DMN: NFL VP of Officiating: It’s not unreasonable to watch everything Dez did and think

[5Stars]

I don't care what the definition is most of my opinions are based on facts not bias.

Of course you don't care...lol That is a fact!

 

[Plankton]

I don't care what the definition says most of my opinions are based on facts not bias.

It's OK to admit you're wrong about something. Really, it is.

And, with the statement above, you have spoken volumes.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't care what the definition is most of my opinions are based on facts not bias.

Merriam Webster has been publishing dictionaries since 1847. What would they know about lingual relevance?

 

[5Stars]

Here's the rule from the NFL Rule Book on Completing a Pass:

http://static.nfl.com/static/conten...pdfs/11_Rule8_ForwardPass_BackPass_Fumble.pdf

COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS
Article 3 Completed or Intercepted Pass.
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining
control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.).

Note 1: It is not necessary that he commit such an act, provided that he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.

Note 2: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered a loss of possession. He must lose
control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any part of his body other than his
hands to the ground, or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch.

Item 1: Player Going to the Ground.

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting
the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

To me, the underlined portion is significant here. When Bryant went to the ground, he had control of the ball. At the time he hit the ground, he had control of the ball. It was after he hit the ground that he lost control of it. In losing it, it never contacted the ground without him being in possession of it: it came loose, and he secured it before it hit the ground. On that basis, reading the rule as written, the play was a catch, and should have been a touchdown.

KJJ does not want to read that! It goes against his "honest" opinion, as if that is a fact! lmao

 

[KJJ]

It's OK to admit you're wrong about something. Really, it is.

And, with the statement above, you have spoken volumes.

I told you most of my opinions are based on facts not bias. If you're just looking for an argument look somewhere else.

 

[Plankton]

I told you most of my opinions are based on facts not bias. If you're just looking for an argument look somewhere else.

You writing that line is one of the most unintentionally hilarious statements ever posted on this forum.

 

[KJJ]

You writing that line is one of the most unintentionally hilarious statements ever posted on this forum.

It would be funny to you because you're just looking to stir something up. I'm arguing about the topic not the definition of opinion. If you want to argue that find someone else.

 

[Plankton]

I told you most of my opinions are based on facts not bias. If you're just looking for an argument look somewhere else.

And, your opinion is influenced by the facts that you choose to believe in. Hence, being biased. Everyone's opinion is biased.

 

[5Stars]

I told you most of my opinions are based on facts not bias. If you're just looking for an argument look somewhere else.

Oh, oh, Plankton...if he reads any more of your rational thinking that goes against his narcissism, you are going on ignore! lmao

Poor little KJJ...when he come looking for an argument and things go South on him...he come up with this little, "Buh-bye"!

 

[Plankton]

It would be funny to you because you're just looking to stir something up. I'm arguing about the topic not the definition of opinion. If you want to argue that find someone else.

Ever hear of the word irony?

 

[5Stars]

Ever hear of the word irony?

Post the definition of "irony" for him. He won't care...lol

 

[KJJ]

And, your opinion is influenced by the facts that you choose to believe in. Hence, being biased. Everyone's opinion is biased.

Are you normally this annoying or are you trying to impress me?

 

[5Stars]

Are you normally this annoying or are you trying to impress me?

Ohhh...is frustration setting in KJJ. You are starting to get a little testy here! I got it!

Call him a FAN! That should really make him mad!

lmao

 

[Plumfool]

The terms were there but they were subjective based on one's own personal opinion which is why they've been removed. There wasn't a clear definition of exactly what a "football move" is there was too much judgment involved in determining it. The NFL is trying to remove as much judgment from calls as possible.

Even the going to the ground rule is subjective. It reads:
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground.

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

What does it mean to be “in the act of catching a pass,” as opposed to having caught a pass? Because according to the Rules of a completed pass part (a) and (b) were satisfied.

 

[Plankton]

Are you normally this annoying or are you trying to impress me?

Annoying?

All I'm trying to do is get you to look at yourself and see how you are coming across. And, trying to correct errors where I see them. Clearly that's a lost cause.

And, no, I'm not trying to impress you. Your opinion of me or my posts matters very little in the grand scheme of things.

 

[KJJ]

And, your opinion is influenced by the facts that you choose to believe in. Hence, being biased. Everyone's opinion is biased.

My opinion is you picked out the perfect avatar for yourself and that's not based on any bias.

 

[KJJ]

Annoying?

All I'm trying to do is get you to look at yourself and see how you are coming across. And, trying to correct errors where I see them. Clearly that's a lost cause.

And, no, I'm not trying to impress you. Your opinion of me or my posts matters very little in the grand scheme of things.

How you or anyone else thinks I'm coming across makes no difference to me. The take some of you have on things is ridiculous just look through this thread. LOL

 

[Plankton]

My opinion is you picked out the perfect avatar for yourself and that's not based on any bias.

Avatar humor. Wow, there's some cutting edge stuff.

Glad you find humor in it.

 

[Plankton]

How you or anyone else thinks I'm coming across makes no difference to me. The take some of you have on things is ridiculous just look through this thread. LOL

Yet, you continue to reply.

Sounds like that irony thing popping up again.

 

[KJJ]

Avatar humor. Wow, there's some cutting edge stuff.

Glad you find humor in it.

I assume that's why you use it.