Do we make this mistake again?

[Northern_Cowboy]

If they get a long term deal they can backload the contract so the cap hit isn't that big during the three year window the team has.

even with a long term deal it would be very hard to do that because of the guaranteed money involed. It's reported to be approx 105m in guarantees, you can't really backload with that type of guarantee, say it's a 6 year deal, well with an average of 35m per season and 100m in guaranteed money, if you try to make the 1st 3 years at even 25m the last 3 have to be 45m. If the Cowboys gave Dak a 100m signing bonus to take care of the guaranteed money and spread it out over 5 season, Dak would still have to play for an average salary of just 5m per season for the 1st 5 years to keep his cap hit at under 13% of the cap . He won't do that and wouldn't blame him. With these very large guarantees now it's not as easy to backload contracts

 

[Whirlwin]

Haha..

Elliott?

That's another thread entirely.

Love the player. Hate the person.

It definitely should be in the same conversation. What are you talking about money you have to realize We’re at already went. So don’t give it to Prescott because we don’t have it but yet let’s keep Elliot. No get rid of Elliott Pay Prescott

 

[Redball Express]

It definitely should be in the same conversation. What are you talking about money you have to realize We’re at already went. So don’t give it to Prescott because we don’t have it but yet let’s keep Elliot. No get rid of Elliott Pay Prescott

We have already seen what happens when you do not have Zeke.

Dak can't win. Already seen that.

And playing his backup is no solution.

He will never holdup for 350 carries.

 

[JoeKing]

I think his real point is to defend Dak at every point. If someone tries to introduce the slightest non marshmallow and butterflies reality about Dak you can count on an attacking post from America’s Cowboy within minutes. You can set your watch to it....lol.

And in terms of all the other players he mentions being overpaid, they are all non-QB’s except for Romo so their salaries were all much smaller so the impact on the team cap was smaller. And in terms of Romo, I have less problem with an overpaid QB who can hit receivers in stride than an overpaid Dak who can’t. Okay, let’s start the America’s Cowboy counter.....6,5,4,3......

Is hitting receivers in stride still a thing? All I've been watching is Cowboys games so it's been a while since I've seen that.

 

[Qcard]

I guess you are aiming this at me.

Fact is..I had 28 replies overnight and 90% agree with my comments.

So many here are upset but do not want to post. I understand.

Awesome... hopefully we can get all the Dak Hater's in one thread so I can napalm....straffing is tiring...

Again, if I disagree about how Dak is handling his negotiations..

I am not hating the player. Just the methods.

The method is being implemented by a rebuttal and professional Todd France CAA.

Dak does not owe the Cowboys fans a team friendly deal. Dak owes his profession and position the responsibility to get the best deal possible.

I am sophisticated enough after 67 years to make the distinction. Others may not.

Which you are is up to you.

People need to stop labeling.

It just makes being a fan a distraction rather than enjoying.

So stop all the one line straffing missions here.

Hater

 

[Rockport]

No he doesn't and his biggest complaint still is about Dak's accuracy and pocket awareness (funny same things most around here who don't want Dak as our QB say about him) but Troy's not going to say anything negative about Dak during a contract negotiation that could hurt Dak in the money he is trying to get. no former player anywhere would do that to any player let alone Dak, but after he signs his deal watch Troy will critisize Dak again about the same things he has in the past. Look Dak was severly underpaid last year at 2m per season thats not the teams fault he was a 4th round pick and they did reportedly offer him a deal at 30m+ per year before the season started which he turned down. Cowboys want to sign Dak to a deal at 27-28m i say go for it but at what he currently wants no way in hell he is not that good a QB to be demanding that type of money, only one team in NFL history during the cap era has won a SB with a QB taking more than 13% of the cap in a season and that was Steve Young at 13.10% and Dak is no Steve Young. If the salary cap for 2020 hits the projected mark of 200m then Dak at just 30m per season would take up 15% of the cap at 35m per season that number is 17.5% of the cap. The team will hamstring itself for years giving Dak that type of deal, he is just not the Mahomes type of QB you can take that chance with

Hey you haven’t been paying attention. Not surprising as many haters here like yourself apparently don’t watch the games. Troy said on multiple occasions calling Cowboys games last year that Dak has fixed his accuracy issues. You should watch all Cowboys games and not just the ESPN highlights.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Hey you haven’t been paying attention. Not surprising as many haters here like yourself apparently don’t watch the games. Troy said on multiple occasions calling Cowboys games last year that Dak has fixed his accuracy issues. You should watch all Cowboys games and not just the ESPN highlights.

