Do you find it funny that Carthon is being considered for Dolphins head coach

mr.jameswoods

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according to media speculation

If there was ever a "Friends of Bill" type of guy, it is Maurice Carthon. I'm sorry but I would laugh my rear off if they hired Maurice as head coach...talk about a figurehead. Parcells would supercede Jerry as the biggest puppet master ever if that were to be the case. I still laugh about Parcells hired him as the offensive coordinator and then rushed to hire Sean Payton. Parcells didn't have the balls to actually name Payton as the OC so he kept Carthon as the OC and made Payton the "QB coach" I remember when people asked why Carthon deserved to be an OC and people would say he had great organization skills. LOL...I could see it back then. Payton hands Carthon the playbook and he puts it in a Trapper Keeper. It wasn't until the following season that they adjusted the titles to reflect reality by naming Carthon "assistant head coach" aka Bill's personal assistant. I appreciate the loyalty that Bill has showed this man but cmon, he is so unqualified to be a head coach. Would any serious GM or owner aside from Parcells consider him to be head coaching material? I think we know the answer to that.

And let's be honest, even Sparano as head coach reeks of the Jerry/Campo master and puppet relationship. LOL That's translation for "Bill wants to coach but is too tired to actually stand on the sidelines any longer" LOL
 

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this is going to come off as racist , i am not and is not intended to be that way. but is he the maurice carthon im thinking of. I heard on espn 103.3 they were only going to interview him based on that rule that they had to interview a minority coach. interesting point you bring up though
 

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David276;1877521 said:
this is going to come off as racist , i am not and is not intended to be that way. but is he the maurice carthon im thinking of. I heard on espn 103.3 they were only going to interview him based on that rule that they had to interview a minority coach. interesting point you bring up though

No, Parcells isn't going to interview him based on race. He is going to interview him because he is his friend and has always tried to look after him like a son. You gotta respect that in one sense but it's also nepotism at it's finest. And no, I don't think your post or inquiry was racist.
 

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mr.jameswoods;1877522 said:
No, Parcells isn't going to interview him based on race. He is going to interview him because he is his friend and has always tried to look after him like a son. You gotta respect that in one sense but it's also nepotism at it's finest. And no, I don't think your post or inquiry was racist.

well they were talking about some "rule" named after somebody
that requires a team to do that .
 

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David276;1877527 said:
well they were talking about some "rule" named after somebody
that requires a team to do that .

The Rooney rule

Actually you bring up a good point. Parcells would probably interview him to satsfy the Rooney rule. It's a brilliant move by Parcells because many won't think Parcells interviewed him to satisfy the Rooney rule because he knows Carthon personally and hired him as his OC in his first year with the Cowboys.

Parcells isn't stupid. He wasn't stupid enough to truly hire Carthon as his OC which is why he desperately sought Sean Payton. Likewise, I think he will hire Sparano. Nonetheless, you can't ignore Parcell's penchant for nepotism. He could hire Carthon as head coach/figurehead and then hire a real OC/coach under him. If that were to occur, I would laugh my rear off because that is so typical of Parcells: hire your friends not the most qualified people
 

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David276;1877521 said:
this is going to come off as racist , i am not and is not intended to be that way. but is he the maurice carthon im thinking of. I heard on espn 103.3 they were only going to interview him based on that rule that they had to interview a minority coach. interesting point you bring up though

Its called the Rooney Rule.

The way this rule is being handled by parcells is somewhat insulting. A rumor comes out that the dolphins have already hired someone, a few hours later word is "Miami has interviewed <Minority_Candidate>. They are clearly not interested in minority candidates, they have their minds set.

The supporters of this rule say, "Oh, just by interviewing a minority candidates you put their name out there for a coaching job" maybe even get them to be in peoples mind as a guy parcells was interested in. Thats not how things work anymore, your incompetence will outshine your color, and you can still rise to the top through the right trees. I believe the barrier between coaches has broken down. There are plenty of minority coaches already developping trees. Its time to retire this rule, or maybe upgrade it to GMs. I wonder what the % of minority head coaches are to % of minority GMs.

Anyway, let the dolphins do their interviewing dance to make sure they are still viewed like a good boy by the media.

