DMN: NFL VP of Officiating: It’s not unreasonable to watch everything Dez did and think

[5Stars]

Great do us all a favor and put everyone on ignore that way all you can see is the 1% of idiots that agree with your BS.

Never wrong...

 

[DallasEast]

I'm doing myself a favor you've just been put out to pasture. Watch out for all the turds out there.

Fascinating. First, it was the strange unceasing trend of reposting and capitalizing the word "fan." Now, there is some type of misconceived fixation on the phrase "put out to pasture." Weird but interesting.

 

[nathanlt]

The rule book supports the decision. There are plenty of words that do so. I proved that in a different thread.

Unless you were able to rewrite the rule PRIOR to Dez making the catch, you've proven NOTHING. Blandino has never written any definition of contacting the ground to be MORE than an ELBOW or KNEE. You're wrong. Stephen Jones has not changed was was written, either. So he's wrong too.

Words mean things, and nothing was written to support this new concept.

 

[jobberone]

Not going thru this thread right now as I'm too damn busy. So if another mod has stepped in please forgive. Not going to delete posts as it appears there is an avalanche of them. So forgive again.

Notice to cease and desist:

If some of you don't stop with the insults, derailing the thread, etc then you will take a vacation.

Please, debate and discuss as reasonable adults.

 

[Zordon]

Let me know if you get the chance. I want to take Blandino to go watch!

lol

 

[jobberone]

Please, don't discuss putting people on ignore nor reply to it. It's there to use or not. We don't need members brandishing it or bantering back and forth.

 

[Roadtrip635]

What I took out of that interview is "It doesn't matter if it's wrong, as long as it's consistent."

smh

 

[djmajestik]

/thread

You don't understand the rule. You simply love to say, "By rule..." When, of course, you haven't actually read it. I fully understand the written rule, and how inadequate it is to justify how they are using it. Apparently, Blandino intends to use that rule for things he dares not write down. NFL, put the end of the process in defined terms, or go back to simplicity. Taking away a catch that had 3 steps inbounds, then two elbows, BEFORE THE BALL EVER CONTACTED THE GROUND, IS TAMPERING.

Not to mention, there were SEVEN football moves!

1. Dez secured the ball on his right shoulder with both hands.
2. Dez transferred the ball to his left hand, without wobble!
3. Dez took 3 steps toward the goal line.
4. Dez planked off his right foot.
5. Dez rotated his body more than 90 degrees, to shield off the defender
6. Dez braced and pivoted off his right arm, his right elbow touching the ground. (Play over at this point)
7. Dez stretched his left arm toward the goal line. (Which Blandino mentioned as not being enough of a football move) What????? that's just his inner Giant fan talking.

In addition, before the ball touched the ground, (and it did, i have the freeze frame to prove it) a split second before, his left elbow hit the ground. The football was still secure in his hand, and NEVER WOBBLED from securing it on his right shoulder, through and beyond the time his second elbow hit the ground. After the ball touched the ground, it reacted and came loose from his hand. At that point, though, he had been down by contact. Blandino is so incompetent, he needs to be fired.

 

[jobberone]

You don't understand the rule. You simply love to say, "By rule..." When, of course, you haven't actually read it. I fully understand the written rule, and how inadequate it is to justify how they are using it. Apparently, Blandino intends to use that rule for things he dares not write down. NFL, put the end of the process in defined terms, or go back to simplicity. Taking away a catch that had 3 steps inbounds, then two elbows, BEFORE THE BALL EVER CONTACTED THE GROUND, IS TAMPERING.

Not to mention, there were SEVEN football moves!

1. Dez secured the ball on his right shoulder with both hands.
2. Dez transferred the ball to his left hand, without wobble!
3. Dez took 3 steps toward the goal line.
4. Dez planked off his right foot.
5. Dez rotated his body more than 90 degrees, to shield off the defender
6. Dez braced and pivoted off his right arm, his right elbow touching the ground. (Play over at this point)
7. Dez stretched his left arm toward the goal line. (Which Blandino mentioned as not being enough of a football move) What????? that's just his inner Giant fan talking.

In addition, before the ball touched the ground, (and it did, i have the freeze frame to prove it) a split second before, his left elbow hit the ground. The football was still secure in his hand, and NEVER WOBBLED from securing it on his right shoulder, through and beyond the time his second elbow hit the ground. After the ball touched the ground, it reacted and came loose from his hand. At that point, though, he had been down by contact. Blandino is so incompetent, he needs to be fired.

Well done. Helluva catch!

 

[big dog cowboy]

You don't understand the rule. You simply love to say, "By rule..." When, of course, you haven't actually read it. I fully understand the written rule, and how inadequate it is to justify how they are using it. Apparently, Blandino intends to use that rule for things he dares not write down. NFL, put the end of the process in defined terms, or go back to simplicity. Taking away a catch that had 3 steps inbounds, then two elbows, BEFORE THE BALL EVER CONTACTED THE GROUND, IS TAMPERING.

Not to mention, there were SEVEN football moves!

