DMN: Josh Brent won't play in 2013

[TheMarathonContinues]

You would think the first reaction out of the Cowboys front office would be to cut Brent and make an example out of him. Instead their reaction is, "When can he play again?". The next month another player gets involved in the same kind of incident who you have the opportunity to show that the character of the Cowboys shouldn't be questioned and again they put football above the morality of what he did. Just classless.

Its not about "When can he play again...". They are being sensitive here. Josh Brent's life is already ruined. They are doing their best as a organization, as his employer and as his family to handle this situation the best for all parties. Josh Brent didn't want to step on that field that Sunday. Garrett and Jerry didn't know about him stepping on that field prior to seeing him. You guys are always looking for ways to crap on this organization. There are plenty of other things you can latch on too.

 

[Idgit]

This isn't meant to sound cruel, but the Brown family, as well meaning as their stance was concerning Brent, shouldn't have been allowed to influence the organization's decision about his role going forward. Whether the top guys knew it or not, Brent shouldn't have been on the sidelines that day. His irresponsible and selfish act caused another person to die. I've felt this pain personally, and I don't apologize for my thinking on this subject.

Their wishes for the organization to continue to support Brent could have been born in other avenues. Parading him on the sideline was just in very poor taste by the Cowboys.

Since this is an issue that touches some people personally, and I don't have a dog in the fight, I"m happy to just agree to disagree.

I think the Cowboys having Brent on the sidelines was a well-intentioned PR disaster, fwiw.

And I have nothing but sympathy for both the Brent and Brown families. I'd note that Jerry Brown was sober, and got in a car with a drunk driver anyway. And that both players would probably be around today and neither even suspended if they'd both been wearing seatbelts.

It's just a terribly sad lack of judgement, all around. I just happen to feel bad for the parties and am not angry with either of them. Had they hit another vehicle and hurt anybody but themselves, I'd feel very differently.

 

[JakeCamp12]

Sometimes there has to be a human element to when someone does something completely wrong. We are all so fast to rush to judgment. Maybe we should just stand back and let the courts, NFL and the Cowboys front office handle it. I hope Josh turns his life around.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Clarence Hill ‏@clarencehilljr 33s
Per nfl spokesman Greg Aiello, the commish is not going to address Josh Brent's status after trial. Only then will cowboys get salary back

 

[03EBZ06]

Sometimes there has to be a human element to when someone does something completely wrong. We are all so fast to rush to judgment. Maybe we should just stand back and let the courts, NFL and the Cowboys front office handle it. I hope Josh turns his life around.

I don't think there is any rush to judgement in this case, it's pretty clear what he did. He drove drunk and his best friend is dead because of his actions.

 

[Idgit]

I don't think there is any rush to judgement in this case, it's pretty clear what he did. He drove drunk and his best friend is dead because of his actions.

Both young men drank, both got into a car with an inebriated driver, and then both drove unsafely without even putting their seatbelts on. Both used awful judgement, both could have died, and they could have easily killed others in the process, and both paid a heavy price for their mistakes. Jerry paid the heaviest price.

If Brent's able to put his life back together and have an NFL career as a result, he'll be able and obligated to help Jerry's young family financially. If he's a good enough player, that's the best possible outcome for everybody involved without regard to what mistakes were made.

 

[SportsGuru80]

This comes as no real surprise honestly... The man is facing prison time.

 

[03EBZ06]

Both young men drank, both got into a car with an inebriated driver, and then both drove unsafely without even putting their seatbelts on. Both used awful judgement, both could have died, and they could have easily killed others in the process, and both paid a heavy price for their mistakes. Jerry paid the heaviest price.

If Brent's able to put his life back together and have an NFL career as a result, he'll be able and obligated to help Jerry's young family financially. If he's a good enough player, that's the best possible outcome for everybody involved without regard to what mistakes were made.

What does all that has to do with rush to judgement? The fact is drunk driver killed a passenger in the car, yes passenger was drunk, but he wasn't driving.

