does that make him a better QB then Peyton or Steve Young?

Romo cetainly has some getting better to do but Eli wouldn't even be the third QB I'd pick to start a team with.

I rest my case! ^^^
:bang2:
 

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superpunk;2562233 said:
Turn your "MUST DEFEND TROY" knob down a little bit. I didn't say anything bad about Troy, just observing how his outlook is going to be different than the outlook of say....Warren Moon or someone like that.
Warren Moon?
 

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CutMeMick;2562249 said:
An obvious non-issue. Romo hasn't shown much of anything in PS, Eli has!

I always chuckle when people say, "Well, IF he played w/ that OL, then....".

What earthly difference does that make? If Marino played on the Niners,
then he'd have multiple rings. And so on, & so on.

It's a loser's mentality to start throwing up "retroactive hypotheticals", to
defend a POV.
eg: If Samuels makes the int, if Crayton makes that 3rd down
catch, if Tyree doesn't hang on, if if if if...........

Sorry, that's for losers & apologists.
Eli's better- period!:bang3:


I don't know if Eli will prove to be better over the long haul, but you are exactly right about those who want to hypothesize with "what if" scenarios.

And what is often overlooked is that it was the player himself that made the situation what it was.

I mentioned earlier that Dan Marino had to be in a throw, throw, throw offense, after his early success in his career. Obviously Dan Marino was a great thrower of the football, who would deny that? But it was also DAN MARINO who didn't want to share the spotlight if it meant he couldn't throw the ball a ton of times. So Dan Marino is a reason (certainly not the only reason) that Dan Marino didn't play in an offense as balanced as we had in Dallas. Aikman could have certainly put up stats with the best of them, but he wouldn't have played for a 3 time champion either. Jimmy Johnson says to this day that Aikman is the greatest team player he has ever been around. That played a part in Aikman being on 3 Super Bowl Winning teams, along with others who were willing to be selfless and do whatever it took to win. (Darryl Johnston and others)
 

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Vtwin;2562254 said:
I can't believe what I am reading here!

Go ahead and take Eli and then come back when he doesn't have the best running game and one of the best defenses to make things easier on him.

Winning a championship in a team sport doesn't make anyone the best at their individual position. It only means that they were a good fit into the team dynamic.

I wonder how the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia games would have turned out if Eli was running the show with the same cast of characters Romo had.

If Eli gets another ring does that make him a better QB then Peyton or Steve Young?

Romo cetainly has some getting better to do but Eli wouldn't even be the third QB I'd pick to start a team with.

Give it up. You know that Eli is superior to Romo in ever way, not the least of which is LEADERSHIP. When was the last time Romo acted like a leader? Never. Eli, on the other hand, always gets his teammates to play tough. Eli gets pissed whenever he throws an int or the offense goes three and out. Romo, on the other hand, chuckles and says, "Oh well." I'll take Eli.
 

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theogt;2562181 said:
Just imagine Eli behind this O-line over the last half of the season. That wouldn't have been pretty.

His line is bad enough. Didn't we sack him 11 times this year?
 

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While I agree Eli has progressed as a QB when it comes to understanding you have to protect the football while Romo has somehwat regressed, that offense doesnt go thru Eli, it goes thru the running game. Romo's job is to make plays. Eli's job is just to not screw up.


I'll give Eli props cause even with Plaxico, he didnt have the receivers Romo did when he went on the SB run and still played at a high level, but he's not a great quarterback. That being said, Romo is just living off of potential and what he COULD do. Eli's living off of what he's already done.
 

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Vtwin;2562254 said:
I can't believe what I am reading here!

Go ahead and take Eli and then come back when he doesn't have the best running game and one of the best defenses to make things easier on him.

Winning a championship in a team sport doesn't make anyone the best at their individual position. It only means that they were a good fit into the team dynamic.

I wonder how the Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia games would have turned out if Eli was running the show with the same cast of characters Romo had.

If Eli gets another ring does that make him a better QB then Peyton or Steve Young?

Romo cetainly has some getting better to do but Eli wouldn't even be the third QB I'd pick to start a team with.


It's a TEAM game so of course Eli was helped by having tremendous play from his teammates but at the same time he stepped up his game...

I remember watching Giants games and the fans there were booing him...he made dumb throws and did all the wrong things. Same as Romo.

Well here is the scenerio now...the Cowboys have improved in defense and offense and Romo hasn't...he's still making the same mistakes this year he made 3 years ago.

Eli stepped up. Romo hasn't. Hopefully he will. It's up to him. His attitude needs adjusting at the same time his football skills do.
 

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I would take ShEli over Fumblina any day of the week.
 
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