News: DMN: Bryan Broaddus: Cowboys will be fine on defense, can even draft better players than

[fredp22]

To everyone including Broaddus saying we will be fine..This draft is deep in DBs..We have 1 pick per round. We aren't getting 4 day one starting DBs out of the draft..And that's what we let walk. Not signing Mo back for what he got in his one year deal is insane. Wilcox too for what he was paid imo, bit definitely Mo.

Mo was a bust but I hear what ur saying. I liked Carr but Rod has to have said he didnt want them. We have the cap room. I really think Rod likes the dbs in the draft and he did pick Brown and Byron both of who have been solid. Last 2 drafts our staff have been good and this draft is strong for dbs. Maybe they see something they like. I'm hoping so anyway but again your point is well taken

 

[StarBoyz83]

You've temporarily lost your mind

There's maybe 3 people on the planet that buy that total crock.
One of those teams had the 32 RANKED DEFENSE.
On what planet would that EVER mean 10-12 wins
Good lord....absolute short bus championship comment there by you.
Congrats.


Notice I criticized the comment and not the person.

Btw, nobody would deny there were bad games in there by the offense and Tony. No doubt.
But they absolutely carried those teams to 8 wins with FAR more good play than bad.

Didn't say there were contenders. Said they should've won more games. The were known for being the apitimy of game blowing. You obviously didn't pay attentin those seasons. They pulled falcon like collapses all the time.

Where do you think the "accident waiting to happen" came from?

 

[Pants]

I can see Dallas trading back with their first and picking up an additional 3rd or so, thus getting them another pick in the first 120...I am not overly concerned with the departures, they need something different on defense...a pass rush would be prudent....that would change everything, especially if the 4 down-lineman can apply that pressure and leave the LB's and DB's to cover....I think Jaylon + Tapper are like a first and 2nd rounder, respectively if they stay healthy, then tack on our actual first and second rounders from this draft and now we have 4 shiny new players on defense...along with Carroll...

Note: I am intrigued by the prospects of taking one of the top TE's if they somehow fall to our first rounder....still thinking on that one

 

[OldCoach]

Romo, Moore, Dez, DMC, Swaim, Collins, DLaw, Tapper, Scandrick, Claiborne, Church, and Wilcox all were injured and missed significant time. Guys like Tyron and Crawford played through injury as well.

When you are winning you don't have to use injuries as an excuse. Then folks forget about injuries. Haha.

 

[DFWJC]

Didn't say there were contenders. Said they should've won more games. The were known for being the apitimy of game blowing. You obviously didn't pay attentin those seasons. They pulled falcon like collapses all the time.

Where do you think the "accident waiting to happen" came from?

Fantasy, not reality.
I promise you, that was a national narrative that had little basis on reality.
3 years , 48 games.
No doubt there were a couple of stinkers. 2012 Washington, for example.
But SO many game -winning rabbit out of hat wins,
And a few flat out legendarily heoric wins like at Super Bowl bound San Franciso, with punctured lung, two broken ribs, on the road...OT win.
Hey, even Wasington the next year with almost no time left...game-winner. So many...more than any other QB in that time frame.

 

[AshyLarry06]

It was also an Incredibly lucky season where the ball keps bouncing our way and no one really got injured

Right, "no one really got injured", only a couple of scrubs named Romo and Bryant, one of whom missed the entire season. Oh yea I forgot to mention those two bench warmers on the DLine named Lawrence and Gregory who missed time due to injury and suspension, probably forgot to mention them because of how irrelevant they were. But chyea, other than that no one got hurt...

 

[gimmesix]

This team's letting some defensive players walk them out the door. This defense wasn't good enough to get them further into the playoffs. Take the opportunity to let some guys walk and then turn around and draft some guys to make this work..

This is a fine thought, but not all that easy to do. In most drafts, you've done well if you hit on a couple of starters, especially when you are drafting where we are drafting. You might find a couple more contributors, but you're certainly not guaranteed to "draft some guys to make this work."

Last year was a boon draft for us because we got three starters and a quasi-starter (and we might get a fifth depending on Smith's ability to play). If a team starts thinking it can do that every year, it is fooling itself.

In 2015, we drafted one sure starter (Jones), a quasi-starter (Wilson), a maybe starter (Green) and a couple of role players (Swaim and, maybe, Nzeocha) out of eight picks.

In 2014, we drafted a starter (Martin), a quasi-starter so far (Lawrence) and a role player (Hitchens) out of nine picks.

In 2013, we drafted two starters (Frederick and Williams), one of which fans wanted to replace this offseason, and a bunch of guys who didn't warrant a second contract (closest was Wilcox) out of seven picks.

In 2012, we got a starter (Crawford), a quasi-starter (Claiborne) and two role players (Hanna and Wilber) out of seven picks.

So if anyone expecting a starting defensive end, a starting corner and a starting safety, not to mention the requests for a starting right tackle, is living in a dream world.

 

[big dog cowboy]

You can draft to fix the secondary. You can draft to fix the pass rush. You don't have enough meaningful picks to do both by drafting at the END of every round.

Dallas only has 3 picks in the top 120.