I really don't care about any rationalization of what happened, i'm just talking about rush to judgement statement.

 

[Idgit]

What does all that has to do with rush to judgement? The fact is drunk driver killed a passenger in the car, yes passenger was drunk, but he wasn't driving.

I really don't care about any rationalization of what happened, i'm just talking about rush to judgement statement.

Well, I'll agree that there isn't a rush. It's just a harsh judgement.

The passenger had been drinking, by the way, but according to his autopsy, he wasn't even drunk. He should have been the one driving. More important, had he just worn his seat belt, he'd probably have survived the accident.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Jerry Brown's mom put the Cowboys in an awkard position. She meant well and I applaud her forgiving spirit, but it made the Cowboys damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Jason Garrett didn't know that Josh Brent the guy who made national headlines about killing a teammate was on the sideline? Pretty difficult to imagine.

To be clearer, neither the front office nor Garrett knew of the players' plan to bring Brent to the the sidelines as a show of support. Brent was a popular guy with the players and was considered a good all-around guy before the incident. Some fellow players wanted to help their friend and thought this would be a way to do it.

I don't know when Garrett or JJ noticed Brent on the sidelines. From what I remember, the TV crew showed him there and there was a mini-firestorm by Esiasons or someone. The front office got wind of it and phoned down and had him removed to the lockerroom.

I think it would be safe to assume that niether Garrett nor the front office would have approved Brent on the sidelines beforehand.

Personally, I had no problem with him being on the sidelines. His friends wanted to help him as best as they could do. Brent made a mistake, a huge mistake. But, his true friends were there for him. And that includes the mother of the son who was killed accidentally by Brent. If she doesn't have a problem with it, then neither should any other person in my book. And if you were able to ask Jerry Brown, he'd likely have no problem with it either.

 

[utrunner07]

So go against Brown's families wishes and not allow him on the field? Isn't that just as careless and unconcerning?

Nope, thats life. Actions have consequences. Brown's family meant well and good for them to forgive, but actions still have consequences and Brent CLEARLY did not learn the first time, perhaps that should be a sign that he needs some real consequences before it gets through his stupid head.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

The downsides of this wired world - we harp on things until the story is finally over.

Most likely nothing will happen until the trial.

Then Goodell will make his judgement.

It's going to be a few more months before those two rulings happen.

Based on the crime and Brent being a non-starter, I'm pessimistic he plays again - we'll see.

 

[utrunner07]

And that includes the mother of the son who was killed accidentally by Brent. If she doesn't have a problem with it, then neither should any other person in my book. And if you were able to ask Jerry Brown, he'd likely have no problem with it either.

Uh yeah, except the problem is Brent did not only endanger HER son's life, he endangered every person's life he drove by or around that night. There should be consequences for his actions, period. He can be forgiven and at the same time experience consequences.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

The fact many of us have driven intoxicated and are Cowboy's fans are preventing a fair look at this upcoming case. Any prosecuting attorney seeing some of the posts here would never allow some of the members feeling for Brent. In a way I do, but there are also consequences. Believe me, I've suffered consequences for things I've done.

 

[T-RO]

I don't think the front office or Garrett knew about it. Some players thought it was a good idea and brought him onto the field.

Of course the front office knew about it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This isn't meant to sound cruel, but the Brown family, as well meaning as their stance was concerning Brent, shouldn't have been allowed to influence the organization's decision about his role going forward. Whether the top guys knew it or not, Brent shouldn't have been on the sidelines that day. His irresponsible and selfish act caused another person to die. I've felt this pain personally, and I don't apologize for my thinking on this subject.

They have just as much right and influence as anybody else's opinion not named Jerry Jones and I do not apologize for my opinion on this either.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Of course the front office knew about it.

What makes you think that? I don't think the front office knew about it. If they did, they surely would have checked with the league and Goodell beforehand.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Apparently, Goodell might rule before the courts after all - my bad. :

And soon.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...t-ruling-expected-soon-wont-play-for-cowboys/

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think he will ever play again.