Do you have complete trust in Romo now?

[CowboysFanSince88]

I will let you know by early January.

I'm not afraid to admit that I don't trust him anymore and he will have to do a lot this season for me to regain my trust.

 

[Idgit]

So only your point-of-view is valid?

What was I thinking.

Not at all. But if I have to endure watching a gaggle of fans dump on our QB for an entire offseason because they basically didn't like what he had to say in a post game interview, only to change their opinions on the basis of a few quarters of preseason play, while patting themselves on the back for noticing how much he's improved in all those made-up areas they'd been complaining about for the last 8 months, if I have to endure all of that in silence, without saying 'no, you were wrong then, and the illusion of progress you're trying to paint is wrong now', I'll just explode.

That doesn't mean that only my point-of-view is valid, but it doesn't mean that every absurd POV re: Tony Romo's play was valid, too.

 

[DoomsDayD]

I am sorry but until we go thru a december without me getting ulcers and wasting beer then he will earn my trust,but until then i will withhold my trust and my opinion about ROMO.

 

[gbrittain]

What I really don't trust are the Romo haters/doubters. I honestly believe some are trying to look at him objectively but are just coming up with a different point of view...one I don't agree with but at least they are trying to be objective.

Unfortunately, I don't believe many of the haters/doubters have the ability or 'want to' to look at him objectively.

When the season ends in a L and disappointment it's Romo's fault. Forget everything else...it's Romo's fault.

Nevermind many many good to great QBs on good teams never win a Super Bowl and/or end many seasons in disappointment.

Nevermind in one breath its "Tony failed in the playoffs against the Giants and is a loser".

In the same breath talk about how Tom Brady is one of the best ever and oh so 'clutch', yet fail to mention that in the very same year Tom Brady at the helm of the most prolific offense ever failed to put up more than 14 points against the Giants in the most important game of the year.

Nevermind the ridiculous back to back 70+ yard runs given up by the defense that help put a dagger in the Cowboys playoff hopes.

So yeah, frankly some (not all) are just haters and they are bitter that their Cowboys have not won squat and take their anger out on Tony Romo.

So yeah, I don't trust'em.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Not at all. But if I have to endure watching a gaggle of fans dump on our QB for an entire offseason because they basically didn't like what he had to say in a post game interview, only to change their opinions on the basis of a few quarters of preseason play, while patting themselves on the back for noticing how much he's improved in all those made-up areas they'd been complaining about for the last 8 months, if I have to endure all of that in silence, without saying 'no, you were wrong then, and the illusion of progress you're trying to paint is wrong now', I'll just explode.

That doesn't mean that only my point-of-view is valid, but it doesn't mean that every absurd POV re: Tony Romo's play was valid, too.

Going crazy over what others think will drive you crazy.

I happen to believe that Romo still has something to prove. He needs to grow in a maturity that is associated with the job he performs.

I am not saying he has to take on the grim demeanor of Aikman. Nor am i saying he is immature as a person. But I do believe he needs to focus on the parts of his game he directly effects that negatively impact the team. it's this experience and attemntion to details is where I want him to mature.

I can take this posture without disliking Romo. I can evaluate his skills on the field without passion even though I like the kid.

As time progresses, my fandom has changed from the rabid belief that they can do no wrong to something more in line with seeing them and their game as postives and negatives.

I truly believe it is okay to ask tough questions about any player on the team. To hold them accountable for their play without sacrificing an integrity of being passionate yet just and fair in veiwing all players.

You say you saw this two years ago. I take that at face value. But frankly I have to wonder if it was truthfully seeing something or wishing it were true.

I see the same passion from fans about Austin. They know he's going to be great.

Yet he has shown areas in his game that don't bode well for this prediction some have made for him.

I think Romo encompasses all the possibilities of being greatness. Yet he still has some distinctive areas where he needs to improve to take the next step.

This is what I comment on. This is what I believe. I find it no different than your assertion you knew he was the one.

I accept your position. I myself cannot leap on faith that things will be until they are. Nothing I have seen except recently have indictaed that he is growing into this job to the extent that he may very well be a champion.

Maybe you shouldn't take others opinions as a contradiction of yours and accept that we all see things differently.

 

[TwoDeep3]

What I really don't trust are the Romo haters/doubters. I honestly believe some are trying to look at him objectively but are just coming up with a different point of view...one I don't agree with but at least they are trying to be objective.

Unfortunately, I don't believe many of the haters/doubters have the ability or 'want to' to look at him objectively.

When the season ends in a L and disappointment it's Romo's fault. Forget everything else...it's Romo's fault.

Nevermind many many good to great QBs on good teams never win a Super Bowl and/or end many seasons in disappointment.

