Do you agree with "Sudden Death" Overtime?

Joe71

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If you take care of business in regulation you never have to worry about it.I like it the way it is.


Oh yeah .......STUPID FREAKING KICKERS!!!!!!!!!
 

lane

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how about instead of flipping the coin............ the referee tosses it in the air like a nba tipoff...........roy williams will represent us every time..
 

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NO, college overtime takes away the fundamental point of football.

To stop the other team, drive down field, capitalize on field position. Giving each team the ball ALREADY in field goal range is ********. It's just running up the points so us fans are excited. That's not football. PERIOD.

If we didnt allow the KR to get to the 33 off the kick, and didnt allow that big run they would likely have punted, we would have kicked the winning field goal and all of you would not complain.

The one thing they SHOULD change, is the HOME team should get to call the flip. The Away team calls at the beginning, Home should at the end.
 

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The history of the Dallas Cowboy boards, from the DMN, ESPN, Yahoo and all the privately owned boards has something in common. They are visited by Commander fans wanting to ridicule the one team they seem to envy the most.

Over the last seven years I have been posting on a variety of Cowboy boards, I have seen the occassional comment to the all-out attack by hordes of Skins fans wanting to flame our team and its fans.

The one constant in all of this is the fact that we as Cowboy fans, have maintained we were better than the Commander fanbase. Like the team we all admire, we were a better lot than the Arts and others that would rewrite history to win an argument, or make outlandish comments about players or cap space when all the street signs indicate they were wrong.

So when I read a thread that essentially is contradicting a rule that has been in this league for as long as I have been watching, and that is over 40 years, it makes me wonder if we are now who we ridicule?

Have we become a fanbase that deals in non-reality over taking the good with the bad and showing a game face of seeing our team as it is, and not some dreamy-eyed fantasy because we are in denial?

As to the topic at hand, there are many reasons why it is as it is.

1. The networks wish it to be.

2. The players have a higher risk of injury if a fifth period were to be played.

3. The residual toll taken on the team in subsequent weeks would have a potential of a negative effect. Especially during the years opf parity when there are more OT games than ever before.

But my point is simple. The timing of a thread, no matter how innocuous, attaches a perception to this fanbase that we are crybabies, just like the Commander fans.

After years of circling the wagons on many a board from attack by these wild savages, I'd just as soon not run the risk of looking like a hypocrite.

I prefer the high road, thanks.

JMO.
 

WV Cowboy

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The way it is set up now is good and seems to give a team the opportunity to showcase each phase of their team.

Take our game with Denver for example.

Dallas ST could have kicked off and pinned them deep.

The Dallas defense could have held them to a 3 and out.

And then the Dallas ST's could have put them in good field position with an adequate return, ... for the Dallas offense to take it down and put it in the EZ.

All three phases of a team are given an opportunity if each does their job.

Even if you lose the coin toss, you have a chance to win the game if your team rises to the occasion.
 

dbair1967

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For a game to go from 24-24 to 55-52, it would require AT LEAST 4 overtimes, and thats assuming both teams scored a TD every OT. Only 2 D-1A college games have EVER reached 4 OTs

Nice work Matlock :rolleyes:

BTW, the team that wins the toss wins the game 62% of the time

"Up till Thursday's game, 382 NFL regular season games have gone to OT, with 200(52.4%) being won by the team winning the toss, 166(43.4%) being won by the team losing the toss, and 16 ties(4.2%). So, in essence, the team losing the toss has a 47.6% chance of not losing the game"

kinda disputes your post there doesnt it? and I'm guessing your other fact about only 2 games going to 4 OT's is way off too

as you say, nice work matlock :rolleyes:

David
 

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bump*

I'm very interested in this poll.
Need more votes.
So far, seems the "nays" have it.
 

jay cee

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TwoDeep3 said:
The history of the Dallas Cowboy boards, from the DMN, ESPN, Yahoo and all the privately owned boards has something in common. They are visited by Commander fans wanting to ridicule the one team they seem to envy the most.

Over the last seven years I have been posting on a variety of Cowboy boards, I have seen the occassional comment to the all-out attack by hordes of Skins fans wanting to flame our team and its fans.