Please show me those quotes cause after you do i will show you the Troy Aikman quotes where he has said QB's who aren't accurate on their throws early on never become accurate. I think you may be quoting Troy Aikman saying that Dak has worked hard to try and fix his accuracy issues, not that he has, but if you have quotes by all means post them for me to read

 

[Rockport]

Please show me those quotes cause after you do i will show you the Troy Aikman quotes where he has said QB's who aren't accurate on their throws early on never become accurate. I think you may be quoting Troy Aikman saying that Dak has worked hard to try and fix his accuracy issues, not that he has, but if you have quotes by all means post them for me to read

Ok;
On what has impressed him the most about Dak Prescott this season:

Aikman: Well I just think that not just Sunday, but I think this year, he is much more decisive with his decision-making and his ability to process what he is seeing pre-snap and taking it post-snap, if that makes sense. He is seeing the field a lot better. Take for instance the Giants game, Week 1, you could argue that there was nobody covering anybody in that game and in some ways that would be right — I’ve never seen guys as open as they were in that game. But he knew exactly where he was going with the football and he put the ball on the money and I don’t know if that would necessarily happen prior to this year and that has just continued. He has been overall accurate with the football and I’ve been impressed.
A lot of those things don’t come naturally for some players. Throwing the ball accurately does not come naturally for them. For me, it always did. From the time I was real young when I would pick up any kind of ball I could throw it wherever I wanted to. But then there are others who we see and they can’t. The amount of time that Dak has put in is obvious. With his throwing motion, with his footwork, working on accuracy, studying opponents’ defenses, all of those things and that hard work has paid off.

When you start evaluating players and you start projecting what they are going to be after they get paid a lot of money, for some I think you worry about some of those things. For him... I’ve said it many, many, many times: I wouldn’t worry about it at all. He is really motivated to be the best version of himself that he can be. He works hard at it and I don’t think anything is going to keep him from going down that path. With all of the great qualities he has as a leader in the locker room and the way the players rally around him...there’s just a lot of great things about Dak that maybe here in the Metroplex we take for granted because we don’t follow all of the other quarterbacks as closely as we do our own. He’s a special, special guy and has taken some of the things that he maybe wasn’t quite as good at his first few years and he’s made those real strengths through sheer determination and a lot of hard work.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Ok;
On what has impressed him the most about Dak Prescott this season:

Aikman: Well I just think that not just Sunday, but I think this year, he is much more decisive with his decision-making and his ability to process what he is seeing pre-snap and taking it post-snap, if that makes sense. He is seeing the field a lot better. Take for instance the Giants game, Week 1, you could argue that there was nobody covering anybody in that game and in some ways that would be right — I’ve never seen guys as open as they were in that game. But he knew exactly where he was going with the football and he put the ball on the money and I don’t know if that would necessarily happen prior to this year and that has just continued. He has been overall accurate with the football and I’ve been impressed.
A lot of those things don’t come naturally for some players. Throwing the ball accurately does not come naturally for them. For me, it always did. From the time I was real young when I would pick up any kind of ball I could throw it wherever I wanted to. But then there are others who we see and they can’t. The amount of time that Dak has put in is obvious. With his throwing motion, with his footwork, working on accuracy, studying opponents’ defenses, all of those things and that hard work has paid off.

When you start evaluating players and you start projecting what they are going to be after they get paid a lot of money, for some I think you worry about some of those things. For him... I’ve said it many, many, many times: I wouldn’t worry about it at all. He is really motivated to be the best version of himself that he can be. He works hard at it and I don’t think anything is going to keep him from going down that path. With all of the great qualities he has as a leader in the locker room and the way the players rally around him...there’s just a lot of great things about Dak that maybe here in the Metroplex we take for granted because we don’t follow all of the other quarterbacks as closely as we do our own. He’s a special, special guy and has taken some of the things that he maybe wasn’t quite as good at his first few years and he’s made those real strengths through sheer determination and a lot of hard work.

Best i can tell this quote is from Oct 2019 and basically Troy is basically saying that Dak has worked hard on his throwing motion and it has helped i would hope so. Here is Troy from a few months earlier
"
"I've said for many, many years, as long as I can ever remember when I'm asked, 'Hey, what do you look for first in a quarterback?'" Aikman said. "The first thing I look for is accuracy, because the rest of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how tough you are. It doesn't matter how smart you are or what a great leader you are.

