News: DMN: Source: Cowboys still have interest in free-agent DE Jason Jones

[Bullflop]

I've got a feeling that the Cowboys might very possibly attempt to fill their backup QB need with Dak Prescott in about the third round. Chances are, defense is likely to take precedence in the first two. It's also quite possible that another team could beat us to that 3rd round pick with a late 2nd round selection.

He seems a reasonably sound risk for a team that's not too desperate to sign a QB as an immediate starter. Trouble is, I believe there are quite a few teams that fall into that category. I'd like to see them get him in the third but waiting that late may be risky. I believe it's likely that he may continue to rise in the draft.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jones isn't much better than Crawford, if he is better at all. Crawford put up basically the same number of sacks as a rotation guy. No point throwing money at Jones.

J Crawford is more of an inside guy, where Jones has been primarily a DE. Jones has more experience and has been a decent DE vs. the run up to this point.

 

[jazzcat22]

I wouldn't mind Jones coming in. But not sure it puts an end to a stud DE type needed. But if it does, one can look at it that the offense will have no particular DE to key on and won't know who to double team if any. So someone may emerge from this group as being that DE.
Right now they would focus on Lawrence as being that guy.
so may Jones or someone else or a combination of players for the meantime can get some sacks and production. Until they start to gel to get a solid front 7.

This is where Ramsey may come into play if drafted. Strengthen the secondary to give the pass rush that extra few seconds.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

J Crawford is more of an inside guy, where Jones has been primarily a DE. Jones has more experience and has been a decent DE vs. the run up to this point.

The fact that Crawford is getting more sacks than him while playing inside should be a sign about how good he is. I guess another body can't hurt, but there is nothing special about him.

What about Freeney, who still can get to the QB?

 

[LittleD]

I wouldn't mind Jones coming in. But not sure it puts an end to a stud DE type needed. But if it does, one can look at it that the offense will have no particular DE to key on and won't know who to double team if any. So someone may emerge from this group as being that DE.
Right now they would focus on Lawrence as being that guy.
so may Jones or someone else or a combination of players for the meantime can get some sacks and production. Until they start to gel to get a solid front 7.

This is where Ramsey may come into play if drafted. Strengthen the secondary to give the pass rush that extra few seconds.

I too like the idea of Ramsey at pick #4 if he's there. We need a catalytic DE very badly right now but, there doesn't seem to be
any of those at the top of the draft this year. We also know that most DE's do not perform all that well their first year in the league.
I think Ramsey can easily be a catalytic player for us in the backfield and that would automatically put us in a better position with our
defensive line. Jerry should just turn in the card for him if he's there at 4. No messing around or trying to get cute.

 

[speedkilz88]

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The fact that Crawford is getting more sacks than him while playing inside should be a sign about how good he is. I guess another body can't hurt, but there is nothing special about him.

What about Freeney, who still can get to the QB?

No, I don't there's anything special about either of them. I could see Jones as the run-down guy at DE while Gregory/the kid from Oakland are the passing down guys.

 

[Sydla]

I'd like to see us still sign Jones.

 

[Craig]

I have confidence that they are going bpa...if bosa is their bpa they'll take him regardless of who else they sign.

 

[Plankton]

Signing Jones would give the Cowboys flexibility with the ability to be a base DE on run downs, and kick inside on passing downs. He would be a good addition this late in the process.

 

[viman96]

I still think we get Goff at #4, and honestly he is the most NFL ready.I will check Las Vegas for Romos under over,what say he makes 5 games this year.I really wish Romo would leave the game now while he can walk and enjoy his beautiful wife and kids.Really I am serious.Thats what I admired about Staubach and Aikman.

I bet Romo will have to be dragged kicking and screaming like Brett Favre and Jerry Rice. Tony is too much of a grinder to walk away.

 

[Idgit]

I have confidence that they are going bpa...if bosa is their bpa they'll take him regardless of who else they sign.

Yep. That's the point of this process, and they go through it every year. QB is the only position that confuses me this year, as we really did nothing. Either the FA options were just too expensive and we really like Moore, or they intend to get one high enough in the draft and find a vet to compete with Moore after that. Though that latter option is pretty weak sauce considering how big the dropoff is after Romo.

 

[Idgit]

I bet Romo will have to be dragged kicking and screaming like Brett Favre and Jerry Rice. Tony is too much of a grinder to walk away.

If he doesn't have another significant back injury, I think Romo will keep playing at a high level for a while. He plays through anything he can play through. The only thing that really sidelines him are broken bones, and that doesn't include ribs.

I do think he needs to specifically figure out how to bottle up the magic on some of the plays that leave him extended and absorbing big hits at the last minute. He can afford to be more of a bus driver if we finally put a talented defense around him, and if he does that, he can probably extend his career a fair bit.

 

[speedkilz88]

If he doesn't have another significant back injury, I think Romo will keep playing at a high level for a while. He plays through anything he can play through. The only thing that really sidelines him are broken bones, and that doesn't include ribs.

