Do you really wanna pass on Bosa?

[Star Guard_31]

I really want to pass. Why draft Bosa at 4 when you can probably draft Nassib at 67? They're indistinguishable.

 

[Aven8]

I'm perfectly fine with Bosa if Wentz is gone. Some mocks have us with Bosa and Henry going 1 and 2 and as I've said before you would be getting arguably the 2 best football players in college football last year. That's pretty strong!

 

[Risen Star]

"Do you really wanna pass on Bosa?"

Yes.

 

[FortWorthfanatic]

I don't know if Bosa will be a superstar, but I think he will be better than Ellis was. Bosa uses his hands better than most current NFL players. Bosa has a nasty streak as well.

 

[egn22]

"Do you really wanna pass on Bosa?"

Yes.

You're a QB guy, meaning this thread ain't for you

 

[gimmesix]

I really want to pass. Why draft Bosa at 4 when you can probably draft Nassib at 67? They're indistinguishable.

Yes, that's exactly why one is going to go in the top 10 and the other in the top 70.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And if not then what

Draft your board or trade down.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If we decide that a traditional (off ball) LB isn't worth a top 4 pick - DE is no more a reach than any of the other positions, IMO.

If you are reaching at 4, it better be because you can't get a trade partner to move down some.

 

[Star Guard_31]

Yes, that's exactly why one is going to go in the top 10 and the other in the top 70.

Bosa's career year = 13.5 sacks (2014)
Nassib's career year = 15.5 sacks (2015)

Bosa: 6'5
Nassib: 6'7

Bosa: 269lbs
Nassib: 277lbs

Bosa: 33 3/8 in arms
Nassib: 34.5 in arms

Bosa: 4.86 40
Nassib: 4.84 40

Bosa: 24 reps
Nassib: 21 reps

 

[reddyuta]

Bosa's career year = 13.5 sacks (2014)
Nassib's career year = 15.5 sacks (2015)

Bosa: 6'5
Nassib: 6'7

Bosa: 269lbs
Nassib: 277lbs

Bosa: 33 3/8 in arms
Nassib: 34.5 in arms

Bosa: 4.86 40
Nassib: 4.84 40

Bosa: 24 reps
Nassib: 21 reps

is nassib even on our radar? it seems we are doing the traditional cowboy draft thing-concentrate on the top 2 rds and just mail the rest of the draft in with predictable results.i swear this FO has the worst record in the nfl in rds 3-7.

 

[waving monkey]

i know there are many who want QB at 4 over anything else....
This thread is not for you. This is for the folks who are ok w taking a QB later and focusing on defense first.

Going RB at 4 makes no sense right now. It's also pretty high for an injured linebacker. There aren't any WRs in this draft worthy of being picked at 4. And we have one of the best Olines in the league so we don't need to invest in OL that early.
I like Ramsey a ton but I believe the Chargers will grab him at 3.

Every draft pundit out there agrees that Bosa creates a lot of disruption. He's technically sound and immediately brings plenty of skill to any DLine.

He's the #1 rated DL this year and I think a lot of us are turned off because he's not exactly what we want him to be. He's not a quick twitch sack machine that will develop into the next Bruce smith or Reggie white, but he provides exactly what this team needs and what Marinelli looks for.

He can be lined up all over the line, and is excellent against the run. He can help create opportunities for our other linemen. The addition of Thornton upgrades the 1tech spot and will allow a now healthy TCraw to be even better than he was when we decided to extend him. Bosa provides even more help for TCraw and vice versa.

Bosa isn't Greg Hardy but Hardy wasn't exactly Hardy last year either. Bosa is however a lot easier to deal with from a coachs perspective.

Bosa helps solidify the DLine overall and if Gregory decides the weed is just too much to pass up even after his 4 game suspension, we have a 1st rd talent right there to help soften the blow of losing what we believed would turn into a premier pass rusher.

I'm starting to come ALL The way back around to Bosa as our pick at 4.

Teams Have Hard-Party Drug Concerns with Joey Bosa, Ezekiel Elliott
Updated March 15, 2016
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Eastern Kentucky edge rusher Noah Spence was a standout pass-rusher at Ohio State before positive tests for the party drug ecstasy led to him being kicked out of the program. At the Senior Bowl, teams interviewed Spence about his issues at Ohio State, and while he wouldn't name names, he said that he wasn't the only Buckeye player who was using ecstasy while partying. In speaking with sources at multiple teams, two of the players that teams suspect for that type of partying are defensive end Joey Bosa and running back Ezekiel Elliott.

To be clear, neither player had a positive drug test for ecstasy or molly (MDMA). However, Bosa was suspended for the opening game of the 2015 season. Ohio State didn't clarify the exact offense for the suspension, but Bosa told teams during the NFL Combine interviews that he was suspended because he refused to take a drug test. That counted as a positive and thus he was automatically slapped with the suspension.

Bosa told teams that he wouldn't take the test because he was going to test positive for adderall. He is said to have ADHD or ADD, so teams wouldn't have held that positive test for adderall against him and they feel he should have just gotten a prescription for the medication. Teams believe that Bosa knew he was going to test positive for worse drugs and that is why he refused to take the test. Bosa wouldn't admit to using ecstasy or molly, but he did admit that he likes to attend raves. He claimed that he likes going to raves for the "music," which teams found to be very questionable. Molly and ecstasy are common drugs used at raves.

