DMN/Mosley/FWST BLOG: Tidbits from the Senior Bowl... Staff updates

[Kilyin]

Granted this is the only source I could find, but I'd read it a couple places.

Houck said in his PC he never considered retiring.

 

[LowTech]

Sounds like BSPN reporting as normal, trying to stir up trouble.


"One other nugget that will interest Cowboys fans: I've been told by two different sources that Phillips wanted to hire former Chiefs offensive coordinator Mike Solari to coach the offensive line, but was trumped by owner Jerry Jones, who opted for Hudson Houck"

 

[WoodysGirl]

Houck said in his PC he never considered retiring.

Gotcha.

Tho, on the flip side of that, you don't go to your new employer and say "I was gonna retire, but the $$$ was too good to pass up"

 

[theogt]

I doubt he was either. Just like I doubt Gailey or Campo minded too much when Jerry made all the decisions for them. They, like Wade, were just happy to have a job.

Coaches like Johnson would never put up with this crap. Which is likely the main reason he bolted when he did.

So, your argument boils down to it being a bad personnel move to hire Houck?

Could you explain why you think it was a bad hire?

 

[Bach]

So, your argument boils down to it being a bad personnel move to hire Houck?

Could you explain why you think it was a bad hire?

You really should hone up on your reading comprehension skills.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Not to derail this thread, but this is the closest picture I've ever seen of the Eifel Tower.

It immediately reminded of the American Warewolf in Paris movie that came out about 10 years ago. In the first few minutes of the movie, the three guy characters are shown getting ready to bungee jump off the top of the tower.

Well, that just makes no sense, as teh base of the tower is significantly wider than the top. If they jumped off, they'd bounce off the tower, likely killing themselves.

Gorgeous isn't it? I have yet to make it to Paris, but will soon enough. The Pantheon in Romo is awe inspiring too along with the Colosseum. The picture I think of most when I think about the Eiffel Tower is the one with Hitler standing in front of it.

It just gives me a chilling effect seeing it.

As a side note, you can control your direction in a skydive to avoid the sides of the tower. As for bungee jumping. Well, I want no part of that!

 

[theogt]

You really should hone up on your reading comprehension skills.

Your argument was that it was a bad decision because he was overriding the coach, regardless of the merits of the decision. Yet the coach was happy with the decision. So, basically the only thing left is that you could possibly think that it was a bad decision, no?

I mean, is there some alternative I'm missing?

 

[khiladi]

Either way, I like the Houck hire. With us losing so many coaches it was good to hire a coach that is already familiar with the front office and has actually coached one of the players before (Flo).

Not only the front-office, but the guy who is actually the play-caller for the offense. Jason Garrett's offense is based upon what we ran in the early 90s. Houck was a natural fit for this offense, and continuity is something that won't be lacking.

 

[Bach]

Your argument was that it was a bad decision because he was overriding the coach, regardless of the merits of the decision. Yet the coach was happy with the decision. So, basically the only thing left is that you could possibly think that it was a bad decision, no?

I mean, is there some alternative I'm missing?

Most HC's worth anything wouldn't be too happy if they can't hire their own staff. If Wade is "happy" with Jerry doing so, then that says a lot about him and doesn't say much about what Jerry thinks about him.

I can't think of too many reasons why a GM would hire a HC and then not trust the HC enough to hire his own coaching staff.

 

[theogt]

Most HC's worth anything wouldn't be too happy if they can't hire their own staff.

That's funny. Then why do most coaches not have "final say" over their coaching staff?

If Wade is "happy" with Jerry doing so, then that says a lot about him and doesn't say much about what Jerry thinks about him.

Are you saying that if Wade and Jerry don't agree on everything that means that both Wade and Jerry are idiots? Or is Jerry right here and Wade wrong? Or is Wade right and Jerry wrong?

I can't think of too many reasons why a GM would hire a HC and then not trust the HC enough to hire his own coaching staff.

There must be some because that's how it's done throughout the NFL.

 

[AbeBeta]

One other nugget that will interest Cowboys fans: I've been told by two different sources that Phillips wanted to hire former Chiefs offensive coordinator Mike Solari to coach the offensive line, but was trumped by owner Jerry Jones, who opted for Hudson Houck

so much for letting Wade choose his staff

 

[Bach]

That's funny. Then why do most coaches not have "final say" over their coaching staff.

There must be some because that's how it's done throughout the NFL.

I think most coaches do have primary say over their own staffs. I know that there's instances where a new HC comes on board and retains some of the previous staff. But I doubt there's too many instances that a HC wants to hire an assistant and he gets overridden.

And just because there may be other idiots in the league, like Al Davis, Danny Snyder, Mike Brown, that doesn't mean we need to follow their example.

 

[khiladi]

You mean Bill Parcells didn't fire the coaching staff before Sparano came in? Maybe Sparano would have liked to retain some of their services....

 

[theogt]

I think most coaches do have primary say over their own staffs. I know that there's instances where a new HC comes on board and retains some of the previous staff. But I doubt there's too many instances that a HC wants to hire an assistant and he gets overridden.

You may think that's the case, but you really have no idea. Teams hire GMs and give them final say for a reason.

You mean Bill Parcells didn't fire the coaching staff before Sparano came in? Maybe Sparano would have liked to retain some of their services....

Not to mention hire his own QB coach. The HORROR!!!!!

 

[Rack]

Not only the front-office, but the guy who is actually the play-caller for the offense. Jason Garrett's offense is based upon what we ran in the early 90s. Houck was a natural fit for this offense, and continuity is something that won't be lacking.

Good point. I hadn't even thought of that one.

 

[Chief]

I didn't realize there was a Dallas connection with Solari. When did Mike Solari work in Dallas? I thought he was too young to have worked here pre-Jerry.

I'm about 90-something-percent sure Solari was a special teams coach at Dallas late in Landry's career.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Like ddh said, I wouldn't immediately assume it's true that Wade preferred Solari. He sure seemed happy with Houck at the PC from when they worked together at San Diego.

If nothing else, Wade was probably like most of us -- maybe he had a slight preference for one or the other, but both are excellent hires so he'd be happy with either.

The big picture story is that Jerry and Wade are getting outstanding coaches to want to come and work for them. That's a far cry from the bad old days of settling for scraps like Dave Campo. In all likelihood, our coaching staff after this Parcells raid is going to be BETTER than what we had before.

 

[Bach]

I'm about 90-something-percent sure Solari was a special teams coach at Dallas late in Landry's career.

1987-1988

 

[Bach]

You may think that's the case, but you really have no idea.

And you're some kind of guru? Hardly.

 

[theogt]

And you're some kind of guru? Hardly.

I'm not the one making the claim. Generally if I think something is good or bad and make a claim based on that, I tend to have some reasoning behind it that can be substantiated.