Nevermind in one breath its "Tony failed in the playoffs against the Giants and is a loser".

In the same breath talk about how Tom Brady is one of the best ever and oh so 'clutch', yet fail to mention that in the very same year Tom Brady at the helm of the most prolific offense ever failed to put up more than 14 points against the Giants in the most important game of the year.

Nevermind the ridiculous back to back 70+ yard runs given up by the defense that help put a dagger in the Cowboys playoff hopes.

So yeah, frankly some (not all) are just haters and they are bitter that their Cowboys have not won squat and take their anger out on Tony Romo.

So yeah, I don't trust'em.

This is the very position I relish when people make statement such as this.

1. I am neither a hater nor a doubter if I ask questions about any player. The minute you label me you then dimish anything I might think with your preconceptions. You speak for me when you do this and you will never articulate what I think the way I do.

2. You mention specific plays and discuss the defense, Brady and other things. However, this suggests these are the sole positions anyone takes to evaluate this player.

I suggest I can bring up specific plays that demoinstrate a behavior by Romo that is not acceptable that have nothing to do with your scenarios.

It is this type of critique that people from your side of the fence ignore when you make your blanket statements that us who have seen holes in his game are just claiming the end result is all his fault.

I suggest when it deals with Romo, there is a religion about this guy and tyhe zealots who believe label those that have questions as heretics. And no amount of justifying our position with facts have any bearing on your labels and ridicule.

But I do love this type of debate.

 

[gbrittain]

This is the very position I relish when people make statement such as this.

1. I am neither a hater nor a doubter if I ask questions about any player. The minute you label me you then dimish anything I might think with your preconceptions. You speak for me when you do this and you will never articulate what I think the way I do.

2. You mention specific plays and discuss the defense, Brady and other things. However, this suggests these are the sole positions anyone takes to evaluate this player.

I suggest I can bring up specific plays that demoinstrate a behavior by Romo that is not acceptable that have nothing to do with your scenarios.

It is this type of critique that people from your side of the fence ignore when you make your blanket statements that us who have seen holes in his game are just claiming the end result is all his fault.

I suggest when it deals with Romo, there is a religion about this guy and tyhe zealots who believe label those that have questions as heretics. And no amount of justifying our position with facts have any bearing on your labels and ridicule.

But I do love this type of debate.

1. I am neither a hater nor a doubter if I ask questions about any player. The minute you label me you then dimish anything I might think with your preconceptions. You speak for me when you do this and you will never articulate what I think the way I do.

Perhaps my post does not apply to you TwoDeep. I think I made it clear that "some" people make no attempt to look at him objectively.

I have on plenty of occasions admitted that his game needs to improve in certain areas. Don't believe me...check it.

I have never ever seen more illogical posts being made by "some" in regards to any current Cowboy player than I have the ones made about Romo.

I said:

Unfortunately, I don't believe many of the haters/doubters have the ability or 'want to' to look at him objectively.

Unless the above statement applies to you, I am definitely not making any attempt to speak or articulate for you.

2. You mention specific plays and discuss the defense, Brady and other things. However, this suggests these are the sole positions anyone takes to evaluate this player.

Just pointing out some blatant hypocracies made by the unobjective Romo bashers. I can't in one breath say look at Romo's stats he must be great, and then say Brees is not that good those are just stats...means nothing. If someone can not show any consistency, I know they are not even attempting to be objective.

It is this type of critique that people from your side of the fence ignore when you make your blanket statements that us who have seen holes in his game are just claiming the end result is all his fault.

Again, I know there are people out there who doubt or whatever word you want to use in regards to Romo that are making an honest effort to evaluate him objectively. I suspect again, my post may not apply to you.

 

[Idgit]

Going crazy over what others think will drive you crazy.

I happen to believe that Romo still has something to prove. He needs to grow in a maturity that is associated with the job he performs.

I am not saying he has to take on the grim demeanor of Aikman. Nor am i saying he is immature as a person. But I do believe he needs to focus on the parts of his game he directly effects that negatively impact the team. it's this experience and attemntion to details is where I want him to mature.

I can take this posture without disliking Romo. I can evaluate his skills on the field without passion even though I like the kid.

As time progresses, my fandom has changed from the rabid belief that they can do no wrong to something more in line with seeing them and their game as postives and negatives.

I truly believe it is okay to ask tough questions about any player on the team. To hold them accountable for their play without sacrificing an integrity of being passionate yet just and fair in veiwing all players.

You say you saw this two years ago. I take that at face value. But frankly I have to wonder if it was truthfully seeing something or wishing it were true.

I see the same passion from fans about Austin. They know he's going to be great.

Yet he has shown areas in his game that don't bode well for this prediction some have made for him.

