Do coaches deserve credit for Dak?

[Wood]

We love to blast coaches at any opportunity but are we slow to give them credit? What we are seeing from Dak is unusual. Hearing Jimmy Johnson talk about how rare it is to see rookie QB process all of this so quickly really hit home for me. When I see Romo on sidelines, I don't see him near Dak. I believe Dallas is correctly simplifying this and only letting Linehan in his ear. I really don't see how much Wade could have worked with Dak in such short time period. So are we just seeing Dallas striking oil here or is Linehan pulling off one of his best coaching assignments?

 

[Nightman]

Nah, we got him because we coached at the Senior Bowl and saw him up close........he was impressive from his first snap in the pre-season.....I would say he wasn't coached up a whole lot yet

 

[Ring6]

I'm no expert. Our QB coach, Wade Wilson, had chances to show what could be done with several backup QB's. So, my instinct is to say that what Dak has is something he had all along. The coaching staff does deserve credit in using his abilities, yes, but his success is largely innate in my opinion.

 

[robjay04]

Silly not to give the coaches any credit. Sure Dak deserves credit but 32 teams thought Dak was essentially a fifth round pick. The coaches put him in a position to succeed. You put a young guy with talent around a bunch of qb coaches, good things are bound to happen.

 

[Wood]

Nah, we got him because we coached at the Senior Bowl and saw him up close........he was impressive from his first snap in the pre-season.....I would say he wasn't coached up a whole lot yet

I need to go back and listen to draft show podcast during senior bowl week. I can't remember if Dak was on Dallas side and how well he did that week.

 

[robjay04]

I'm no expert. Our QB coach, Wade Wilson, had chances to show what could be done with several backup QB's. So, my instinct is to say that what Dak has is something he had all along. The coaching staff does deserve credit in using his abilities, yes, but his success is largely innate in my opinion.

He bombed on a 4th round draft pick and failed to turn around a first round bust. It's not like he has had a ton to work with.

 

[pugilist]

how about credit to nobody??

to me it's looking like our stumbling onto Dak is pure, dumb luck. And there's nothing wrong with that.. we are due some good luck for a change (and a ton more imo)

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Dak deserves credit for being Dak. The guy who is learning, improving and works hard.

 

[links18]

Pure Luck....

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Silly not to give the coaches any credit. Sure Dak deserves credit but 32 teams thought Dak was essentially a fifth round pick. The coaches put him in a position to succeed. You put a young guy with talent around a bunch of qb coaches, good things are bound to happen.

Mel Kiper had Dak as a 2nd rounder.

 

[mattjames2010]

Yes, the team chose him because there were obviously things they liked. Yes, they get credit and I'm not entirely sure how anyone could not give them SOME kind of credit. The rest of the credit goes to Dak himself.

 

[SDCowboy]

Dak deserves credit for Dak.

 

[Leadbelly]

His ability to tune out the rush and keep his eyes downfield was present at Miss St. His cool head and leadership was also present. His approach/character is most likely how he was raised but his comfort with the media has to have come from pre-Dallas work or natural confidence. That doesn't come from a few weeks of work.

His footwork seems improved since becoming a pro and that's helped his accuracy and timing. He played pretty flat footed at Miss St. His decision making seems much improved, but it's been two games.

Dan Mullen is also a very good QB developer/offensive mind, working under Urban Meyer at Utah and Florida. I think Dak was underestimated by scouts as far as pro offense readiness.

 

[DFWJC]

Some of the credit. Of course.

 

[Idgit]

In my opinion, people are pretty silly about how they think coaching works, anyways. Fans tend to think it's motivation and pushing buttons that gets teams to play better. I think the reality is that a staff is responsible for the overall scheme and for communicating to the scouting departments what they want in terms of player skills. From there, most of the time coaches spend with the players is in installing the system, teaching the concepts, working on the fundamentals, working on health, conditioning, assembling the right players for the various personnel packages they want to play, and backing those players up. Then in putting together the game plans diagnosing tendencies on film, and then putting in wrinkles they think are going to work.

The actual work on game day of calling plays and motivating players is a lot less significant than what they do the other 97-98% of the time. And even then, it's usually the product of joint decision making across the whole unit staff and not just one person, anyway.

So, as far as young players like Dak or Zeke go, of course the staff gets some credit for creating an environment where those players can learn as quickly as they have learned. I don't know how unique it is relative to other teams in the league. I do know Dallas is pretty stable and pretty organized relative to a lot of teams right now. And I know we've got a ton of QB experience on the staff and with Tony for a young guy to lean on. It's pretty much the perfect place for a guy like Dak to land.

As far as credit goes, it's always the players that play and the teams that assemble the best players that tend to win most of the game. That goes for Dak, too. Just like it went for Stephen McGee or Dustin Vaughan before him. Just because you're not a good player, it doesn't mean you don't have good coaching. But I think it's rare that you see good players who don't have good coaching, too. The rate at which Dak has improved from the draft until now, I think it's pretty obvious that he's had the benefit of some really good instruction.

 

[Setackin]

Am I mistaken or wasn't Dak there 2nd and most likely 3rd option at QB? Had the Eagles not taken wentz I'm 85% sure the Cowboys would have, and they tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch. Maybe some of that has to do with the scouts idk, but it's not like JG/SL is the BP to Daks Romo... if he makes a healthy size leap from now until next year, I'll give them all the credit in the world for developing him further.

 

[robjay04]

Mel Kiper had Dak as a 2nd rounder.

Mel Kiper doesn't work for any of the 32 teams.

 

[robjay04]

Am I mistaken or wasn't Dak there 2nd and most likely 3rd option at QB? Had the Eagles not taken wentz I'm 85% sure the Cowboys would have, and they tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch. Maybe some of that has to do with the scouts idk, but it's not like JG/SL is the BP to Daks Romo... if he makes a healthy size leap from now until next year, I'll give them all the credit in the world for developing him further.

The fact that we liked other quarterbacks ahead of Dak has more to do with the scouts than the coaches. I really do believe there are a ton of people that are involved in the decision process so no reason to blame the coaches for not taking him higher.

If anything, I credit Linehan---I think he pushes for Dak more than anyone. I remember when Dak was drafted, Linehan got on the phone with him saying "we had a feeling this was going to happen" or something like that.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

I'll give them partial credit.

 

[Jinxx13x]

We love to blast coaches at any opportunity but are we slow to give them credit? What we are seeing from Dak is unusual. Hearing Jimmy Johnson talk about how rare it is to see rookie QB process all of this so quickly really hit home for me. When I see Romo on sidelines, I don't see him near Dak. I believe Dallas is correctly simplifying this and only letting Linehan in his ear. I really don't see how much Wade could have worked with Dak in such short time period. So are we just seeing Dallas striking oil here or is Linehan pulling off one of his best coaching assignments?

Jerry was an Oil man wasn't he ?