"None of that stuff matters if you can't put the ball where you have to put it and I've seen too many errant throws in that regard, and then there needs to be a little more anticipation. When there's two deep safeties, you're looking for somebody to take the middle of the field, and that should be your first read if you have somebody who is taking the middle of the field versus those kinds of looks.

"I don't see great anticipation on what a defense is doing and how might I be able to exploit that pre-snap or as the ball is snapped. And then, of course, they struggled running the football as well, which is their identity. So, that's kind of my thoughts after going back and reviewing the film from the other night and where some areas are that they need to be better at."

The article is about Dak Prescott
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...aikman-dak-prescott-needs-to-be-more-accurate

 

[xwalker]

It's getting late now as the deadlines appear on our horizon about signing or tagging Dak and Amari.

Lets remember why all of this happened in the first place.

Tony Romo.

The OL rebuild was supposed to help Romo.

Drafting Zeke was to replace Murray leaving and no running game.

To help Romo. To be Romo Friendly.

Dak was not drafted to take over. He was just supposed to be a project behind Romo as a safety net.

Now here we are,. Romo has got his dream TV job leaving him plenty of time for golf..

Dak is grossly about to be overpaid in a move that is going to doom this team for years if he fails or gets hurt and can't play well enough..

because of Dak needing to have a posse of people around him who are All Pros..

we can't afford a defense at all.

It been like the Keystone Cops in Dallas.

And we keep making the same old mistakes with this team..

we get a low cost QB and we want to go to the SB with him by overpaying for him to get there thinking if we just pay him enough..

and wait long enough..

It will all work.

Failures have now caused a complete coaching change to be made and Garrett was made the sacrificial lamb along with all the coaches.

Quite a blood letting to beDak Friendly.

Now Dak has stopped being Cowboy Friendly and wants to be paid the most in the league to be our leader.

Doesn''t anybody see this problem clearly?

The timing of signing Dak and Amari to these contracts are all out of order.

You pay players for performance AFTER you receive services rendered.

Not before.

Mahomes is the best there is right now.

He gets paid AFTER he wins a SB.

Not before.

Brady?

Same thing.

But the Cowboys?

Nope.

We like Dak.

We will overpay Dak becuz Dak has suffered with us and been underpaid for two losing runs into the playoffs.

OMG.

Somebody pour some coffee down the gullets of the Jones and sober them up.

We are about to completely lose this team to their decisions of wanting to make a bad business platform work.

It will not strike oil,Jerrah the WildCat man.

I have one suggestion for Jerrah.

Stop applying oil philosophy to sports.

Why do attempt to analyze football?

I don't attempt to analyze impressionist artwork or ballet performances...

 

[Rockport]

Best i can tell this quote is from Oct 2019 and basically Troy is basically saying that Dak has worked hard on his throwing motion and it has helped i would hope so. Here is Troy from a few months earlier
"
"I've said for many, many years, as long as I can ever remember when I'm asked, 'Hey, what do you look for first in a quarterback?'" Aikman said. "The first thing I look for is accuracy, because the rest of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how tough you are. It doesn't matter how smart you are or what a great leader you are.

"None of that stuff matters if you can't put the ball where you have to put it and I've seen too many errant throws in that regard, and then there needs to be a little more anticipation. When there's two deep safeties, you're looking for somebody to take the middle of the field, and that should be your first read if you have somebody who is taking the middle of the field versus those kinds of looks.

"I don't see great anticipation on what a defense is doing and how might I be able to exploit that pre-snap or as the ball is snapped. And then, of course, they struggled running the football as well, which is their identity. So, that's kind of my thoughts after going back and reviewing the film from the other night and where some areas are that they need to be better at."

The article is about Dak Prescott
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...aikman-dak-prescott-needs-to-be-more-accurate

You cowardly gloss over how he has made tremendous progress according to Troy. Your not man enough to admit you are wrong but double down on how you know so much more that Troy Aikman. Keep posting. You embarrassing yourself is great entertainment.

 

[Redball Express]

Why do attempt to analyze football?

I don't attempt to analyze impressionist artwork or ballet performances...

Oh my..

I am an analytic.

My father was an attorney and FBI agent for 33 years.

No never wanted to explain who to him.

He already knew who before he asked you.

He wanted to know WHAT FOR?

 

[Redball Express]

Best i can tell this quote is from Oct 2019 and basically Troy is basically saying that Dak has worked hard on his throwing motion and it has helped i would hope so. Here is Troy from a few months earlier
"
"I've said for many, many years, as long as I can ever remember when I'm asked, 'Hey, what do you look for first in a quarterback?'" Aikman said. "The first thing I look for is accuracy, because the rest of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how tough you are. It doesn't matter how smart you are or what a great leader you are.

