News: DMN: George: Why I think Cowboys will go cornerback, not quarterback, in draft's first round

[Dhragon]

This logic is why I think JJ will go hard after either RGIII or Manziel this offseason and grab a QB later in the draft. He wants to put an impact player on the field starting week one while Romo is still his QB. They will grab Treadwell, Bosa or one of the DBs, possibly trading out for more picks.

Yet NO position drafted usually makes an immediate impact on a team during it's rookie season. It usually takes at least a year. O-Line and WRs as of late seem to be the only real exceptions. So unless they take Treadwell, probably aren't getting a real impact player for 2016 regardless.

 

[Dhragon]

I'd like to punch Brandon George right in the face.

Felt the same way.

 

[jterrell]

Struggle to follow George's logic here.
He wants to win now but pass on keeping the CBs we have to draft a rookie that may break even or be worse?

Call me crazy but I'd say win now means adding talent where we are fully bereft.

You can't sell me a CB at 4 that is definitely better than Scandrick next year while arguing a #2 WR or QB is a bad thing.
They don't have to stay #2 forever

 

[RS12]

My personal opinion is that they need to draft Cardale Jones in the 4th round or so for the future. They also need to bring in JFF, RG3 and keep Moore to battle it out for the backup QB position.

Your confidence level in Wade Wilson developing Cardale Jones or JFB? Mine is zero.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I have yet to see any team go from worst to first on the back of a top ten stud cornerback.

I mean sure.

And nobody has suggested otherwise.

But by all means don't let the facts get in the way.

Personally I think Ramsey would be a great pick because i'm of the belief you take the best player available.

 

[Alexander]

I mean sure.

And nobody has suggested otherwise.

But by all means don't let the facts get in the way.

Personally I think Ramsey would be a great pick because i'm of the belief you take the best player available.

Tell me the facts on how top 10 CBs have paid off in overall team success. I am all ears.

And how is Ramsey the best pick when there is not even a consensus if he is a corner or safety?

 

[Dwight]

Drafting a cornerback in the first round in my opinion will set this franchise back between four to five years.

I'm hoping Jerry decides to go another route but I know he will do it.

Jalen Ramsey is who Jerry probably wants. That would be a nightmare pick if that occurs.

 

[RS12]

Honestly I think Jerry has been dropping QB hints since they got the high pick. The question is who does Cleveland want, and is another team looking to trade into the number 1 or 3 spot to grab a QB.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

My personal opinion is that they need to draft Cardale Jones in the 4th round or so for the future. They also need to bring in JFF, RG3 and keep Moore to battle it out for the backup QB position.

My biggest problem with this idea though is that JFF, RG3, and Moore are all QBs that need to be in a west coast style offense sort of like what Joe Montana used to run. Good shifty back, zone block, lots of QB movement and quick RAC WRs with primary short throws and deep threats when they start cheating up.

Unfortunately Garrett is of the -- needs a pocket QB -- style offense with a dominant running game. Romo is in more of the Brett Farve mold, and can utilize some of the timing throws and lots of the multi read stuff. Unfortunately for Dallas, those QB's are few and far between.

My reason for Cardale Jones is that he could come in an sit behind Romo for three to four years, and learn, but already has the physical tools to play really either style offense. He is big enough, and with a strong enough arm to play the timing style offense, but still have enough athleticism to play like a Cam Newton style offense as well.

With that said, I don't think Cardale Jones is a first rounder, so I think you draft the best defensive player available in the first round. I would probably draft the best defensive players available in the first three rounds. Then give me Cardale Jones and Jakeem Grant in the mid rounds. Give me the Matthews center from Texas A&M right after them.

My personal belief is that no matter what, you won't win a Superbowl with Jason Garrett anyway because he wants it his way instead of him adapting to do what is the best of the players he has. Adapt to the strengths of the players you have instead of the RKG way. Dallas hasn't had a lack of talent -- heck Christine Michael being the leading rusher in Minn at -3 degrees and in this game rushed for more yards than AP proves that to me. I just don't think Jason Garrett can utilize talent unless that talent is both what "he" wants and it fits "his" scheme to perfection.

You can't compare Michael from his Seattle game and his time here. Michael only got a couple carries here while in Seattle he was the main guy. McFadden was the starter and I wouldn't trade Michaels game for McFaddens games

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Drafting a cornerback in the first round in my opinion will set this franchise back between four to five years.

I'm hoping Jerry decides to go another route but I know he will do it.

Jalen Ramsey is who Jerry probably wants. That would be a nightmare pick if that occurs.

I don't think so, Ramsey projects at safety in the pros not CB. We have a need at safety and if we draft Ramsey it will be for safety not CB. If you want CB you get Hargreaves

 

[Dalmations202]

Your confidence level in Wade Wilson developing Cardale Jones or JFB? Mine is zero.

I have no confidence in any of the Dallas coaches at the present time. While I think they can be successful, I don't think any of them are better than the other coaches out there. I think the Dallas Cowboys are usually out-coached on a weekly level, and I think they go as far as their talent level and degree of injury will take them.

