News: DMN: Sturm: Breaking Down RB Ryan Williams

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Starting out, rotate series for 3 quarters and then ride the one with the hot hand to pay dirt in the fourth quarter. After some games are resolved if someone is consistently underperforming then reduce the rotation to 2. Bellcow is a false promise as evidenced by Murray breaking down at the end of the season. We need to keep a rotation to sustain performance.

I think Murray was less effective to end the season, but I also think teams completely dedicated to stopping him more as well.

Also, I felt like injuries to Martin were taking their toll and his chemistry with Parnell wasn't as good.


In summary- yes Murray wore down, but teams adjusted as well.
 

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Also, I felt like injuries to Martin were taking their toll and his chemistry with Parnell wasn't as good.

Impossible. This had to be Martin being hurt more than anything else.

Parnell was just unbeatable. Read it right here from someone who "studied the film".
 

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It wasn't some random person claiming this. Many media guys, some with close ties to the organization have said it.

I believe he also confirmed it directly in that 5-Points Blue/Kristie Scales interview about his shoe closet, too. Or else she said it in the pre-interview narration. Either way, I think a lot of teams actually *were* interested in him as a practice squad pickup for late in the season. He makes a lot of sense as a guy to stash for training camp if you don't have a back since he was a high pick and presumably fully rehabilitated at that point. He only didn't fit on our roster because we needed the ST play, but in camp, that's not really an issue until cut downs.
 

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...Parnell was just unbeatable. Read it right here from someone who "studied the film".

Which we all know is not as good as the alternative: hearing over and over again how beatable a guy actually is from somebody who didn't bother to study anything because he looks up to Mel Kiper and looks down on youtube.
 

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I think Murray was less effective to end the season, but I also think teams completely dedicated to stopping him more as well.

Also, I felt like injuries to Martin were taking their toll and his chemistry with Parnell wasn't as good.


In summary- yes Murray wore down, but teams adjusted as well.

Teams started using consistent 8+ man boxes from the second half of the second game versus the Titans. STL sold out as did Ryan and the Saints. Texans brought Swearingen down.

That was what was so impressive, we were ripping big gains into heavy boxes all year long. Martin's ankle injury hurt but when 29 broke his hand he spent the next several games going down as opposed to the guy that tried to truck S every time he got the ball.
 

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Williams was healthy all of last year, and the year before. He didn't play his last year in Arizona, he was a healthy scratch, so his injury history consists of a blown patellar tendon and a bum shoulder his first two years, (I think that how I saw it). The kid had all last year on the practice squad to learn the blitz pick ups, you would think he would at least get the benefit of the doubt that he learned something about blitz pick up. Randle was not much better at picking up the blitz and Dunbar was worse, but they were better at special teams than Williams, and that's why they made the 53. It was not because of blitz pick up or that they were better runners.

Perhaps he is injury prone, but the same could of been said of Murray before last year, that is no reason to give up on a player. I think that Williams is the best pure running back on the team right now and I hope he proves it. I don't understand the mentality that some folks here have, that he may be the best runner on the team, but is he can't pass block, he can't make the team. I wonder what these same folks would say if Peterson was acquired and turned out that he Randle and Dunbar were better pass blockers than Peterson, would they want him cut?
 

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I'm not complaining. I'm a big fan of Collins and Green, but they are about the future. The 2015 OL is doubtful to be better than the 2014 OL.

Why exactly? Everyone on our line but Free are young ascending players.

I believe it is more probable than not that the line is better than last year.
 

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I believe he also confirmed it directly in that 5-Points Blue/Kristie Scales interview about his shoe closet, too. Or else she said it in the pre-interview narration. Either way, I think a lot of teams actually *were* interested in him as a practice squad pickup for late in the season. He makes a lot of sense as a guy to stash for training camp if you don't have a back since he was a high pick and presumably fully rehabilitated at that point. He only didn't fit on our roster because we needed the ST play, but in camp, that's not really an issue until cut downs.

