DMN: Cowboys best/worst all-time draft picks: Quarterback

[ZeroClub]

There may be a good reason to start a list with 1967, but it was silly for Archer to label that list as "all-time." 1967 isn't the beginning of time. The drafts before 1967 aren't "prehistoric."

Defensive back Phil Clark was not the first player drafted by the Cowboys ... although he was the first player drafted by the Cowboys in 1967.

 

[Established1971]

Cowboys best/worst all-time draft picks: Quarterback
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Best

Troy Aikman, UCLA
1989, First round (No.1 overall)

Since we only go back to 1967 in our selection process, this is the easiest pick. Had we used the entire franchise history, then getting Roger Staubach in the 10th round of the 1964 draft as a "future" player, Staubach would have topped the list.

Aikman holds or is tied for 47 passing records, including yards (32,942) and touchdowns (165) but Aikman wasn't judged on stats. He was judged on winning and he won three Super Bowls and was named the MVP of Super Bowl XXVII. He also won 90 games in the 1990s, which gave him more wins in a decade for a team than any quarter.

Danny White, Arizona State
1974, Third round (No. 53 overall)

In a franchise with two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Staubach and Aikman, White's accomplishments get overlooked. He had a 62-30 record as a starter but three straight losses in NFC Conference Championship Games hurt his legacy.

Still, he threw for 21,959 yards and had 155 touchdown passes to go with one Pro Bowl appearance. He was also an excellent punter.

Worst

Quincy Carter, Georgia
2001, Second round (No. 53 overall)

Being picked at No. 53 overall was the biggest surprise of the 2001 draft and not his fault. The Cowboys were in desperate need for a quarterback, especially one that could cover up some offensive line warts and reached for Carter.

A huge reach that failed, although he posted a 10-6 record in 2003 and helped the Cowboys to the playoffs in Bill Parcells' first year. Ten players chosen after Carter in the second round went on to play in at least one Pro Bowl.

In 31 starts for the Cowboys, Carter had 26 touchdown passes and 36 interceptions. He was cut early in training camp in 2004 after reports of a failed drug test.


Sorry, but I just had to post this and get the old debate going again...

wasnt it just a few picks before Carter that Drew Brees went? Oh my god what a vast difference in qulaity for such a small distance in draft order

 

[dun4]

Re: Sonny Gibbs - But Man, he was huge and just looked like a QB when warming up. And this was '62 and Sonny had played well for TCU. Tex thought he could get the Ft Worth crowd over to the Cotton Bowl. I even went to preseason game. Kept the glasses on Sonny a lot. Alas, to no avail ...

 

[es22]

I am sorry, but, I still couldn't stand Gary Hogeboom. Never will. I ain't saying he is the worst draft pick,but, seeing as how I didn't watch much football in the 60's or early 70'( I was born in 72') I would have to say that Gary was my least favorite.

Hogeboom was my most hated QB until Quincy Carter. I was a pure football junkie (CFL, NFL, NCAA, Candian Univ, USFL, AFL) and now mostly NFL fan. I followed Carter's career and he got worse each and every year.

When he declared for the draft, I laughed my *** off, saying that it was the stupidest decison he could make. Too bad I didnt realize that Jerry and Quincy shared a birthday.

When Dallas drafted him, I went ballistic, especially since we drafted this stiff in the 2nd round. My Quincy memory was when he thew 4 INT vs the Cards (2 in the end Zone) and Jerry finally realized he was a mistake.

 

[BubbleScreen]

Yeah, but at elast we got something back for Walsh (1st and 3rd I believe)

We got nothing for Q-Trash.

That's not true. Jerry traded down so many times he netted picks that turned into the immortals Tony Dixon and Markus Steele.

Look at the 2001 draft. With the Galloway trade eating our first rounder and all reasonable chances of guys like LT, Richard Seymour, Steve Hutchinson and Drew Brees, was Carter that bad a pick? The Eagles picked Freddie Mitchell in the first round. Seriously.

