DMN Blog: Troy Aikman would take Eli Manning over Tony Romo

[NextGenBoys]

It's a case of the QB getting too much credit for what his team does. If Samuel doesn't drop the easy INT or if that receiver doesn't make the crazy catch, this isn't even an issue.

Logic. Thank you sir.

Eli doesnt do ****. If he was asked to do what Romo does, there is no comparison.

Trent Dilfer has a ring too, and didnt turn the ball over. Would Aikman take him too in his prime over Romo?

 

[superonyx]

An obvious non-issue. Romo hasn't shown much of anything in PS, Eli has!

I always chuckle when people say, "Well, IF he played w/ that OL, then....".

What earthly difference does that make? If Marino played on the Niners,
then he'd have multiple rings. And so on, & so on.

It's a loser's mentality to start throwing up "retroactive hypotheticals", to
defend a POV.
eg: If Samuels makes the int, if Crayton makes that 3rd down
catch, if Tyree doesn't hang on, if if if if...........

Sorry, that's for losers & apologists.
Eli's better- period!:bang3:

The real losers argument and mentality is to just say "eli won a superbowl" so he is better.

The way I look at this argument is to imagine each player on the other players team. And i actually think the Giants would be a better team with Romo as their QB. It would help Romo to have 12 seconds to throw the ball. Plus the running game the giants have would help any QB. It shows your anti Romo bias when you make statements like this. The "he won a SB" argument is so tired. Trent Dilfer won a superbowl. So i guess you would take him over Marino.

Imagine Sheli Manning on this team. It would be ugly. TO probably would have ***** slapped him by now.

I wouldnt even take Sheli top 5 right now if i were starting a franchise. Probably not even top 10. And you say he is better than Romo. haha

 

[BHendri5]

Nothing to see here, just someone tyring to stir up something.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Eli has a superbowl ring, that tends to give him the edge. He also has a smarter group of players around him though and isn't running for his life 80% of the time.

winning a SB is not the be all and end all of determining the better QB because that would make Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer better than Romo. However, I would take Manning because he makes fewer mistakes.

 

[Big Blue Joe]

I don't know what it was, but something happened to make Eli change. Maybe it was the coaching pulling back the reigns and asking Eli to do less once the playoffs started, which has carried on to this season. He averaged 33.5 pass attempts per game from 2005-2007. He averaged only 29.9 pass attempts per games this season.

That is exactly what happened.

It's remarkable how a top quality running game can turn a JAG into a "superstar" at QB.

I live in Giants country and see most of their games. Eli is a decent and improving young QB. He will ultimately be one of the games best ever bus drivers.

Romo has the potential to be much more then that after only his SECOND FULL SEASON as a starting QB.

Actually the exact opposite happened. Starting in the playoffs last year, the Giants coaching staff finally took the reigns off Eli and gave him Peyton Manning-like control of the offense. The reason the Giants run so much this year is because only an idiot(i.e. a Giants OC) would use a pass-first offense with that OL, collection of RB's, and the generally crappy weather conditions at the Meadowlands. Thankfully, Eli is no dope. He frequently audibles out of pass plays into runs, which is why this is the first time in at least 4 years that the Giants have run more than they've passed.

 

[tyke1doe]

It's a case of the QB getting too much credit for what his team does. If Samuel doesn't drop the easy INT or if that receiver doesn't make the crazy catch, this isn't even an issue.

Isn't that the way it always is? The quarterback gets too much credit and too much blame.

It'll always be the case as long as quarterback is the premiere position on a football team.

 

[EPL0c0]

I'd take Eli too...he has a trophy..and Tony just has, well, 3 years of nothing.

3 years of "If losing a game is the worst thing that ever happens to me..."

 

[saphire1]

Originally Posted by theogt
It's a case of the QB getting too much credit for what his team does. If Samuel doesn't drop the easy INT or if that receiver doesn't make the crazy catch, this isn't even an issue.

why should it be always about "what ifs", not with what actually happened?! what if eli didnt fight to escape that almost surefire sack of seymour?! sure, it's still his team that made that happen, not eli. what if he didnt see plax in the endzone and threw a perfect pass at him? eli sucks!!!!

what if romo played better during december? what if he didn't throw that boneheaded 3rd interception in the steelers game when no receiver was looking? what if he didn't force the ball too much to witten? what if he didnt throw those 2 early interceptions in the ravens game that put the cowboys behind early? what if he threw away those balls instead where he didnt have any play instead of throwing clunkers that were surefire interceptions??

i guess those things dont count when it comes to romo then. just eli and the other qb's.

 

[casmith07]

Troy Aikman liked Drew Henson.

 

[NeonNinja]

Who cares what Aikman says.