The one constant in all of this is the fact that we as Cowboy fans, have maintained we were better than the Commander fanbase. Like the team we all admire, we were a better lot than the Arts and others that would rewrite history to win an argument, or make outlandish comments about players or cap space when all the street signs indicate they were wrong.

So when I read a thread that essentially is contradicting a rule that has been in this league for as long as I have been watching, and that is over 40 years, it makes me wonder if we are now who we ridicule?

Have we become a fanbase that deals in non-reality over taking the good with the bad and showing a game face of seeing our team as it is, and not some dreamy-eyed fantasy because we are in denial?

As to the topic at hand, there are many reasons why it is as it is.

1. The networks wish it to be.

2. The players have a higher risk of injury if a fifth period were to be played.

3. The residual toll taken on the team in subsequent weeks would have a potential of a negative effect. Especially during the years opf parity when there are more OT games than ever before.

But my point is simple. The timing of a thread, no matter how innocuous, attaches a perception to this fanbase that we are crybabies, just like the Commander fans.

After years of circling the wagons on many a board from attack by these wild savages, I'd just as soon not run the risk of looking like a hypocrite.

I prefer the high road, thanks.

JMO.
Thank you Two deep.......
Now getting back to the question originally posed.
 

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Wow.

Some of you have really gone off the deep end with this one.

I started this poll and I am saying right now,
We lost to Denver fair and square.
Period.
No crying. No excuses.
They were the better team on Thursday.

That said, we have played in 2 OT games in the past few weeks.
We have won one and we have lost one.
Even Steven.

But I was reminded of how hard it is to swallow a loss under the circumstances of losing a coin toss and never getting an opportunity to move the ball ourselves.
I didn't say it's not fair.
I didn't say it's an excuse.
I said, "Do you agree with 'sudden death' overtime?
Because I myself have never liked it and could have posted this poll at ANY time. It just so happens that I posted after our recent OT game.

I'm not saying the timing is coincidental but rather admitting that the recent loss reminded me what it is that I despise about the current OT method.

Even when we win, believe it or not, I still don't like the method.

It's a general football question.
Nothing more.
That is why I bumped it. Because I am genuinely curious to see how many others out there feel as I do.

And to my amazement... it appears I'm in the majority.

If the majority of diehard football fans on a diehard football fan website is any reflection of the football fanbase worldwide, don't you think this issue may warrant some discussion and a closer look at how to resolve it?

After all, we the fans are the core of what the game is all about and the reason for it's existence in the first place.
 

jay cee

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Quit trying to explain yourself Quickdraw, it's a better thread than most of the threads that get posted.

Some people are not happy unless they can create an argument.

If you had posted this question after the Cowboys had won the Giants game, they would have accused you of being a closet cowboy hater or something.
Since you posted after a loss, you must be whining because they lost.

It's a simple question. Are you happy with the overtime as it is? Or would you like to see it changed? It's amazing how that question can garner such negative responses.
 

Dallas31

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the college system is the worst.

it isn't even real football, giving a team the ball on a given yard line.

if anything, make it a 5-10 minute extra period, or just require each team to get the ball at least once.
 

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dbair1967 said:
so why dont we quit allowing teams to play games at home too, since they have a slight advantage in winning%...lets move every game to neutral sites

but if thats not feasible, we could make it more even from now on we can have the visiting team select one opposing key player inactive as well, further evening the odds

come on people

David

Seeing that each team (unless you are New Orleans) has an equal number of home games per season, it is apples and oranges.

An advantage due to a coin toss isn't quite as fair. I would prefer to see a 5th regulation period rather than a do or die situation.
 

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Crown Royal said:
Seeing that each team (unless you are New Orleans) has an equal number of home games per season, it is apples and oranges.

An advantage due to a coin toss isn't quite as fair. I would prefer to see a 5th regulation period rather than a do or die situation.

I left the exact same response a few posts back. (page 2)

Good point.
 

wesleyc288

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im in favor of the system we have in place right now....there is no reason to change it......i hate the college system
 

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Something that occurred to me that I don't believe has been mentioned. As we understand, 52% of teams that win the toss in OT, win the game. However, that doesn't mean they win the game on the first drive.

Seattle won the toss today, took several possessions to win, but statstically, they go on record as a team winning the OT coin toss as the team winning the game, contributing to that 52%.

I see it as a push, with no team at an advantage.
 
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