This leads me to believe Sparano has agreed to be their guy.
 

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Hypnotoad;1877533 said:
Its called the Rooney Rule.

The way this rule is being handled by parcells is somewhat insulting. A rumor comes out that the dolphins have already hired someone, a few hours later word is "Miami has interviewed <Minority_Candidate>. They are clearly not interested in minority candidates, they have their minds set.

The supporters of this rule say, "Oh, just by interviewing a minority candidates you put their name out there for a coaching job" maybe even get them to be in peoples mind as a guy parcells was interested in. Thats not how things work anymore, your incompetence will outshine your color, and you can still rise to the top through the right trees. I believe the barrier between coaches has broken down. There are plenty of minority coaches already developping trees. Its time to retire this rule, or maybe upgrade it to GMs. I wonder what the &#37; of minority head coaches are to % of minority GMs.

Anyway, let the dolphins do their interviewing dance to make sure they are still viewed like a good boy by the media.

This leads me to believe Sparano has agreed to be their guy.

I agree with essentially what you are saying but don't be suprised to find Maurice Carthon as the new "offensive coordinator" LOL...and then don't be suprised if they hire the real OC a month later. This is not just the Rooney rule. Parcells has been looking after his boy Maurice for a while now. I wouldn't be suprised if he is hired as Assistant Head Coach.

Parcells did the same thing with Bellichek. He hired Bellichek as his "secondary coach" after he already hired as Al Groh as defensive coordinator for the Jets. Even the media didn't play along and would credit Bellichek when discussing the defense with the Jets instead of Groh. He really wanted Bellichek but hired Groh first just in case he couldn't hire Bill Bellichek
 

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David276;1877521 said:
this is going to come off as racist , i am not and is not intended to be that way. but is he the maurice carthon im thinking of. I heard on espn 103.3 they were only going to interview him based on that rule that they had to interview a minority coach. interesting point you bring up though

You do not sound racist, but do you really need to be worried?

I do not feel you or anyone should worry about someone being offended by words that were not written in hate.

If a "victim" has a problem with it, allow those individuals to pout.

Sincerely,

Unites States of the Offended.
 

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Hypnotoad;1877533 said:
Its called the Rooney Rule.

The way this rule is being handled by parcells is somewhat insulting. A rumor comes out that the dolphins have already hired someone, a few hours later word is "Miami has interviewed <Minority_Candidate>. They are clearly not interested in minority candidates, they have their minds set.

The supporters of this rule say, "Oh, just by interviewing a minority candidates you put their name out there for a coaching job" maybe even get them to be in peoples mind as a guy parcells was interested in. Thats not how things work anymore, your incompetence will outshine your color, and you can still rise to the top through the right trees. I believe the barrier between coaches has broken down. There are plenty of minority coaches already developping trees. Its time to retire this rule, or maybe upgrade it to GMs. I wonder what the &#37; of minority head coaches are to % of minority GMs.

Anyway, let the dolphins do their interviewing dance to make sure they are still viewed like a good boy by the media.

This leads me to believe Sparano has agreed to be their guy.

The rule in it's self is insulting. The Fins wouldn't be the first team to "Rumor a hiring" then satisfy the rule.

Woods. If Parcells wanted to coach, he would have.
 

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Hypnotoad;1877533 said:
Its called the Rooney Rule.

The way this rule is being handled by parcells is somewhat insulting. A rumor comes out that the dolphins have already hired someone, a few hours later word is "Miami has interviewed <Minority_Candidate>. They are clearly not interested in minority candidates, they have their minds set.

The supporters of this rule say, "Oh, just by interviewing a minority candidates you put their name out there for a coaching job" maybe even get them to be in peoples mind as a guy parcells was interested in. Thats not how things work anymore, your incompetence will outshine your color, and you can still rise to the top through the right trees. I believe the barrier between coaches has broken down. There are plenty of minority coaches already developping trees. Its time to retire this rule, or maybe upgrade it to GMs. I wonder what the % of minority head coaches are to % of minority GMs.

Anyway, let the dolphins do their interviewing dance to make sure they are still viewed like a good boy by the media.

This leads me to believe Sparano has agreed to be their guy.

