News: DMN: George: Why I think Cowboys will go cornerback, not quarterback, in draft's first round

[gmoney112]

I like to purge the coaching staff and get a new attitude back as well but that's not going to happen.

The secondary was nothing to brag about however, if Hardy is not resign you will have more negative comments about the secondary or the defense as a whole.

Remember the defense wasn't the problem. The defense does need a DT, (maybe a DE), LB, & S. But the offense not generating points was the problem.

And if the offense scored points, we would have been in the playoffs in my opinion.

A talented QB is needed over a DB.

I don't disagree. But I think secondary is second only to backup QB. We could really use 2 new starters in the secondary, if we truly want a defense that can change the game against top offenses. Turnover differential might be the leading factor in w/l.

I'm all for QB in the first. But don't be surprised if we take 2 secondary players in the draft. 2nd and 4th round are good targets. 3rd round imo should be RB.

We got destroyed by basic seam routes up the middle this year. Mainly because Church can't man up. Safety and CB are definite needs. There should be a lot of guys in the 2nd and 4th that will probably be BPA.
Give me some physical secondary guys that can tackle and play the ball over a DT. I'd sign my DT in FA.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You are correct that the team needs talent on every level. I never stated that our team needs to reach for players.

If a cornerback is the only talent on the board then I'm ok with the pick (but I prefer to trade down and gain more picks). However, if there is a talented QB, WR, DT, RT, or DE (depending on if Hardy is gone) available when Dallas is up to pick and there is a CB too, I prefer the team to select one of those positions I mention instead of a cornerback.

The team has gotten burnt selecting DBs in the first rounds since drafting Mike Jenkins (CB) years ago. It's time to take a different approach. You can find quality corners in the middle rounds like Scandrick and Sherman (I state that every time though). The QB, WR and Dline must be address if the talent is there when Dallas picks. If Jerry avoids taking a talented QB and picks a CB it will set our team back.

Last season the CBs that went in the first round played extremely well. We also have a Terence Newman that played well. Jenkins wasn't terrible until he had the shoulder injury so not sure that hate. Sure Claiborne hasn't been all pro but I can't say we have had total bust in the first with CB. Jones played everywhere in the secondary and shut down Gronk as a rookie.

Depends on free agency I think and Hargreaves would be hard not to take

 

[Dwight]

I don't disagree. But I think secondary is second only to backup QB. We could really use 2 new starters in the secondary, if we truly want a defense that can change the game against top offenses. Turnover differential might be the leading factor in w/l.

I'm all for QB in the first. But don't be surprised if we take 2 secondary players in the draft. 2nd and 4th round are good targets. 3rd round imo should be RB.

We got destroyed by basic seam routes up the middle this year. Mainly because Church can't man up. Safety and CB are definite needs. There should be a lot of guys in the 2nd and 4th that will probably be BPA.
Give me some physical secondary guys that can tackle and play the ball over a DT. I'd sign my DT in FA.

We agree on the QB. I'm okay with drafting corners in the third to fifth rounds depending on the situation and if they are best player available. I still feel that a DT is more important than a Safety and Cornerback though.

In reference to Church, I prefer an upgrade at the position.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Tell me the facts on how top 10 CBs have paid off in overall team success. I am all ears.

And how is Ramsey the best pick when there is not even a consensus if he is a corner or safety?

Obviously we are early in the process. And much will come in the days of evaluation to come.

And I keep hearing stupid things like "when has a team with two stud wrs won" or "when has a top 10 CBs paid off in overall team success" and an old favorite "running qbs have never won the superbowl!"

It's all useless microanalysis. A team can win the superbowl with markedly different constructions. Teams have done exactly that in the history of the big game. The draft is but one part of an offseason and but one part of roster construction. You build a "superbowl worthy" team by maximizing every avenue of talent acquisition.

In a macro-sense the draft shouldn't be about filling needs it should be about grabbing the best available talent. Obviously it is more nuanced than that when you consider ranking prospects by tiers.

But in the draft one should be agnostic and just continually grab the best talent available to them. Use free agency and internal player development and improvement to fill holes. Craft a systems to maximize the talent you have....not the talent you wish you had.

I would have thought you'd know this.

 

[Dwight]

Last season the CBs that went in the first round played extremely well. We also have a Terence Newman that played well. Jenkins wasn't terrible until he had the shoulder injury so not sure that hate. Sure Claiborne hasn't been all pro but I can't say we have had total bust in the first with CB. Jones played everywhere in the secondary and shut down Gronk as a rookie.

Depends on free agency I think and Hargreaves would be hard not to take

I'm not debating that about those teams (Vikings and Chiefs) who selected those CBs but they have very solid front sevens before they drafted those CBs. So drafting a cornerback for them would not be an issue. I'm not backtracking by the way.

But compare our front seven defense to both teams and I feel they have the advantage.

My philosophy is that you have to take care of your front seven and then look into cornerback and safety positions.

I just believe in the trenches.

 

[Cover 2]

Jeff Heath led the DB's in ints. With Carr overpaid, Mo hitting FA, and our safeties being terrible, secondary is a need.

I'd like to purge half the secondary and get a new attitude back there.

We already did that a few years ago when we traded up for Clairborne (#6 overall) and signed Brandon Carr in free agency. We were then "fortunate" enough to end up with the "No Fly Zone."