2001 was a horrendous draft but that was true for anyone other than San Diego.

 

[THUMPER]

Re-read the OP and see why Gibbs is excluded here. All your points would be dead-on otherwise.

Only back to 1967 eh. Oh well.

 

[THUMPER]

From Hostile's Reply:

Roger Staubach was also drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1964. Our 1st round pick in 1964 was Scott Appleton. he never played a down for the Cowboys because he chose the Oilers of the AFL over us.

Actually, we had traded the pick to the Stealers for Buddy Dial and made the selection for them (like we did with Steve Wisnewski for the Raiders in the 1989 draft). Fortunately, we didn't have to give Pittsburgh anything else since it wasn't our fault the guy they wanted decided to play in the AFL instead.

The ones that really hurt were in 1961 when we had 3 guys who would go on to Pro-Bowl careers, including one HoFer, sign with the AFL instead of with us. LB/C E.J. Holub & OT Stew Barber each went to 5 PBs and OG Billy Shaw went to 8 and is in the HoF. It kills me to think of how much we could have used those 3 guys in the early 60s.

We did get Bob Lilly in that draft though.

 

[Venger]

Ten players chosen after Carter in the second round went on to play in at least one Pro Bowl.

This doesn't mean near as much as it used to...

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Re: Sonny Gibbs - But Man, he was huge and just looked like a QB when warming up. And this was '62 and Sonny had played well for TCU. Tex thought he could get the Ft Worth crowd over to the Cotton Bowl. I even went to preseason game. Kept the glasses on Sonny a lot. Alas, to no avail ...

Enlighten us further.

Please and Thank you.

 

[AdamJT13]

Glenn Carano, our second-round pick in 1977, was a worse pick than Quincy Carter.

Carano started one game in his entire career. Carter was the starter on a playoff team, and he put up more yards in one game that Carano did in his career.

 

[THUMPER]

Glenn Carano, our second-round pick in 1977, was a worse pick than Quincy Carter.

Carano started one game in his entire career. Carter was the starter on a playoff team, and he put up more yards in one game that Carano did in his career.

Good choice.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Cowboys best/worst all-time draft picks: Quarterback
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Worst

Quincy Carter, Georgia
2001, Second round (No. 53 overall)

Being picked at No. 53 overall was the biggest surprise of the 2001 draft and not his fault. The Cowboys were in desperate need for a quarterback, especially one that could cover up some offensive line warts and reached for Carter.

A huge reach that failed, although he posted a 10-6 record in 2003 and helped the Cowboys to the playoffs in Bill Parcells' first year. Ten players chosen after Carter in the second round went on to play in at least one Pro Bowl.

In 31 starts for the Cowboys, Carter had 26 touchdown passes and 36 interceptions. He was cut early in training camp in 2004 after reports of a failed drug test.


Sorry, but I just had to post this and get the old debate going again...

What a crock!

Viking coach at the time Dennis Green has publicly said that the he and the Vikings would have taken Quincy Carter with their next draft pick if the Cowboys didn't take him. Don't recall if it was late 2nd or early 3rd pick the Vikings were talking about.

And Quincy led the team to the playoffs as a rookie and showed something. Drugs did him in. Running QBs ala McNabb were the fashion at the time.

By the way, 90% of QBs drafted (last 16 years) in the 2nd rd are busts. Nearly 50% of QBs drafted in the 1st rd fail.

It was a gamble that paid off in the 1st year and then fizzled.

 

[joseephuss]

What a crock!

Viking coach at the time Dennis Green has publicly said that the he and the Vikings would have taken Quincy Carter with their next draft pick if the Cowboys didn't take him. Don't recall if it was late 2nd or early 3rd pick the Vikings were talking about.

And Quincy led the team to the playoffs as a rookie and showed something. Drugs did him in. Running QBs ala McNabb were the fashion at the time.