1. Dez secured the ball on his right shoulder with both hands.
2. Dez transferred the ball to his left hand, without wobble!
3. Dez took 3 steps toward the goal line.
4. Dez planked off his right foot.
5. Dez rotated his body more than 90 degrees, to shield off the defender
6. Dez braced and pivoted off his right arm, his right elbow touching the ground. (Play over at this point)
7. Dez stretched his left arm toward the goal line. (Which Blandino mentioned as not being enough of a football move) What????? that's just his inner Giant fan talking.

In addition, before the ball touched the ground, (and it did, i have the freeze frame to prove it) a split second before, his left elbow hit the ground. The football was still secure in his hand, and NEVER WOBBLED from securing it on his right shoulder, through and beyond the time his second elbow hit the ground. After the ball touched the ground, it reacted and came loose from his hand. At that point, though, he had been down by contact. Blandino is so incompetent, he needs to be fired.

Somehow I missed this gem in a bucket full of crap posts. Nicely done!

 

[BlindFaith]

You did not prove a thing in that thread except not understanding how an exception to a rule is meant to be applied.

You certainly didn't disprove why the call on the field was the correct one according to the rules as they are written. You are stuck on your view of the play, which clearly the NFL and the Competition Committee don't agree with.

I did prove why it was ruled incomplete. Bottom line, hold on to the ball.

I also provided ways that the rule could be updated that would have made it a catch. I do think it should have been a catch, but based on the vagueness of the rule I fully understand how it was ruled incomplete. You simply don't understand the rules enough to see how they could come to that conclusion.

 

[percyhoward]

Wouldn't he just say that the 3 part process doesn't apply?

He would love to be able to say the catch process doesn't apply, which is why he changed the wording of the rule to eliminate the part about the catch process. His explanation of the Dez play was a dumpster fire that taught him a lesson -- specific rules require specific explanations. Make the rule as vague as possible, and future explanations won't be so messy.

 

[percyhoward]

Bottom line, hold on to the ball.

No, the idea isn't to stop players from trying to make great plays because as an official you can't keep up with their athleticism. According to a rule introduced in 1955, the ground can't cause a fumble. That was a good rule change back then, and it's sheer lunacy to go back sixty years and start advising players not to try to stretch for first downs or touchdowns because you're a PR guy with no game experience who doesn't know how to deal with certain nuances of officiating.

Bottom line, do your job.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't know why they continue to publish what this guy has to say. We all know that he's going to stick to his guns and refuse to admit that they screwed up on the call. We don't need new interviews, or anything, of him saying the exact same thing. He's stupid and he's shown that plenty already.

 

[KJJ]

It's only a week until training camp some of you really need to get over this.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's only a week until training camp some of you really need to get over this.

 

[KJJ]

I'll stay out of it so it doesn't turn into another food fight.

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[Beast_from_East]

It was a catch, plain and simple. There is no way you can leap up in the air, grab the ball with both hands, bring ball back to body, take 3 steps, stretch for goal line, and have that ruled an incomplete pass. It is just stupid to even suggest it.

However...........a TD there would have put us up by 2 points if I remember correctly with over 4 mins left in the game. We could not stop Rogers running around on one freaking leg. I don't think Green Bay even punted the entire second half. Do yall really think we would have kept them out of FG range?

Bottom line............we got screwed on a call and the previous week's controversy against Detroit probably influenced the decision. But that did not cost us the game, our sorry arse defense that could not stop a one-legged QB is what cost us the game............hence, why the improvements in pass rush this offseason with Hardy, Greogery, ect....

 

[nathanlt]

/thread

Well done. Helluva catch!

Somehow I missed this gem in a bucket full of crap posts. Nicely done!

Thanks!!! I was hoping to remind people that the wording of the rule supports Dez catching the ball, EVEN though the concept, "throughout the process of contacting the ground" was mentioned. There is no rule supporting taking that catch away. (Someone please get my post to Stephen Jones, he needs to actually see what the words mean, instead of taking Blandino's word for it!!!)

Blandino and KJJ still continue to talk about their "feelings" regarding the rule. It seems the focus has been mainly on who said what about the rules, but the little secret is that all the while, the words and letters in the rule spell....

CATCH!

 

[nathanlt]

It was a catch, plain and simple. There is no way you can leap up in the air, grab the ball with both hands, bring ball back to body, take 3 steps, stretch for goal line, and have that ruled an incomplete pass. It is just stupid to even suggest it.

However...........a TD there would have put us up by 2 points if I remember correctly with over 4 mins left in the game. We could not stop Rogers running around on one freaking leg. I don't think Green Bay even punted the entire second half. Do yall really think we would have kept them out of FG range?

Bottom line............we got screwed on a call and the previous week's controversy against Detroit probably influenced the decision. But that did not cost us the game, our sorry arse defense that could not stop a one-legged QB is what cost us the game............hence, why the improvements in pass rush this offseason with Hardy, Greogery, ect....

If Dallas couldn't have stopped Green Bay, fine. That's a separate issue. I would have LOVED to see what would have happened.

And we all were cheated out of seeing what would have happened, because the CATCH was taken away.