I'd rather take a quarterback, assuming he matches his spot on the board, so that we hopefully have good quarterback play for the next 15+ years. The author of the article stated that they need to draft to win now because of Romo's age and health. If we can find Romo's successor, we won't be forced to make desperate moves in order to win within a 2-3 year window.

To be honest though, I wouldn't be shocked if the Front Office agreed with your take over mine.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I'm not debating that about those teams (Vikings and Chiefs) who selected those CBs but they have very solid front sevens before they drafted those CBs. So drafting a cornerback for them would not be an issue. I'm not backtracking by the way.

But compare our front seven defense to both teams and I feel they have the advantage.

My philosophy is that you have to take care of your front seven and then look into cornerback and safety positions.

I just believe in the trenches.

I believe in trenches too. The only spot on DL we need is DT. We have spent high picks 2 years running on DE, I much prefer LB over DE. That being said Hargreaves might be number 2 overall talent wise so how can you pass that up? Would you take Patrick Peterson at 4 if he is there? I would.

I feel we have some good young talent at DE and Dallas doesn't like DT high in the draft.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I am not taking a CB in the top 5 unless he is the second coming of Deion Sanders.

I see no Deion Sanders in this draft...................ergo, taking said CB in top 5 would be monumentally stupid.

If you don't want a QB, take Treadwell. At least he will help open up the running game and pull coverage off Dez.

 

[Hardline]

Yet NO position drafted usually makes an immediate impact on a team during it's rookie season. It usually takes at least a year. O-Line and WRs as of late seem to be the only real exceptions. So unless they take Treadwell, probably aren't getting a real impact player for 2016 regardless.

Add Ezekiel Elliott to that immediate impact list.

 

[Hardline]

If you want to improve the defensive back feild then improve your front 7.
The back feild will improve as the front 7 does. It's all about the trenches.

 

[Dhragon]

I am not taking a CB in the top 5 unless he is the second coming of Deion Sanders.

I see no Deion Sanders in this draft...................ergo, taking said CB in top 5 would be monumentally stupid.

If you don't want a QB, take Treadwell. At least he will help open up the running game and pull coverage off Dez.

Cowboys thought Claiborne was the second coming of Deion Sanders - just saying!

 

[Floatyworm]

I'd like to punch Brandon George right in the face.

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Get your QB......don't mess around

 

[gmoney112]

If you want to improve the defensive back feild then improve your front 7.
The back feild will improve as the front 7 does. It's all about the trenches.

Name one good defense that hasn't invested in their secondary (solid investments, not the busts we have).

All good defenses have players at every level.

I believe in trenches too. The only spot on DL we need is DT. We have spent high picks 2 years running on DE, I much prefer LB over DE. That being said Hargreaves might be number 2 overall talent wise so how can you pass that up? Would you take Patrick Peterson at 4 if he is there? I would.

I feel we have some good young talent at DE and Dallas doesn't like DT high in the draft.

I'd take PP at 4, but Hargreaves isn't Peterson. It's not even close.

 

[DC Cowboy]

My personal opinion is that they need to draft Cardale Jones in the 4th round or so for the future. They also need to bring in JFF, RG3 and keep Moore to battle it out for the backup QB position.

My biggest problem with this idea though is that JFF, RG3, and Moore are all QBs that need to be in a west coast style offense sort of like what Joe Montana used to run. Good shifty back, zone block, lots of QB movement and quick RAC WRs with primary short throws and deep threats when they start cheating up.

Unfortunately Garrett is of the -- needs a pocket QB -- style offense with a dominant running game. Romo is in more of the Brett Farve mold, and can utilize some of the timing throws and lots of the multi read stuff. Unfortunately for Dallas, those QB's are few and far between.

My reason for Cardale Jones is that he could come in an sit behind Romo for three to four years, and learn, but already has the physical tools to play really either style offense. He is big enough, and with a strong enough arm to play the timing style offense, but still have enough athleticism to play like a Cam Newton style offense as well.

With that said, I don't think Cardale Jones is a first rounder, so I think you draft the best defensive player available in the first round. I would probably draft the best defensive players available in the first three rounds. Then give me Cardale Jones and Jakeem Grant in the mid rounds. Give me the Matthews center from Texas A&M right after them.

My personal belief is that no matter what, you won't win a Superbowl with Jason Garrett anyway because he wants it his way instead of him adapting to do what is the best of the players he has. Adapt to the strengths of the players you have instead of the RKG way. Dallas hasn't had a lack of talent -- heck Christine Michael being the leading rusher in Minn at -3 degrees and in this game rushed for more yards than AP proves that to me. I just don't think Jason Garrett can utilize talent unless that talent is both what "he" wants and it fits "his" scheme to perfection.

This is my point as well b/c I think that whatever QB we get will sit 2-3 years be it a vet or rookie. I know I have my opinion just like everyone else but if I could get Jones in the 3rd or later rounds, and have him sit for a year or two, I could improve my D with the first 2 picks (stud DT or CB). I know others will disagree with this but please provide me with some concrete evidence this wouldn't work other than saying he is awful. He has Newton/Luck type speed, has an NFL arm, size, and is mobile ala Cam. I think if developed correctly he would open your play book to almost run any play you want, read option .... Now I can see if you make the argument we don't have the coaches to develop him.