I think Romo encompasses all the possibilities of being greatness. Yet he still has some distinctive areas where he needs to improve to take the next step.

This is what I comment on. This is what I believe. I find it no different than your assertion you knew he was the one.

I accept your position. I myself cannot leap on faith that things will be until they are. Nothing I have seen except recently have indictaed that he is growing into this job to the extent that he may very well be a champion.

Maybe you shouldn't take others opinions as a contradiction of yours and accept that we all see things differently.

The signal-to-noise ratio of this post if off the charts. It's not clear to me what purpose you think a sports message board serves if you're going to worry much about contradicting opinions or reactions to what you say. It's the reason they have the little 'submit reply' buttons.

Trenchant observations that 'players get better with time' aside, yes, Tony Romo displayed that he was a player capable of winning an NFL championship with his play at his position two seasons ago.

We all understand that this team has something to prove, and the the quarterback is the most important member of the team since that's the position that has the single greatest effect on how it performs. But that's not what the thread was about. The thread was about whether or not we trust a quarterback who's been one of the best players in the NFL at his position over the last three seasons.

 

[popcorn]

His abilty to feel and react to the pass rush is second to none. That can't be coached. All his weekness can be coached. He's more than capable of leading us to.a champoinship.

This is obviously a well thought out view on Romo and I do agree with some of it. Especially your take on his mobile throwing skills.

You're accurate with your critique on some of his weaknesses. But you're seriously under rating him for sure.

In addition to perhaps being the best QB throwing on the move, he has other elite skills:

1) His release is as quick as any QB.

2) He sees the entire field extremely well and has no trouble finding a 3rd or 4th option. Clear evidence of this is the fact he rarely if ever takes a coverage sack. When he's given oddles of time he always finds someone open and gets the ball to him.
You'd be surprised how often a defense drops 7 or 8 in coverage, the QB has all day, but can't find anyone down field.
He ends up taking a coverage sack, throwing an ill advised pass into coverage or takes a check down for no gain.

3) For all the talk of his big game failures, I see a guy who's as cool under pressure as anyone. He plays his best football late in games in tight spots.

I don't agree with you that he's careless with his throwing decisions if that's what you meant. He's aggressive but not careless most of the time. He does have ball security issues and in my opinion it's the only part of his game that holds him back.

You say he's very good but not close to elite and that make little sense to me. I would think any QB who is very good was at least in the same ball park as elite.

I view him as elite. All the measurables you can resonable look to to evaluate a QB i.e. Rating, YPA, TD and INT % and W/L record, all place him in the elite category.

 

[JonJon]

What I really don't trust are the Romo haters/doubters. I honestly believe some are trying to look at him objectively but are just coming up with a different point of view...one I don't agree with but at least they are trying to be objective.

Unfortunately, I don't believe many of the haters/doubters have the ability or 'want to' to look at him objectively.

When the season ends in a L and disappointment it's Romo's fault. Forget everything else...it's Romo's fault.

Nevermind many many good to great QBs on good teams never win a Super Bowl and/or end many seasons in disappointment.

Nevermind in one breath its "Tony failed in the playoffs against the Giants and is a loser".

In the same breath talk about how Tom Brady is one of the best ever and oh so 'clutch', yet fail to mention that in the very same year Tom Brady at the helm of the most prolific offense ever failed to put up more than 14 points against the Giants in the most important game of the year.

Nevermind the ridiculous back to back 70+ yard runs given up by the defense that help put a dagger in the Cowboys playoff hopes.

So yeah, frankly some (not all) are just haters and they are bitter that their Cowboys have not won squat and take their anger out on Tony Romo.

So yeah, I don't trust'em.

From my point of view, those who are the most critical of Romo are the ones that want him to improve the most. You can't continually sing praises to someone, ignoring their weaknesses and hope for the person to improve upon the weakness. That's like having a son bring home a C+ on his report card then throwing him a party, showering him with gifts, and then failing to point out the areas where he needs improvement. He will never correct his mistakes.

So just because there are many who are critical of Romo doesn't mean that they are haters.

I also will readily admit that I think Brady is good, but I also know that he has flaws. But why would a fan of another team take time to point out his flaws? I personally have no desire to see him or any other QB in the league on a different team correct their flaws...I hope their flaws are ignored until the time when the Cowboys expose them.

But as for the Cowboys, I will continue to be critical in hopes that the players will perfect themselves for the betterment of the team. As for Romo, I will admit that he is making steps, but I still need him to bring home that A+ report card to see proof.

 

[DallasDomination]

Going crazy over what others think will drive you crazy.

I happen to believe that Romo still has something to prove. He needs to grow in a maturity that is associated with the job he performs.

