Do you really want to pay a 30 year old middling QB 50 million?

baltcowboy

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Because you aren't a child that doesn't have to worry about what mommy and daddy spends. You are an adult that knows this is a business and there is only X amount of money to be spent. If the business is ran bad, the product will be bad. So as fans we absolutely should care if Jerry is spending wisely.

I threw all sorts of red flags when he paid Dak that contract and prior to that made Zeke the #1 paid RB in the league when RB contracts were trending down and Zeke wasn't even a #1 RB.

Jerry is sloppy with his money when you become "one of his guys" and he is sllooowwww to cut people.
Dak deserved that first contract. The quarterback market is what it.is. Same for Zeke. At the time running backs were getting paid. You guys who think Dak was overpaid are clueless.
 

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oh come on get real
the boys are not a mediocre team
that would put them around 16th in the NFL

They are a top 10 team at least; arguably near top 5

PROBLEM IS that too many are happy with that and most of all JJ

No we are not TOUGH enough to win it all; we have the TALENT but the grit in the gut is not there
Have you watched the NFL teams other than the Cowboys. Half the league is bad and the other half is mediocre. San Francisco and Baltimore are the best teams and no one would call them great. The league is watered down.
 

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Do you really want to pay a 30 year old middling QB 50 million?

We are already 11 million over next years cap with players like Lamb and Parsons getting expensive new contracts or tagged. We already have no choice but to lose guys like Tyrone Smith and Biadasz because we can't afford them. Gallup is gone, Kearse is gone. We have needs at RB, C, LT, LB, DE, DT and FS. Those are expensive holes to fill and we will inevitably have to go with our guys or a bargain FA. So do you think the team is better or worse than this current squad if Dak gets paid?

I get it some of those guys aren't a big loss but you still have to replace them and you can't be active in FA when you've paid your QB like he's top 5 when he's clearly not and you have no money to spend. Some projections have Dak setting the market and being the highest paid player in the NFL, that is insane to me for what he is, INSANE!

Does anyone here legit think Dak has the makeup of a championship QB regardless of who's coaching? Even if signing him means we have to bargain shop for role players? CAN Dak Prescott carry a less than stellar team to a super bowl win and if the answer is no then you have to move on and find the guy that can.

This is a precarious off season for Dallas, this where a true GM earns their pay and we don't even have a real GM.
In my opinion he needs to be gone. If u can't trade him, u have to cut him. You absolutely cannot extend him at this point. We've seen his ceiling. He will always play bad against good teams in the playoffs. And it's not like hes just missing throws. It's in his head. He doesn't see the field at all when the pressure is elevated in a big game.

When was the last time Dallas used a high pick on a QB? Was it Quincy Carter?

It's time to stop trying to find a bargain bin QB that u hope will somehow turn into a great QB. Even if u have to give up multiple picks/players to move up, u have to get a guy that can elevate those around him. If u solve the QB, everything else seems to get better as well.
 

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i've been back and forth on dak over the years but i just can't anymore. says all the right things, is a leader and players love him but for me it's over. even before he got in the game the camera's caught him on the bench and he had this glazed look in his eyes that scared me. he has gotten better and maybe he'll win but i can't invest more money in him unless he takes a pay cut or at worse stays at his current salary which he won't and has no personal reason to. even at the time i thought it was a mistake to restructure him when the book was still out on if he was that dude. you have to leave room to maneuver instead of backing yourself into a corner with contracts.

it's drastic and i'm glad and you guys should be glad i'm not making decisions because this one hurt me more than most years and i'm overreacting. i'm ready to get a new coaching staff, take a post june 1 cut on dak to save roughly 34mil next year and play next year with trey lance or another fa qb. i build the trenches and go from there.
 

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I don’t think so. The Cowboys could designate him a June 1st cut. I believe Dak has a base salary of $18M. That would be subtracted from his cap hit. That leaves about $40M dead cap hit over two years. $20M cap hit this year, $20M cap hit next year. It can be done.
This is what I’d do.
 

SpaceCowboy99

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Dak deserved that first contract. The quarterback market is what it.is. Same for Zeke. At the time running backs were getting paid. You guys who think Dak was overpaid are clueless.
He was overpaid. I said it a year prior to him signing. 35 million tops. He also was overpaid by the terms of the agreement, no trade clause, no franchise tag, and 65 million up front.
 

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Do you really want to pay a 30 year old middling QB 50 million?

We are already 11 million over next years cap with players like Lamb and Parsons getting expensive new contracts or tagged. We already have no choice but to lose guys like Tyrone Smith and Biadasz because we can't afford them. Gallup is gone, Kearse is gone. We have needs at RB, C, LT, LB, DE, DT and FS. Those are expensive holes to fill and we will inevitably have to go with our guys or a bargain FA. So do you think the team is better or worse than this current squad if Dak gets paid?

I get it some of those guys aren't a big loss but you still have to replace them and you can't be active in FA when you've paid your QB like he's top 5 when he's clearly not and you have no money to spend. Some projections have Dak setting the market and being the highest paid player in the NFL, that is insane to me for what he is, INSANE!

Does anyone here legit think Dak has the makeup of a championship QB regardless of who's coaching? Even if signing him means we have to bargain shop for role players? CAN Dak Prescott carry a less than stellar team to a super bowl win and if the answer is no then you have to move on and find the guy that can.