By the way, 90% of QBs drafted (last 16 years) in the 2nd rd are busts. Nearly 50% of QBs drafted in the 1st rd fail.

It was a gamble that paid off in the 1st year and then fizzled.

The Cowboys did not go to the playoffs in Carter's rookie season of 2001. They made it in 2003. He also was not a running QB. He could run, but he didn't really come from a running type system. I think he amassed less than 700 rushing yards during his 3 years at Georgia. Running QBs will get more than that in a single season.


http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=60207&draftyear=2001&genpos=QB

 

[speedkilz88]

Jimmy drafted Bill Musgrave in the 4th round of the 1991 draft. Didn't make the team.

 

[Hook'em#11]

I was hyped for Quincy being a Cowboy. I will admit that. I remember telling my bro about him and such. We went to Oxnard for training camp in Quincy's rookie year.

Then, we saw him throw. I was thinking "holy cow, this might of been a huge mistake". Hell, Banks was throwing better then Quincy.

My bro was all" THIS is the guy? THIS Guy? You need to get your eyes checked man..." LOL..

Man, was I ever so wrong about Quincy.

Still , for me, Hogeboom still takes it.

I am loving the history lessons in here of the Cowboys before my time. Thanks guys.

 

[dbair1967]

Glenn Carano, our second-round pick in 1977, was a worse pick than Quincy Carter.

Carano started one game in his entire career. Carter was the starter on a playoff team, and he put up more yards in one game that Carano did in his career.

I guess I'd say Carano was never drafted with the intention he'd be a starter and we had alot more picks in 1977 than we did the year we took Carter, who we also traded up to get. I also dont recall Carano being a drugged out bonehead.

 

[AdamJT13]

I guess I'd say Carano was never drafted with the intention he'd be a starter

Really? You think Gil Brandt and Tom Landry would spend a second-round pick on a guy they think will be a career backup at best?

and we had alot more picks in 1977 than we did the year we took Carter, who we also traded up to get.

And none of that makes Carano a better draft pick.

I also dont recall Carano being a drugged out bonehead.

Michael Irvin was a drugged out bonehead, too. Does that make him a worse draft pick than Mike Sherrard? Was Leon Lett a worse draft pick than Darren Benson?

What Carter did on the field as a drugged out bonehead was much, much better than what Carano did as a sober stiff.

 

[Phoenix]

Glenn Carano, our second-round pick in 1977, was a worse pick than Quincy Carter.

Carano started one game in his entire career. Carter was the starter on a playoff team, and he put up more yards in one game that Carano did in his career.

I was going to point out the same, you beat me to it.

On a side note, that 1977 draft DID produce Dorsett (round 1), Jim Cooper (T, 6th) and Tony Hill (WR, 3rd), but we had a couple of other dud picks before one Lester Hayes (CB, 5th) went off the board to Oakland...

 

[Biggems]

Steve Walsh does not belong on this list for 3 reasons.

1. He beat the Commanders in our only victory of 1989.

2. IMO, the main reason he was brought in to begin with was to give Aikman a high profile kick in the butt, which worked bigtime. I am not saying that Troy needed it, but competition is always valuable and makes great players shine even brighter. Goal accomplished.

3. We traded him and got draft picks in return, who helped us win 3 SBs in 4 years.


I personally put Drew Henson ahead of Carter as far as worst draft pick for the QB position. At least Carter lead us to the playoffs. Henson was a waste of a draft pick and basically amounted to a heaping pile of pigeon guano.

 

[tyke1doe]

From 1960 through 1966 the NFL held a Draft and so did the AFL. So we competed against other teams for players. For instance, Roger Staubach was also drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1964. Our 1st round pick in 1964 was Scott Appleton. he never played a down for the Cowboys because he chose the Oilers of the AFL over us.

In 1967 the Drafts were combined as a precursor to the merge. So using that year as a litmus test just means you are assured of a level playing field for the discussion.

Dang, you smart.