Do We Overrate Newman?

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MossBurner said:
Newman is a good corner. Shawn Springs is a good corner. Lito Sheppard is a good corner. Go to an Eagles website and Lito is the best corner in the East. Go to a Commanders site and Springs is probably thought of as the best...

Newman is overrated here. That being said, he is BY FAR the best corner on the Cowboys and was therefore avoided more so than any corner in the division. The talent gap is larger between Newman/Henry than with Springs/Rogers...


Are you trying to say that Rogers sucks as much as Springs?

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My 152 IQ is not the basis of this discussion, it is your series of lies

Congrats, that puts you in the Mensa range. You should post your cert as your sig pic. Thats a very high honor and you should be proud. I would love to see it !

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I think he is underrated.
 

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I could careless if people think Newman is the greatest or not, bottom line he is a great fit in Dallas and does his job and that is what matters. This non-sense of well so and so is better who cares does Newman get the job done? Yes and that why he is here. Does he make the Dallas secondary better? Yes
 

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MossBurner said:
Of course, the Skins defense and corners sucked last season.


Seriously, I just find it comical that you would rate Springs equal to or near the same level with Newman and also say that Rogers is closer to that "best in division" label than Henry.

Did you watch Henry before his injury last year?

In fact, I think that the stats prove that Rogers isn't even on par with Springs who is clearly behind Newman and even Henry if you are going by last years stats.

Name _G_Tkl_S_I_Yd_ TD_PD

Newman_16_59_1_3_16_ 0_14
Henry___12_48_0_3_102_1_11
Springs _15_50_0_1_ 2 _0 _8
Rogers _ 12_46_0_2_14 _0 _2

*NFL.COM

Yeah, if you throw away the stats it's easy to say that Rogers is closer to Springs than Henry is. But the proof shows otherwise.

I was really joking to tell the truth, but after re-visiting the stats maybe your corners do suck:wink2:
 

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DeAngelo Hall career averages per season
Tackles: 43
Sacks: .25
INT: 4
Passes Defensed: 4

Deion Sanders career averages per season
Tackles: 20.65
Sacks: .06
INT: 3.12
Passes Defense: 4.71

Anthony Henry
Takles: 59
Sacks: 0
INT: 5
Passes Defensed: 8.6



YEAH!!!!!GO STATS!!!!!!!!!

Henry PWNS Sanders and Hall!!one!111!!1!1!1

Henry is better than both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Vintage said:
DeAngelo Hall career averages per season
Tackles: 43
Sacks: .25
INT: 4
Passes Defensed: 4

Deion Sanders career averages per season
Tackles: 20.65
Sacks: .06
INT: 3.12
Passes Defense: 4.71

Anthony Henry
Takles: 59
Sacks: 0
INT: 5
Passes Defensed: 8.6



YEAH!!!!!GO STATS!!!!!!!!!

Henry PWNS Sanders and Hall!!one!111!!1!1!1

Henry is better than both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry but that is such a ridiculous statement. You make yourself and other Cowboys fans look bad saying stuff like that without joking. If you're going to tell me you were joking add the smilies.

No kidding man, that's just awful. It makes me want to delete the post for its silliness before too many people see it.
 

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cowboyfreak said:
Seriously, I just find it comical that you would rate Springs equal to or near the same level with Newman and also say that Rogers is closer to that "best in division" label than Henry.

Where in the world did I say that?
 

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Its clear to anyone with any intelligence that Newman is the best corner in the division. Henry is right up there with the best of the rest.
 

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Hostile said:
I'm sorry but that is such a ridiculous statement. You make yourself and other Cowboys fans look bad saying stuff like that without joking. If you're going to tell me you were joking add the smilies.

No kidding man, that's just awful. It makes me want to delete the post for its silliness before too many people see it.

You need smilies to tell you that was a joke?

I think Vintage is more intelligent than that.

And if he was serious, I hope you ban him.
 

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Alexander said:
You need smilies to tell you that was a joke?

I think Vintage is more intelligent than that.

And if he was serious, I hope you ban him.
I hope he was joking. I don't know.

That was Commanders logic.
 

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Alexander said:
You need smilies to tell you that was a joke?

I think Vintage is more intelligent than that.

And if he was serious, I hope you ban him.

I am glad the point of my post didn't fly over your head.

Otherwise, this would all be a lost cause....I thought it was obvious with all the Pwn!11one11!!!1 stuff....


The whole reason I posted that...well actually, the real reason for it, was some Panther fans were arguing our corners sucked bec. Newman and Henry's stats paled in comparison to Gamble and Lucas, so I made that post to show that stats for a CB are very misleading...

Then I saw someone pull the same stunt talking about Rogers and Springs...so I decided to copy and paste the post I made on the Panther's board.
 

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Hostile said:
I'm sorry but that is such a ridiculous statement. You make yourself and other Cowboys fans look bad saying stuff like that without joking. If you're going to tell me you were joking add the smilies.

No kidding man, that's just awful. It makes me want to delete the post for its silliness before too many people see it.

Next time :bang2: I :laugh1: will :starspin make :eek: sure:lmao2: I :lmao: throw:mad: in :) the proper :confused: amount:cool: of :rolleyes: smilies.....




:p:
 

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Vintage said:
Next time :bang2: I :laugh1: will :starspin make :eek: sure:lmao2: I :lmao: throw:mad: in :) the proper :confused: amount:cool: of :rolleyes: smilies.....




:p:
Whew, thank you.

Hey, it's early. My jaw dropped.
 

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Vintage said:
Next time :bang2: I :laugh1: will :starspin make :eek: sure:lmao2: I :lmao: throw:mad: in :) the proper :confused: amount:cool: of :rolleyes: smilies.....




:p:

Good one.
 

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Hostile said:
Whew, thank you.

Hey, it's early. My jaw dropped.


Well pick up your jaw, then click your mouse on the ban button anyways. :p:
 

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Hostile said:
Whew, thank you.

Hey, it's early. My jaw dropped.


LOL....

Yeah...I just don't like seeing people use INTs, Tackles, and passes defensed as means to prove a corners superiority over another...

I think passes defensed is a decent indicator...but it only gets counted if someone throws at you.

What doesn't show up is blanketing your WR and the QB has to look elsewhere bec. of it.... That to me, is great coverage. Yet, it doesn't show up in the stat book.

But allowing a 23 yard pass and making the tackle does.
 

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Vintage said:
I am glad the point of my post didn't fly over your head.

Otherwise, this would all be a lost cause....I thought it was obvious with all the Pwn!11one11!!!1 stuff....

Anytime I see the PWNT, OWN things or excessive punctuation, I immediately dismiss the commentary as blabbering from a mental deficient. But I know you aren't so I got the joke.
 
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