At Ohio State, Bosa was a roommate with Ezekiel Elliott. Apparently, their shared place was a party destination, and Bosa told teams that he had to move out and get his own place to get away from all the parties that Elliott had going on. Sources say they suspect that Elliott was also using molly and ecstasy while parting. A number of Elliott's teammates in the Combine interviews told teams that Elliott was a partier, and a unique individual. They said they hung out with him some, but he rubbed some the wrong way. Sources from multiple teams said that Elliott didn't interview well at the Combine, while Bosa had mixed feedback. The skepticism of why he goes to raves and the refusal of the drug test bothered some evaluators.

Lastly, teams said they don't expect these concerns to have an impact on the draft stock of either player. They firmly expect Bosa to go in the top 10 and Elliott to be selected in the top 20. Sources don't believe either is a candidate to slide. Teams in the 20s expect Elliott to be long gone, while sources with the Titans have said that Bosa is still in the running for the No. 1 overall pick to Tennessee, but Florida State defensive back Jalen Ramsey is the current leader with the Titans (see below). While teams suspect Bosa and Elliott of using those drugs, they don't have view them as risks like Randy Gregory last year. Teams don't think that Bosa and Elliott are serious candidates to be landing suspensions and testing positive in the NFL. Thus, both should be high draft picks in the 2016 NFL Draft.

link/http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/nfldraftrumormill.php

 

[Fredd]

I have wanted Bosa as a Cowboy in the right scenario, but as of this minute, Ramsey is the #1 guy for me...I think defense is what is needed with the #4 overall pick....so, Bosa/Ramsey in the first, Jaylon Smith in the 2nd, Connor Cook in the 3rd (something like that)

 

[TheFinisher]

There are others I'd rather have, but I can't get upset if the team drafts Bosa. He's a safe pick at a premiere position. Think his floor is Chris Long, and his ceiling might be a Michael Strahan caliber player.

Just remember, the DE with the greatest measurables of the past decade (Clowney) has been a bust so far in Houston. Bosa has fantastic film with a big motor, you could do a lot worse than adding a guy like that at LE.

 

[conner01]

I want Wentz but if he is gone Bosa is not only a good option that is rated for the spot and fills a need, he is a good disruptive player. He is not Demarcus ware but he is also not spencer either

 

[Ratmatt]

Yeah,I'm for passing on Bosa!

 

[Oh_Canada]

Hold on let me thing..... um yes id pass... wasn't a hard decision wat real impact has a rookie pass rusher had in nfl not many at all.. so id take the sure thing and yes to me Zeke is a sure thing especially with us

Short sighted thinking. Most rb's have five good years if you are lucky, that certainly doesn't justify a high pick.

 

[kazzd58]

Short sighted thinking. Most rb's have five good years if you are lucky, that certainly doesn't justify a high pick.

U r worried about wrong thing when it comes to a high pick, that doesn't matter ...

to me see I looked at Dallas what is best for us

so I have one question for you

are you trying to win now?

Because if u r I can pretty much guarantee base of the position and statistics that Elliott wld have way more of an impact on the Dallas Cowboys in 2016 season than Bosa would as a rookie DL

 

[Star Guard_31]

is nassib even on our radar? it seems we are doing the traditional cowboy draft thing-concentrate on the top 2 rds and just mail the rest of the draft in with predictable results.i swear this FO has the worst record in the nfl in rds 3-7.

I haven't heard him linked to the team. He hasn't been reported as one of their official visits as far as I know.

 

[Oh_Canada]

U r worried about wrong thing when it comes to a high pick, that doesn't matter ...

to me see I looked at Dallas what is best for us

so I have one question for you

are you trying to win now?

Because if u r I can pretty much guarantee base of the position and statistics that Elliott wld have way more of an impact on the Dallas Cowboys in 2016 season than Bosa would as a rookie DL

Really? How many rb's have much impact at all anymore. Before you go and use Demarco Murray as an example I would check to see how the Eagles did this year before doing so. Cowboys failed because they lost Romo and Dez as much as anything.

Broncos did ok with no running backs to speak of because they had a devastating pass rush.

Pats had no one of consequence at running back.

Panthers-some fossil was there starting rb.

Cards has decent running backs, one was a free agent, the other a fourth rounder.

You know what they all have? Pass rushers and depth on the dline.

Bosa and Booker in round three is better than Elliott and Nassib all day every day.

 

[kazzd58]

Really? How many rb's have much impact at all anymore. Before you go and use Demarco Murray as an example I would check to see how the Eagles did this year before doing so. Cowboys failed because they lost Romo and Dez as much as anything.

Broncos did ok with no running backs to speak of because they had a devastating pass rush.

Pats had no one of consequence at running back.

Panthers-some fossil was there starting rb.

Cards has decent running backs, one was a free agent, the other a fourth rounder.

You know what they all have? Pass rushers and depth on the dline.

Bosa and Booker in round three is better than Elliott and Nassib all day every day.