DMN: What they're saying about Cowboys DE Greg Hardy: Suspension, second chances, and more

[Kaiser]

Apparently, the NFL has photos which indicate abuse. I don't know if they do or not. But I doubt very seriously the suspension is based simply on accusations and simply on the dismissal of the charges. Any lawyer can see that would be a losing proposition. The league must have something to base its decision - something legitimate and legal.

We'll see.

The lawyer in charge of seeing Justice done was the North Carolina DA and he dropped all charges without asking for a plea bargain deal. The NFL isn't acting according to the law, they are acting according to PR to protect their business interests. There is a huge difference between the two.

 

[bayeslife]

Even if it's 2 games he still misses the Giants and Eagles which kinda sucks.

 

[cowboyvic]

Even if it's 2 games he still misses the Giants and Eagles which kinda sucks.

Why do you think the NFL set it up that way ? they are Anti-cowboys in that NY office that is full of Giants fans.

 

[31smackdown]

Has anything ever been mentioned about the third party that was present? Wouldn't this person have all the information? That person was also helping Hardy and actively restraining her from attacking Hardy and trying to get her to leave the apartment, which was being done with force since she was not leaving voluntarily.

 

[tyke1doe]

Even if it's 2 games he still misses the Giants and Eagles which kinda sucks.

I think we can handle both teams with Hardy. I don't think the Eagles can win a shoot-out with the Cowboys if it comes to that. They have no receivers. And they don't have anyone who can cover Dez, Williams, Beasley and Witten the whole game.

 

[Jarv]

I think showing a clear pattern of ineptitude by the league is more than relevant in this case. They have proven themselves inept in their handling of these cases from the Ray Rice situation to the current day. They get no benefit of the doubt.



I'd like to know what the 'something' they had to base this 10-game suspension on was? Certainly nothing in their own rules of conduct when it transpired, and certainly nothing in their cobbled-together new set either.

The one in place at the time of the accusation was 2-games and their new and improve version says 6. But, somehow, the number 10 comes out of it?

The NFL can 'interpret' laws and personal rights however they want if they want to keep being taken to court and risk eventual government inquiries into their business.

Yeah, kinda weird they came up with ten Stash...I heard they counted four separate instances at 2 games apiece, so that would equal eight, right? Maybe it's 2x4 then divide be 2 add 6? Did the league ever really explain where the 10 came from?

 

[Stash]

Yeah, kinda weird they came up with ten Stash...I heard they counted four separate instances at 2 games apiece, so that would equal eight, right? Maybe it's 2x4 then divide be 2 add 6? Did the league ever really explain where the 10 came from?

Not in any way that would make sense to anyone, no.

It's like they're not even trying to make it look consistent.

 

[Nightman]

Yeah, kinda weird they came up with ten Stash...I heard they counted four separate instances at 2 games apiece, so that would equal eight, right? Maybe it's 2x4 then divide be 2 add 6? Did the league ever really explain where the 10 came from?

They said something about 4 instances of abuse from that one fight. He would get 2 games for each time he put his hands on her and another 2 games for guns being present in the home. They are trying to say they are using the old guidelines of a max of 2 games per incident.

I've said before it would be like failing 4 drug tests for taking 4 hits off of one joint.

 

[Enlightened32]

bullcrap.

accusations alone should not warrant a suspension. if that is now the case, all you have to do is cry foul on someone and they're penalized.

I agree with this, however, I dont think the NFL does. Yet, according to the OLD COC he should get no more than 2 games.....if any.

 

[guag]

Not in any way that would make sense to anyone, no.

It's like they're not even trying to make it look consistent.

They said something about 4 instances of abuse from that one fight. He would get 2 games for each time he put his hands on her and another 2 games for guns being present in the home. They are trying to say they are using the old guidelines of a max of 2 games per incident.

I've said before it would be like failing 4 drug tests for taking 4 hits off of one joint.

It's hilariously arbitrary and reeks of scapegoating and gross overcompensation in order to make it appear that they deeply regret their previously "lenient" DV policy. It almost seems as though they had a predetermined number of games in mind for a suspension even before conducting an investigation, and then retroactively came up with lame justifications for this number, regardless of how little sense it actually makes. Because no matter what the investigation actually turned up, they needed a scapegoat, darn it.

I'd bet that they would have handed out a 10 game suspension even if Hardy had been found guilty in a trial and received jail time.

 

[dallasdave]

It shouldn't. Goodell might have a different take.

Give Goodell the chair !!!

 

[5Stars]

How in the hell can you persecute a player that has been absolved by the law?

I understand that (NFL) private Corporations have rules and regulations that must be followed, but those rules and regulations have been changed and you should not be allowed to retro-activate those rules to benefit your decisions.

All I will say, the madder you make Hardy...the worse it is going to be for his opponents up North!

 

[big dog cowboy]

Give Goodell the chair !!!

I'm right there with you. At first I was happy he was the new commish. Every year he is in office my opinion of him goes down.

 

[Nightman]

ESPN just ran a blurb on the ticker that said Hardy would fight anything but a 2 game suspension.....according to sources

 

[dallasdave]

ESPN just ran a blurb on the ticker that said Hardy would fight anything but a 2 game suspension.....according to sources

Good !!!! Give em HELL Greg

 

[Nightman]

Give Goodell the chair !!!

Wonder how the Brady appeal will turn out????

 

[arglebargle]

Give Goodell the chair !!!

The Comfy Chair!!

 

[iceberg]

How in the hell can you persecute a player that has been absolved by the law?

I understand that (NFL) private Corporations have rules and regulations that must be followed, but those rules and regulations have been changed and you should not be allowed to retro-activate those rules to benefit your decisions.

All I will say, the madder you make Hardy...the worse it is going to be for his opponents up North!

those rules and regulations change with public opinion and that's what sucks. this isn't to say the issues are not serious, but a valid mechanism to ferret these players out *AND* effectively and *consistently* deal with the issue is what is needed. making it up as you go, no one will take seriously and the root problem isn't address. but oh, the mob is happy.

if the mob ain't happy, ain't no one happy.

 

[dallasdave]

has been absolved by the law?

I understand that (NFL) private Corporations have rules and regulations that must be followed, but those rules and regulations have been changed and you should not be allowed to retro-activate those rules to benefit your decisions.

All I will say, the madder you make Hardy...the worse it is going to be for his opponents up North!

Wonder how the Brady appeal will turn out????

Kind of cheesy

 

[Rogah]

How in the hell can you persecute a player that has been absolved by the law?

Dropped charges because the victim got paid not to cooperate =/= being "absolved" by the law.

The NFL is going to continue covering their ***** here. There's virtually zero bad publicity in over-punishing and later losing in court. But, as they found out last year, it is a PR nightmare to under-punish a guy who engaged in domestic violence.