I do think he needs to specifically figure out how to bottle up the magic on some of the plays that leave him extended and absorbing big hits at the last minute. He can afford to be more of a bus driver if we finally put a talented defense around him, and if he does that, he can probably extend his career a fair bit.

He needs to learn how to fall. Landing flat on his back would be less punishing to his body than landing on one shoulder because he was trying to spin out of a sack.

 

[erod]

Not much option for Dallas. Bodies needed.

Gregory - suspended 4 games and counting with each toke
Hardy - loony bin
Mincey - gone

That leaves Lawrence, Russell, Mayowa, Irving, and Crawford, who is better suited inside.

Plus, I'm not feeling Bosa much, and I don't think they are either. I think Dallas is going to trade down if Ramsey isn't there or the QB they want.

 

[gimmesix]

If we sign him, I think it's safe to say we won't go Bosa or any DE at 4.

That will give us 5 defensive ends that are pretty much guaranteed a roster spot plus a couple other defensive linemen that can line up outside.

I agree. I think that would show we are more interested in holding the fort until we get Gregory back.

Realistically, we've got three ends right now: One starter (Lawrence) and two reserves (Crawford, Mayowa). There's no way we're counting on Russell or McAdoo at this point.

That means we need one more who can start until at least when we get Gregory back.

Now, I'm not necessarily a fan of going into the season with Lawrence, Crawford, Mayowa and Jones as our ends. I don't see that being much of a pressure group and I'm not sure at this point what Gregory adds to it. But I can't see us taking a DE at No. 4 if we essentially complete our roster allotments for the position by signing Jones.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yep. That's the point of this process, and they go through it every year. QB is the only position that confuses me this year, as we really did nothing. Either the FA options were just too expensive and we really like Moore, or they intend to get one high enough in the draft and find a vet to compete with Moore after that. Though that latter option is pretty weak sauce considering how big the dropoff is after Romo.

Did you see some of these backup types getting 7m+ in free agency?

It's exactly why we didn't do anything.

We have to come out of the draft with a thrower.

Just not one of these guys at 4.

If you traded back picked up a few 2nds and took Lynch later in the first I'd hold my nose but accept it.

I like him better than Goff (physically) and like him better than Wentz (tougher competition, younger and as good or better athlete).

 

[Idgit]

Did you see some of these backup types getting 7m+ in free agency?

It's exactly why we didn't do anything.

We have to come out of the draft with a thrower.

Just not one of these guys at 4.

If you traded back picked up a few 2nds and took Lynch later in the first I'd hold my nose but accept it.

I like him better than Goff (physically) and like him better than Wentz (tougher competition, younger and as good or better athlete).

I know. Chase Daniels (he was the guy I liked) getting 3yrs/$21MM or whatever it was from PHI was sobering. But that's the thing about QB: if you're capable of even winning a few games in succession in the league, you're getting $5-7M/season. Same goes for Hoyer if he shakes loose.

But the alternative is to go into the year with Kellen Moore again as your backup. And I like Moore ok as your QB3-competing-for-the-backup-job QB.

But QB2 hurt us last year. I know I've said in many threads that it was far from the only thing that hurt us, but it hurt us. We basically downgraded from Weeden, and I don't see a guy out there who's legitimate competition for Moore even, unless we're getting him in the first round of the draft.

Now, if we like a guy like Dak, ok, that's fine with me. He's a guy that can develop into a starter at some point maybe. But he gives us nothing at QB2 right now. And that's a position of fairly significant need. That game or two a QB2 might play could mean the difference in a playoff run for Romo and company this season, and we don't have too many of those potential runs left before we have to replace him completely.

 

[CATCH17]

Yep. That's the point of this process, and they go through it every year. QB is the only position that confuses me this year, as we really did nothing. Either the FA options were just too expensive and we really like Moore, or they intend to get one high enough in the draft and find a vet to compete with Moore after that. Though that latter option is pretty weak sauce considering how big the dropoff is after Romo.

If we draft Goff or Wentz then we'll look back on this offseason and realize that their actions told us all along what they were going to do.

After the season Stephen Jones said that backup QB was the top priority.

It's April and im not even sure if Moore is signed and there is no way he goes into next season as their only option.

 

[skinsscalper]

Yep. That's the point of this process, and they go through it every year. QB is the only position that confuses me this year, as we really did nothing. Either the FA options were just too expensive and we really like Moore, or they intend to get one high enough in the draft and find a vet to compete with Moore after that. Though that latter option is pretty weak sauce considering how big the dropoff is after Romo.

I'd like for Dallas to see what shakes out with Fitzpatrick or McCown. I know that sound s a little crazy considering Fitzpatrick is turning down half way decent money from the Jets, but the Jets want him to be the starter. He may just say screw you and take 5-6 million to be a back up. It's not likely but crazier things have happened.