This is a precarious off season for Dallas, this where a true GM earns their pay and we don't even have a real GM.
I didn't want to pay a 26 year old one either
 

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The Dak haters come out 6 times a year it seems. Let’s tell the truth for once guys, Dak is second team All-Pro and is not middle of the pack or below average. He played like a top 3 quarterback this season.
I don't care if he is Tom Friggin Brady during the season. He isn't Tom Brady against good teams or in the playoffs. He must go.
 

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The Dak haters come out 6 times a year it seems. Let’s tell the truth for once guys, Dak is second team All-Pro and is not middle of the pack or below average. He played like a top 3 quarterback this season.
This dude apologized to “Dak haters” in a post a couple years ago for being wrong about Dak.

Then hopped right back on the Dak train the next season and acts like this.

No shame at all in Dak over Dallas fans.
 

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Yes. There is no other reasonable option to field a playoff team next season.

Structure the extension so that we can get out after 2 years - Dak should accept that given his self critique after the game.
I begrudgingly agree. But hopefully we have a new head coach and staff and a rejuvenated running game to take the pressure off him come post season.
 

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If you want to really understand the "character" of this man.. just look at his press conference.. somewhat takes accountability.. I sucked but then mentions that he "got going" later in the game...?? I mean really... you mean the last 6 minutes of the game when GB was already thinking of next week and you were playing against a third string unit playing loose prevent...? That is what he thinks finding his rhythm looks like??

Only a selfish ******* stays in the game and tries to stat pad long after the contest is over.

We made him one of the highest paid guys in history despite him doing nothing.. and he wants round 2. We've gone through 4 play callers, 2 head coaches.. numerous WR, TEs and RBs.. we've dumbed down the play book.. this entire organisation has spent 8 years trying to find a way to win with a QB that they are paying absolute top dollar for?? Is that a sick joke? Your highest paid dude is meant to make the team better.. he is meant to be the guy that when everyone else is struggling.. he puts the team on his shoulders and finds a way. Instead our QB folds and starts crying on the side line... and then pats himself on the back for getting some late yards.

Zeke made Dak look good. The Oline made Dak look good. Cooper made Dak look good. CeeDee made Dak look good. Every single time that dak has looked serviceable.. there has always been someone else doing the heavy lifting.

The sooner we get rid of this cancer the better. Dak must go.
 

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Unfortunately they will. If Dak was decent guy he would take lot less and friendly deal to build better team. He knows he has no chance to win making that much. His current contract is more than he should get. We are basically screwed.
We aren't screwed...Jerry and Stephen are though!
 

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Dak should have a heavy performance incentive-laden contract where it’s all about achieving certain numbers against above .500 teams and it needs to take into account stat padding when the game is out of reach.
 

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The Dak haters come out 6 times a year it seems. Let’s tell the truth for once guys, Dak is second team All-Pro and is not middle of the pack or below average. He played like a top 3 quarterback this season.
Yes that was a top 3 performance Sunday, lmao. Dak is a middle level QB who stat pats against the poor teams and fails miserably when it counts. If Jerry had a brain cell left he wouldn’t be in this position with Dakchoka. Extend Dak it’s just Extending mediocrity
 

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We did not witness a performance this weekend from Dak that was worthy of his current salary, let alone one that warrants a raise. Stats in the regular season are nice but, the playoffs are where it counts and there is a clear pattern there. Dak simply has not performed in the playoffs. Is he alone? No, certainly not but, as the highest paid player and the QB, he is the face of this team. Everything was set up so nicely for us this year. We enter the playoffs as the #2 seed with the possibility of two home games and the best chance in forever to get to the NFCCG and this is what they roll out? Pitiful. Gutless. 100% unacceptable and insulting to every fan that follows this team.

It is time to start over.
 

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Dak was overpaid when he signed this current contract, is still overpaid, and will continue to be overpaid if he is extended or resigned to 60 million/year.

The main problem isn’t Dak in and of itself. I think every QB in the league is overpaid. The spiraling QB market is a distorted bubble that keeps inflating to absurd levels with every crop of FA QBs signing second and third contracts. Some outside the box thinking could possibly fix this current football economics paradigm by say, excluding a QB’s salary, or maybe a portion of it, from cap calculations. Doubt that ever flies but holy crap, something needs to be done. Teams find themselves in a postion where signing their guy at QB plausibly will make their team worse because of the cap hit and the overall reduction in talent that occurs as a result. Also, teams find themselves having to sign a second contract QB to a huge contract before they actually know what they have on their hands, like philly did with Hurts and Wentz. Teams are in the ridiculous position of having to pay enormous amounts of money for a QB before they know if he is actually worth the price tag. Something like the “rookie window” shouldn’t be a thing in the NFL, but it is and it’s currently a viable strategy for a championship.

QB is the obviously the most important position in the sport, maybe the most important position of any sport, and it’s having a negative selection pressure on contract negotiations that is leading to average and above average QBs getting wildly overpaid and elite QBs getting mildly overpaid relative to their actual production on the field.

I think Dak can win a SB. He’s good enough to do that, but he needs to realize that his contract is going to be a huge factor in whether or not he sniffs a championship. It IS possible for a person to have a critical self reflective moment and understand in real terms what they do and don’t bring to the table and in Dak’s case, he could sign a contract commensurate with his goal of winning a title and making decent money while doing so.

Or…

Dak could maximize every cent possible in an overinflated QB market and instead of hanging a 7th SB banner, we could hang a banner celebrating Dak making 60+ million/year and little to no championship success on the field.
 
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