DMN Blog: Where Was Ware?

That's what I couldn't figure out is why our CB's were so far off the WR's when obviously the gameplan was for Crybabie to to take a 1 to 3 step drop and unleash the ball. It wasn't so much of Eli doing a good job. That was the plan from the get go. We should have been in press coverage with safety help over the top and someone shadowing Shockey.(Not Roy) & I'm a RW fan.
 
CrazyCowboy;1639113 said:
Ware was ALMOST in on several game changing plays....just did not quite work out

almost sacks are worthless if the pass is completed.
 
theogt;1638967 said:
On 46 pass plays he was in coverage 9 times. 9 times. If he doesn't rack up sacks this year, he's not very good.

He'll be in coverage even less when Newman is back and healthy.


I hope.
 
Teague31;1639138 said:
the most frustrating part is that the quick drops still resulted in long pass plays... which means our secondary cannot cover for more than half a second.
We have to give our front 7 more than a 3 step drop to cover. If those corners and safeties can cover at least for 2 seconds, we will dominate.
 
MichaelWinicki;1639120 said:
The Giants used a lot of quick drops.

Quick drops can negate a pass rush no matter what some folks think.

Especially when the CBs are playing 30 feet off the WR.
 
I'd like to see Ware dip that inside shoulder to get under the tackle a la Dwight Freeney. In re-watching the game, Ware seems to go in too high when pass rushing and his rush usually goes wide.
 
I'm sorry but if anyone is doubting WAre they are out of their mind...He is a beast, PERIOD!.

One game and I read this????? HILARIOUS!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
 
DallasDomination;1639302 said:
I'm sorry but if anyone is doubting WAre they are out of their mind...He is a beast, PERIOD!.

One game and I read this????? HILARIOUS!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

I don't think anyone is doubting Ware but he "just misses" a lot. His technique, imo, could use a little work. One game is no cause of concern for me...I'm just saying.
 
BlueStar22;1639309 said:
I don't think anyone is doubting Ware but he "just misses" a lot. His technique, imo, could use a little work. One game is no cause of concern for me...I'm just saying.


third year... I'm just saying
 
I would imagine Ware also got pretty tired. He basically played every down. With Ellis out and Burnett playing very, very little due to his ankle, Ware had to have gotten worn down a bit, especially considering how much he had to rush the passer, along with dropping in coverage on certain plays. Lot of running around for the entire game. Hopefully if Ellis comes back and can contribute, we can get a good rotation going with out OLBs and keep them fresher throughout the game. Carpenter and Burnett can also play both inside and outside. If everyone gets healthy, we should be able to keep all our LBs fresh and that will be a huge help.
 
Giants' OL was 5th best in the league when it came to giving up sacks last year.

They don't have any big names on the OL but they play well as a unit.
 
DeMarcus Ware was credited for two hurries, but he wasn't close to the beast expected to be unleashed in the Phillips 3-4.

I don't think MacMahon knows how few times a player gets credited with a quarterback hurry. Last year, based on the official NFL GameBooks, Ware was credited with two non-sack hurries in a game only four times in 17 games (including the playoffs). Merriman had two non-sack hurries only one time in 13 games -- and only six all season, including the playoffs.

Phillips' defense in San Diego last season had a total of 35 non-sack hurries in 17 games. Our defense had only 30 in 17 games.

In our first game with Phillips, we had only one sack (actually two, but the sack on the two-point conversion won't count in the stats) and six non-sack hurries. Last year, neither we nor the Chargers EVER had that many hurries in a game. Our high was four (one time), and the Chargers' high was five (in the playoff game).

If you combine sacks and hurries, we had seven against the Giants (eight, if we count the two-point conversion). We averaged only 3.9 last season, and the Chargers averaged only 5.8. In other words, even though our pass-rush wasn't all-out dominant against the Giants -- as some people seem to be expecting every game -- the results actually are very encouraging. And if we can get Newman and Ellis back, it should be even better.
 
AdamJT13;1639565 said:
I don't think MacMahon knows how few times a player gets credited with a quarterback hurry. Last year, based on the official NFL GameBooks, Ware was credited with two non-sack hurries in a game only four times in 17 games (including the playoffs). Merriman had two non-sack hurries only one time in 13 games -- and only six all season, including the playoffs.

Phillips' defense in San Diego last season had a total of 35 non-sack hurries in 17 games. Our defense had only 30 in 17 games.

In our first game with Phillips, we had only one sack (actually two, but the sack on the two-point conversion won't count in the stats) and six non-sack hurries. Last year, neither we nor the Chargers EVER had that many hurries in a game. Our high was four (one time), and the Chargers' high was five (in the playoff game).

If you combine sacks and hurries, we had seven against the Giants (eight, if we count the two-point conversion). We averaged only 3.9 last season, and the Chargers averaged only 5.8. In other words, even though our pass-rush wasn't all-out dominant against the Giants -- as some people seem to be expecting every game -- the results actually are very encouraging. And if we can get Newman and Ellis back, it should be even better.

absolutely...and couple that with a lot of 3 step drops (did not personally count them but it sure looked like a lot from the first time viewing)
 
dbair1967;1639133 said:
he's racked up sacks both yrs he's been in the league...he IS a good player

David

I agree. It's one game and he played well all of last year. Roy on the other hand should be open to criticism.
 
Quick 3 step drops and a secondary playing off. I don't care who you are that makes getting pressure real hard. And to their credit the Giants are a good pass blocking team. Watch the Colts and one of the reasons Manning harldly ever gets sacked is the speed at which he unloads. That is what ticked me off about our GAME plan. Once it was clear what the giants were doing we should have had the Secondary tighten up- and we DIDN'T. Where was all this great coaching we were supposed to have NOW?
 
dargonking999;1639334 said:
third year... I'm just saying

What are you saying? This is his 3rd year and he has to do something to prove he is a good player? He proved he was a good player in his first two years. A very good player. He may have to step up to show he can be a great player, but I will take his performance from last year for the rest of his career. You can win with a player like Ware and I wish there were more of them in Dallas.
 
burmafrd;1639614 said:
Quick 3 step drops and a secondary playing off. I don't care who you are that makes getting pressure real hard. And to their credit the Giants are a good pass blocking team. Watch the Colts and one of the reasons Manning harldly ever gets sacked is the speed at which he unloads. That is what ticked me off about our GAME plan. Once it was clear what the giants were doing we should have had the Secondary tighten up- and we DIDN'T. Where was all this great coaching we were supposed to have NOW?
Our coaching was compensating for inept play on the field. They played off because Jacques Reeves and Henry were our corners. They are supposed to funnel the play inside to our safeties, who are supposed to make plays.

The funneling appeared to happen. But noone made plays, either up front or on the back end.

The PLAYERS make PLAYS. The coaching staff had them in position to make some plays, the players simply proved (again) that they are incapable.
 
theogt;1638958 said:
Conclusion: Ware performed like a pretty good player, and that's how the Giants treated him. The Cowboys need him to be a game-changing, scheme-altering monster.

He did alter the scheme. When he got one-on-one's the G-Men roughly went to quick 3 step drops almost all of the time. Whe the G-Men wanted to use more intermediate and deep patterns with 5 step drops, they made sure to double team him.




YAKUZA
 
no one is going to get a sack when they throw the ball that quick...our cb's have to cover or no one will get a sack
 

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