It wasn't on that one. It came out in December and I am still looking for the actual interview. I did find this to confirm the report though:

 

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It wasn't on that one. It came out in December and I am still looking for the actual interview. I did find this to confirm the report though:



I remembered Babe saying it, but thought he was maybe not being accepted as a credible source. Lindsay Cash also reported it here:

When 2015 free agency hit, Williams had calls and offers from as many as 10 outside teams. He turned down contracts and roster spots, simply for the chance to possibly remain on the practice squad for the Dallas Cowboys another season.

http://www.5pointsblue.com/ryan-williams-seizes-opportunity-after-seasons-in-the-shadows/

She reports it on the Blitz, as well, in a video here:

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2015/03/20/blitz-ryan-williams-beyond-gridiron

At about the 3:15 mark she says it in the overlay, and he responds directly with the explanation for why he stayed in Dallas. That's sufficient for my purposes, anyway.
 

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I believe he also confirmed it directly in that 5-Points Blue/Kristie Scales interview about his shoe closet, too. Or else she said it in the pre-interview narration. Either way, I think a lot of teams actually *were* interested in him as a practice squad pickup for late in the season. He makes a lot of sense as a guy to stash for training camp if you don't have a back since he was a high pick and presumably fully rehabilitated at that point. He only didn't fit on our roster because we needed the ST play, but in camp, that's not really an issue until cut downs.

If you sign someone from someone's practice squad don't they have to go on the 53 man roster for the rest of the year. To get that person to your practice squad during that period you have to expose them to waivers.
 

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I remembered Babe saying it, but thought he was maybe not being accepted as a credible source. Lindsay Cash also reported it here:



She reports it on the Blitz, as well, in a video here:

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2015/03/20/blitz-ryan-williams-beyond-gridiron

At about the 3:15 mark she says it in the overlay, and he responds directly with the explanation for why he stayed in Dallas. That's sufficient for my purposes, anyway.

Babe and Cash are not random internet poster. If they aren't credible then who is? Wishful thinking trumps critical thinking apparently.
 

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If you sign someone from someone's practice squad don't they have to go on the 53 man roster for the rest of the year. To get that person to your practice squad during that period you have to expose them to waivers.

And he went through waivers in September. Between September and December, Williams said he had 10 offers and elected to stay here because he wants to stay here. The two notions are not mutually exclusive.
 

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If you sign someone from someone's practice squad don't they have to go on the 53 man roster for the rest of the year. To get that person to your practice squad during that period you have to expose them to waivers.

They have to go to the active roster for three games, as I recall.
 

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Sometimes players forego money for glory.

In fairness, Williams just saw the contract this Oline got Murray. He could take 200K to go be nobody in Jax, or be patient, run behind this line and hit paydirt a few years later.

Which I actually think is kind of smart of him and has not much to do with 'glory' per se..
 

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In fairness, Williams just saw the contract this Oline got Murray. He could take 200K to go be nobody in Jax, or be patient, run behind this line and hit paydirt a few years later.

Which I actually think is kind of smart of him and has not much to do with 'glory' per se..

He basically said as much when he was talking about Murray cashing in, big time, in Philly. I think he just, as he says, really really trusts his product and knows DAL is a pretty good situation right now for any RB. He's right.
 

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He basically said as much when he was talking about Murray cashing in, big time, in Philly. I think he just, as he says, really really trusts his product and knows DAL is a pretty good situation right now for any RB. He's right.

To me he is unquestionably the guy with the highest upside. On film he is a better back than Randle in my very humble, non scout opinion, and who knows what McFadden shows up to camp..

But if he is going to get Romo killed, that's far worse than Murray's fumbling.
 

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To me he is unquestionably the guy with the highest upside. On film he is a better back than Randle in my very humble, non scout opinion, and who knows what McFadden shows up to camp..

But if he is going to get Romo killed, that's far worse than Murray's fumbling.

Yep, and yep.

IIRC, the team had him rated higher than we'd rated Murray, too, the year they came out. All that and $4.50 will buy you a cup of coffee, but theres' a lot to like there in terms of potential, anyway.
 

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In fairness, Williams just saw the contract this Oline got Murray. He could take 200K to go be nobody in Jax, or be patient, run behind this line and hit paydirt a few years later.

Which I actually think is kind of smart of him and has not much to do with 'glory' per se..

He had little to lose in doing that. Williams did play good odds - the competition in Dallas for the RB position is not insurmountable, and if he can remain healthy, demonstrate some capability of picking up the blitz and perhaps contribute on special teams as a returner, he has a good chance of making the most of his opportunity.
 
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