"None of that stuff matters if you can't put the ball where you have to put it and I've seen too many errant throws in that regard, and then there needs to be a little more anticipation. When there's two deep safeties, you're looking for somebody to take the middle of the field, and that should be your first read if you have somebody who is taking the middle of the field versus those kinds of looks.

"I don't see great anticipation on what a defense is doing and how might I be able to exploit that pre-snap or as the ball is snapped. And then, of course, they struggled running the football as well, which is their identity. So, that's kind of my thoughts after going back and reviewing the film from the other night and where some areas are that they need to be better at."

The article is about Dak Prescott
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...aikman-dak-prescott-needs-to-be-more-accurate

Thanx for the fact check.

I love Aikman and Tony too as an announcer.

They both are excellent students of the game.

I would never attack their comments.

I might point out a contradiction. But would always give them the benefit of the doubt.

But that never happens here. If you make a statement somebody dislikes, they go into fact checking like they are detectives, call you out that you are lying, research your posts from a year ago that seem to contradict you.

Then you are an unreliable source with negative agendas, etc.

What cow poop.

It gets weird at times. I wonder if I am in a football chatroom..

or back in the 10th grade in the Debate Club.




Later.

 

[Whirlwin]

We have already seen what happens when you do not have Zeke.

Dak can't win. Already seen that.

And playing his backup is no solution.

He will never holdup for 350 carries.

Actually Prescott has proven he can win without Elliot. Stop it pay tension come on you’re better than that.

 

[Rockport]

Thanx for the fact check.

I love Aikman and Tony too as an announcer.

They both are excellent students of the game.

I would never attack their comments.

I might point out a contradiction. But would always give them the benefit of the doubt.

But that never happens here. If you make a statement somebody dislikes, they go into fact checking like they are detectives, call you out that you are lying, research your posts from a year ago that seem to contradict you.

Then you are an unreliable source with negative agendas, etc.

What cow poop.

It gets weird at times. I wonder if I am in a football chatroom..

or back in the 10th grade in the Debate Club.




Later.

It’s an alarming situation in todays world what with people ok with others lying all the time. It’s not ok with me.

 

[Whirlwin]

It’s an alarming situation in todays world what with people ok with others lying all the time. It’s not ok with me.

I have no problem stating I’ve made a mistake. Too many seasons too many games. Opinion is opinion fact you better get it straight because cowboy fans know their football.

 

[Rockport]

I have no problem stating I’ve made a mistake. Too many seasons too many games. Opinion is opinion fact you better get it straight because cowboy fans know their football.

Exactly. We all make mistakes. It’s how we learn. The key is admitting it to yourself so that you can learn. Many can’t seem to do that and just double down.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dak is grossly about to be overpaid in a move that is going to doom this team for years if he fails or gets hurt and can't play well enough..

From watching our contracts, my conclusion is that Jerry expects the cap to balloon, so wants to sign lots of guys long term. If that's the case, Dak won't be "overpaid" for long.

This would be just like Jerry, with his projections for the future being fed with two teaspoons of wishful thinking, expecting the cap to balloon *just when* we have a lot of guys we'd like to sign.

Doesn't mean the cap won't balloon, but it doesn't give me confidence that Jerry's projection that it will, if that's even the case, is based on facts more than feelings.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

You cowardly gloss over how he has made tremendous progress according to Troy. Your not man enough to admit you are wrong but double down on how you know so much more that Troy Aikman. Keep posting. You embarrassing yourself is great entertainment.

Start watching around the 1:50 mark

 

[Redball Express]

From watching our contracts, my conclusion is that Jerry expects the cap to balloon, so wants to sign lots of guys long term. If that's the case, Dak won't be "overpaid" for long.

This would be just like Jerry, with his projections for the future being fed with two teaspoons of wishful thinking, expecting the cap to balloon *just when* we have a lot of guys we'd like to sign.

Doesn't mean the cap won't balloon, but it doesn't give me confidence that Jerry's projection that it will, if that's even the case, is based on facts more than feelings.

I do not doubt any of that.

Some others have hinted around similar conclusions.

The CBA is an ingredient I possess little understanding of and do not want to master in order to understand the team and it's decisions.

So I will just muddle along being stupid and feeling like roadkill to those more nimble of mind. Ignorence can be bliss.