I think Ozzie Newsome is breaking down the GM barrier as well. He is going to have a tree soon as well. Also former player Sean Jones is a scout and as you see more guys do things like that you will see them work themselves up the chain like everyone else does. nothing happens over night but it is happening because in the NFL it is all about money and winning
 

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I thought the titles were assistant head coach/running game coordinator for Carthon and QB coach/passing game coordinator for Payton while in Dallas.
 

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You do not sound racist, but do you really need to be worried?

I do not feel you or anyone should worry about someone being offended by words that were not written in hate.

If a "victim" has a problem with it, allow those individuals to pout.

Sincerely,

Unites States of the Offended.

WOW ! you may not be racist but you are angry.
"victim" Is that meant to make light of the way people of color have been treated in this country since it's beginning?
This country is a shining example for the world as to what can be done in the area of race,ethnic,religious relations but not because of people with your mindset. People like you are why race will always be a problem. Yes I hear ya there are professional victims in this country but both them and you are men fighting in a burning house.

Of all of the Coaches being interviewed, considered in this time of the coachng carosel, Why is it that you bring race into Mo Carthons situation? I do not expect you to look inward, it's a hard process and few have the Balls to do it. Just as an aside, when you say I don't mean to come off as racist,you already have. And my man that said you do not sound racist. How the hell would he know , You can tell by his post where he's at.

Allow those individuals to pout?

Man My only dream is to meet someone like you face to face. That's not some physical threat. I would like to engage someone of your mindset in an exchange of ideas. You really do facinate me. I never do, people of your mindset seldom say those sorts of things where anyone but their click can hear it or behind the anomimity of a computer
 

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Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius;1877900 said:
I never do, people of your mindset seldom say those sorts of things where anyone but their click can hear it or behind the anomimity of a computer

Yes......and I'm sure you "exchange ideas" with strangers who say things you don't like all the time in the real world?

Let's say a 6 foot 5 inch white guy who weighs 300 pounds hops on your bus and screams "I hate black people!" Are you going to "exchange ideas" with this guy or are you gonna get off the bus?
 

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Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius;1877900 said:
Man My only dream is to meet someone like you face to face. That's not some physical threat. I would like to engage someone of your mindset in an exchange of ideas. You really do facinate me. I never do, people of your mindset seldom say those sorts of things where anyone but their click can hear it or behind the anomimity of a computer

I don't mean to come off as racist, but your name is entirely too long and screws up the entire formatting of every thread you post in.
 

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Kilyin;1877954 said:
I don't mean to come off as racist, but your name is entirely too long and screws up the entire formatting of every thread you post in.

Say what? :lmao2:
 

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Kilyin;1877954 said:
I don't mean to come off as racist, but your name is entirely too long and screws up the entire formatting of every thread you post in.
Classic...
 

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Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius;1877900 said:
You do not sound racist, but do you really need to be worried?

I do not feel you or anyone should worry about someone being offended by words that were not written in hate.

If a "victim" has a problem with it, allow those individuals to pout.

Sincerely,

Unites States of the Offended.

WOW ! you may not be racist but you are angry.
"victim" Is that meant to make light of the way people of color have been treated in this country since it's beginning?
This country is a shining example for the world as to what can be done in the area of race,ethnic,religious relations but not because of people with your mindset. People like you are why race will always be a problem. Yes I hear ya there are professional victims in this country but both them and you are men fighting in a burning house.

Of all of the Coaches being interviewed, considered in this time of the coachng carosel, Why is it that you bring race into Mo Carthons situation? I do not expect you to look inward, it's a hard process and few have the Balls to do it. Just as an aside, when you say I don't mean to come off as racist,you already have. And my man that said you do not sound racist. How the hell would he know , You can tell by his post where he's at.

Allow those individuals to pout?

Man My only dream is to meet someone like you face to face. That's not some physical threat. I would like to engage someone of your mindset in an exchange of ideas. You really do facinate me. I never do, people of your mindset seldom say those sorts of things where anyone but their click can hear it or behind the anomimity of a computer


can someone interpret this one please?

:muttley:
 

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Kilyin;1877954 said:
I don't mean to come off as racist, but your name is entirely too long and screws up the entire formatting of every thread you post in.

2Julius will be gone in a few months and it will be fixed....... :laugh1:
 
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