 

[Batman]

Troy Aikman would take Eli Manning over Tony Romo

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How do I know? Did I ask Aikman about it in our conversation on Wednesday? Sadly, the answer is 'no' I did not. I guess I should have because that''s the kind of question that lights up the blogging universe.
Fortunately, Newsday's Watchdog apparently thought to ask about it when he talked to Aikman about Sunday's Eagles-Giants game, which Aikman will analyze for Fox. And then 'Dog even remembered to post the scoop here..
Here's Watchdog's crackerjack report:
"I would have to say I'd take Eli right now," said Aikman, who earlier this season told a New York radio station that Romo was his pick. "I still think that Tony has amazing playmaking ability. He has some abilities that are rare in this league at that position and he can create. But when you evaluate the body of work and when you really evaluate, what does it take to win, when you look at Eli he has a body of work that shows he has what it takes...I would take Eli."
I'm going back to study the material I thought I learned in Blogging 101, which I think I took during the Fall Semester in 1977 back at Northwestern's Medill School of Journalism.

Eli also does not have to worry about having the NFLs dumbest GM and owner screwing things for him, and Captain Cream Puff as his coach. Sure, it is easy for many to take Eli over Romo, but Romo has quite a bit more going against him than Eli does. If Romo was the NYG QB, he would have the ring.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It's a case of the QB getting too much credit for what his team does. If Samuel doesn't drop the easy INT or if that receiver doesn't make the crazy catch, this isn't even an issue.

While I agree with that... he still has playoff wins.

He would still have gotten to the Superbowl and Romo would still be without a playoff win.

Eli gets raised up by his team, absolutely, but the mistake is thinking there's anything wrong with that.

Romo could use a little bit of that as well, and Romo having the numbers he has individually is also partly due to the team he's on.

Agreed. I love how some knock Rothelisberger... but he should be given more credit for keeping his team in the games. Plus he has playoff wins and SB.

All Tony has is hype, some stats and the face of the franchise.

 

[DallasGirl50]

It's real simple to me.

Eli has a ring and his coaches have surrounded him with the team to help him succeed. And no matter what anybody says or what stats you throw out there he has improved; he's learned how to win.

Tony at this point is still just a project...well he throw another int here? What if he fumbles here? With some really spectacular athletic plays thrown in here and there that shows the guy has tremendous ability but he's still making the dumbest QB plays this side of the worse high school team you'll ever see.

If Tony doesn't succeed this team is done for years so of course I want to see him succeed.

Do I see that happening? Not so far with anything I've seen. Just the same ole, same ole with him.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

While I agree with that... he still has playoff wins.




Agreed. I love how some knock Rothelisberger... but he should be given more credit for keeping his team in the games. Plus he has playoff wins and SB.

All Tony has is hype, some stats and the face of the franchise.

that is hyperbole and you know it. Romo is not just hype and "some stats".

He is 21-8 as a starter the last two seasons, that is pretty damn good.

 

[Rampage]

I see too many "ifs this happened" when people are picking/defending Romo.

 

[saphire1]

He is 21-8 as a starter the last two seasons, that is pretty damn good.

i agree with you. pretty damn good. its also pretty glaring that he's 0-2 in the playoffs, and even missed it entirely in his 3rd try.

Just the same ole, same ole with him.

romo: "if troy picks me, then ok. If troy picks eli, then ok too."

I see too many "ifs this happened" when people are picking/defending Romo.

nothing's wrong with the golden boy. others just plain suck!

 

[Beast_from_East]

Way to be a Turncoat there Aikman, you freaking traitor.

Elie did jack to help that team win a SB, it was all on that D-line. Elie stunk it up so bad in 07 that he didnt even get voted to the probowl.

And now he all of a sudden is a freaking stud???

Sorry, but I dont buy it one bit. Asante Samuel had the ball hit him right in the chest and he dropped it, if he holds on to that gift pick the Patroits go 19-0.

So dont tell me about how great Elie is because the G-men have a devastating D-line and a 3-headed rushing attact of "Earth, Wind, and Fire".

If Elie's last name was not Manning, he would not be having people all over his jock like this and he would not have been the overall #1 pick either.

Just saying.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

that is hyperbole and you know it. Romo is not just hype and "some stats".

He is 21-8 as a starter the last two seasons, that is pretty damn good.

Yeah... I was a little hard on him...

BUT thats because he has absolutely collapsed under pressure in BIG games late in season. I am not talking one time either.

 

[DallasDomination]

I would take Eli too, Romo is a choker right now..

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Yeah... I was a little hard on him...

BUT thats because he has absolutely collapsed under pressure in BIG games late in season. I am not talking one time either.

I guess the real question though is whether or not you can just blame one guy for a loss in a team sport.

I mean he wasn't on the field for those two long runs by the Ravens, he wasn't the one who let a guy playing with one wing punk him for a TD like Henry did against Mason etc