I am not saying he has to take on the grim demeanor of Aikman. Nor am i saying he is immature as a person. But I do believe he needs to focus on the parts of his game he directly effects that negatively impact the team. it's this experience and attemntion to details is where I want him to mature.

I can take this posture without disliking Romo. I can evaluate his skills on the field without passion even though I like the kid.

As time progresses, my fandom has changed from the rabid belief that they can do no wrong to something more in line with seeing them and their game as postives and negatives.

I truly believe it is okay to ask tough questions about any player on the team. To hold them accountable for their play without sacrificing an integrity of being passionate yet just and fair in veiwing all players.

You say you saw this two years ago. I take that at face value. But frankly I have to wonder if it was truthfully seeing something or wishing it were true.

I see the same passion from fans about Austin. They know he's going to be great.

Yet he has shown areas in his game that don't bode well for this prediction some have made for him.

I think Romo encompasses all the possibilities of being greatness. Yet he still has some distinctive areas where he needs to improve to take the next step.

This is what I comment on. This is what I believe. I find it no different than your assertion you knew he was the one.

I accept your position. I myself cannot leap on faith that things will be until they are. Nothing I have seen except recently have indictaed that he is growing into this job to the extent that he may very well be a champion.

Maybe you shouldn't take others opinions as a contradiction of yours and accept that we all see things differently.

Well said.

 

[Bleu Star]

What I really don't trust are the Romo haters/doubters. I honestly believe some are trying to look at him objectively but are just coming up with a different point of view...one I don't agree with but at least they are trying to be objective.

Unfortunately, I don't believe many of the haters/doubters have the ability or 'want to' to look at him objectively.

When the season ends in a L and disappointment it's Romo's fault. Forget everything else...it's Romo's fault.

Nevermind many many good to great QBs on good teams never win a Super Bowl and/or end many seasons in disappointment.

Nevermind in one breath its "Tony failed in the playoffs against the Giants and is a loser".

In the same breath talk about how Tom Brady is one of the best ever and oh so 'clutch', yet fail to mention that in the very same year Tom Brady at the helm of the most prolific offense ever failed to put up more than 14 points against the Giants in the most important game of the year.

Nevermind the ridiculous back to back 70+ yard runs given up by the defense that help put a dagger in the Cowboys playoff hopes.

So yeah, frankly some (not all) are just haters and they are bitter that their Cowboys have not won squat and take their anger out on Tony Romo.

So yeah, I don't trust'em.

I'll do better than TwoDeep. Ready? Here goes.

 

[Rampage]

In Romo We Trust

 

[adzrne7]

Not until he shows me he can make good decisions in December and in the Playoffs. That doesn't mean I don't like him, I think he is a very good QB.

 

[ZB9]

personally, I dont trust Romo at all as the franchise QB. He is fools gold imo

 

[gbrittain]

I'll do better than TwoDeep. Ready? Here goes.

ok...

 

[BIGDen]

:signmast: what he said

I've been a football fan for a very long time and seen every QB over the last 45+ years so my expectations might be a bit different from the average younger fan who has grown up in this current era that favors the passing game. Because of that, I have every confidence in Tony Romo and have from the moment I first saw him play. This kid has "IT" and has prove it since his first start in the NFL.

Too many of you folks have unrealistic expectations for the Cowboys' QB no matter who it is. The most ridiculous argument I see is, "until he wins a playoff game he hasn't done anything". To me that is the height of stupidity and shows a complete lack of any understanding of what football is all about.

Football is a TEAM sport, IMO the ULTIMATE TEAM sport, and it requires all facets of the team to work together in order to have success. To put on one guy the failure of the team is foolishness, especially since those same people refuse to give him credit for whatever success we do have. It is a double-standard and is irrational to say the least.

IMO, Tony Romo is currently the 4th best QB in the NFL behind: Peyton manning, Tom Brady, & Philip Rivers. He is better than Brees, Eli, Ben R, McNabb, Cutler, and everyone else that people throw out as the latest and greatest.

Also, Tony Romo is the QB of the Dallas Cowboys so I will support him through thick and thin, just like I did with Meredith when he struggled at times, or when Staubach would throw 3 INTs in a playoff game, Or Danny White when it seemed like he made mistakes at the worst possible times, or when Aikman was getting killed. Romo has the potential to be the best QB we've ever had (notice I said "best" not greatest) and has already set several Cowboys passing records and is likely to break them all eventually.

Romo is our guy folks and we WILL win with him at the helm. :starspin

I agree with you 100%. I've been watching football for over 30 years and this guy is special. I can honestly say that I'm appreciating every snap he takes for us. When he retires (hopefully many years from now), people will appreciate his unique abilities. We need to worry about depth at certain positions and untimely penalties - not our QB.