As of today yes. That won't be the cast in a few weeks.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Right, "no one really got injured", only a couple of scrubs named Romo and Bryant, one of whom missed the entire season. Oh yea I forgot to mention those two bench warmers on the DLine named Lawrence and Gregory who missed time due to injury and suspension, probably forgot to mention them because of how irrelevant they were. But chyea, other than that no one got hurt...

Yea and the pats only lost gronk for the season. Look at the years before how many injuries we had.

 

[conner01]

I don't understand trying to completely rebuild the secondary a year removed from nearly being in the conference championship. Possibly three years down the drain ala the O-line rebuild.

I had the same thought but the more I think about it, the more I see the logic. We could have kept mo but could he have played 16 games?
We could have kept Carr but can we get younger, cheaper and maybe hit on a good player?
Every draft has its strengths and weaknesses and this draft's strength is the secondary. We have scandrick , brown and Carroll so you add a rookie or two and you have the numbers and maybe not instant replacements but if you pick well maybe a guy or two who can develope into comparable players who are younger and cheaper
I think church will be missed but jones and Heath so you add another rookie and if you pick well you may have a guy to line up next to jones for awhile who is also younger and cheaper
You have to pick well but if you need help in the secondary this draft is just the talent at those spots you need

 

[JoeKing]

Good news if Broaddus is right.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I've said this as well...

 

[AKATheRake]

Sure keep milking those 13 wins. Once the season starts, not a single one of them will matter anymore. But that doesn't stop anyone from still thinking about them.

Reminds me a lot of the mindset going into 2008.

I agree with you totally. but Carr is not worth that money. Church certainly is not and Wilcox is what he is.

Claiborne will never be worth the 6th overall pick even playing a full season.

More important I like Anthony Brown being an even better player in his 2nd year and a totally healthy Oscan.

Byron Jones even better in his 3rd year and he can play corner. I think we need another corner and and safety, especially if Jones stays at safety and probably will. We are not not hurting as much as everyone thinks we are in the secondary. We have young viable talent and have draftable options to add to it.

Pass rush I think Marinelli believes in Maliek Colling in the middle and at 22 years old next month I can see why. Tyrone Crawford is paid and is still young. Mix in the other Crawford inside and out depending on rushing and passing downs and there's another good young play. Lawrence is staying on the left side and the right side is where they are obviously going to have to look.

This team is very young and it's exactly the way the front office wants to keep it and is going to keep it minus a future HOF in Jason Witten for leadership/ultimate teammate or a Sean Lee for talented veteran leadership.

Who were we going to get in FA worth paying for at DE elite money? Corner?

They're doing the right thing. They still have Romo and will get something. They can get good players with their top 2 picks and push for another to get more snaps by mid season from their 3rd and 4th rounders.

They'll wait for FA to give them depth where they need it.

 

[lukin2006]

Apparently the Jags, Ravens, and Jets don't agree

You lost me by bringing the Jags and Jets into the argument...i'd be surprised if MO plays 10 games next year.

 

[lukin2006]

They can still bring in a veteran at some point, this defensive backfield was 26th in pass coverage, they are not good players that walked out the door...average at best.

 

[windward]

But, the 49ers under Bill Walsh did it!

Wait, so did the Panthers of 2016 with slightly different results.

Oh we are expecting multiple rookies to start at corner?

Another false narrative peddled by you.

 

[rambo2]

This is a fine thought, but not all that easy to do. In most drafts, you've done well if you hit on a couple of starters, especially when you are drafting where we are drafting. You might find a couple more contributors, but you're certainly not guaranteed to "draft some guys to make this work."

Last year was a boon draft for us because we got three starters and a quasi-starter (and we might get a fifth depending on Smith's ability to play). If a team starts thinking it can do that every year, it is fooling itself.

In 2015, we drafted one sure starter (Jones), a quasi-starter (Wilson), a maybe starter (Green) and a couple of role players (Swaim and, maybe, Nzeocha) out of eight picks.

In 2014, we drafted a starter (Martin), a quasi-starter so far (Lawrence) and a role player (Hitchens) out of nine picks.

In 2013, we drafted two starters (Frederick and Williams), one of which fans wanted to replace this offseason, and a bunch of guys who didn't warrant a second contract (closest was Wilcox) out of seven picks.

In 2012, we got a starter (Crawford), a quasi-starter (Claiborne) and two role players (Hanna and Wilber) out of seven picks.

So if anyone expecting a starting defensive end, a starting corner and a starting safety, not to mention the requests for a starting right tackle, is living in a dream world.

2017 is a very strong draft. There will be some very good players taken in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

 

[gimmesix]

2017 is a very strong draft. There will be some very good players taken in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

That tune has been sung before and turned out not to be true. I hope each year that we pick the right players, but there's no guarantee that we will.

As I pointed out from previous drafts, if we get two starters out of this one, then it's a typical draft. If we get more than that, we should count our lucky stars.

 

[erod]

Sure you do... 1 pick for a corner, 1 pick for a safety and 1 pick for a WDE... Not necessarily in that order.

It's going to take more than one guy to fix the pass rush. And pass rushers generally take 2-3 years to become effective.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

We aren't getting 4 day one starting DBs out of the draft

How many starters do you think they had? Two of those guys play the same position. 3 of the top 5 in the secondary are back.