I do think Cardale Jones though could play several different styles though due to his size and athleticism, as well as the strength of his arm.

 

[pjtoadie]

Honestly I think Jerry has been dropping QB hints since they got the high pick. The question is who does Cleveland want, and is another team looking to trade into the number 1 or 3 spot to grab a QB.

I think Cleveland goes Goff. The rumors are that SF really likes Goff but I doubt they try to trade for the #1. Look at what Washington gave up to get RG3 to move up to #2. Now if Cleveland somehow goes with Lynch or Bosa then I can see SF trying hard to trade with SD for the #3 pick for Goff. Other than that I don't see another team trading up to take a QB.

 

[Dalmations202]

You can't compare Michael from his Seattle game and his time here. Michael only got a couple carries here while in Seattle he was the main guy. McFadden was the starter and I wouldn't trade Michaels game for McFaddens games

My point wasn't that Michael was better or worse than McFadden. My point was that he does have talent even if Jason Garrett wouldn't play him. He even had enough talent to fair better than AP in one game when the temp was massively cold. He didn't get enough carries in Dallas to even have a chance to show if he is better or worse than DMC. Let's face it, he was thrust upon Garrett and either he or Linehan didn't like him, and neither were going to go out of their way to adjust to his strengths. IMO, this is the greatest weakness of the Cowboys coaching staff -- the inability to adjust to their players strengths.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

My point wasn't that Michael was better or worse than McFadden. My point was that he does have talent even if Jason Garrett wouldn't play him. He even had enough talent to fair better than AP in one game when the temp was massively cold. He didn't get enough carries in Dallas to even have a chance to show if he is better or worse than DMC. Let's face it, he was thrust upon Garrett and either he or Linehan didn't like him, and neither were going to go out of their way to adjust to his strengths. IMO, this is the greatest weakness of the Cowboys coaching staff -- the inability to adjust to their players strengths.

Haha I stopped at Michael better then AP

 

[Dwight]

I don't think so, Ramsey projects at safety in the pros not CB. We have a need at safety and if we draft Ramsey it will be for safety not CB. If you want CB you get Hargreaves

I feel that its time for this team to go into another route. Dallas needs a QB, WR, RB, RT and DT more than a DB right now.

I'm tired of management putting too many resources into the secondary which have not given our team the desire results that we need.

 

[bodi]

that would be a BIG mistake IMO

when are we going to have a chance to sit a QB for at a least a year AGAIN

20 More fin years

 

[gmoney112]

I feel that its time for this team to go into another route. Dallas needs a QB, R, RB, RT and DT more than a DB right now.

I'm tired of management putting too many resources into the secondary which have not given our team the desire results that we need.

Jeff Heath led the DB's in ints. With Carr overpaid, Mo hitting FA, and our safeties being terrible, secondary is a need.

I'd like to purge half the secondary and get a new attitude back there.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I feel that its time for this team to go into another route. Dallas needs a QB, WR, RB, RT and DT more than a DB right now.

I'm tired of management putting too many resources into the secondary which have not given our team the desire results that we need.

We can use talent on every level. You can't reach for players because you have them at more pressing need. If lynch or any of those players are the highest in the board take them but if Hargreaves or Ramsey is highest-rated then I have no problem taking them.

Use free agency to fill holes but in the draft you take best player on the board regardless of position. Don't reach. If trade back then pick up that guy do it. We need talent period

 

[Dwight]

We can use talent on every level. You can't reach for players because you have them at more pressing need. If lynch or any of those players are the highest in the board take them but if Hargreaves or Ramsey is highest-rated then I have no problem taking them.

Use free agency to fill holes but in the draft you take best player on the board regardless of position. Don't reach. If trade back then pick up that guy do it. We need talent period

You are correct that the team needs talent on every level. I never stated that our team needs to reach for players.

If a cornerback is the only talent on the board then I'm ok with the pick (but I prefer to trade down and gain more picks). However, if there is a talented QB, WR, DT, RT, or DE (depending on if Hardy is gone) available when Dallas is up to pick and there is a CB too, I prefer the team to select one of those positions I mention instead of a cornerback.

The team has gotten burnt selecting DBs in the first rounds since drafting Mike Jenkins (CB) years ago. It's time to take a different approach. You can find quality corners in the middle rounds like Scandrick and Sherman (I state that every time though). The QB, WR and Dline must be address if the talent is there when Dallas picks. If Jerry avoids taking a talented QB and picks a CB it will set our team back.

 

[Dwight]

Jeff Heath led the DB's in ints. With Carr overpaid, Mo hitting FA, and our safeties being terrible, secondary is a need.

I'd like to purge half the secondary and get a new attitude back there.

I like to purge the coaching staff and get a new attitude back as well but that's not going to happen.

The secondary was nothing to brag about however, if Hardy is not resign you will have more negative comments about the secondary or the defense as a whole.

Remember the defense wasn't the problem. The defense does need a DT, (maybe a DE), LB, & S. But the offense not generating points was the problem.

And if the offense scored points, we would have been in the playoffs in my opinion.

A talented QB is needed over a DB.