Do you think BP spends big money on FA this

[theogt]

Ah I see.

They need to realize guys like Reed are FREE safeties and that the position is clearly more of a jack-of-all-trades kind of guy.

#1 seems the most viable since his weak spot is coverage but he hasnt had a problem until this year.

I am still sticking by him until this seasons... espicially if the scheme changes and he still blows. I would definitely not run him out of town just yet.

We all know that Roy isn't a cover corner. Though he's expected to be one, he just isn't. Compared to the other safeties in the league, though, he can cover. This has been proven statistically time and time again. I should have logged the posts, but I didn't.

 

[smarta5150]

We all know that Roy isn't a cover corner. Though he's expected to be one, he just isn't. Compared to the other safeties in the league, though, he can cover. This has been proven statistically time and time again. I should have logged the posts, but I didn't.

It doesnt matter about the stats and logged posts.

It really is only a select few that are really RW haters (and most of them exist only here).

Since the few regurgitate and post 1,000 times how bad he is I think it seems like there are alot more people who hate him.

 

[theogt]

It doesnt matter about the stats and logged posts.

It really is only a select few that are really RW haters (and most of them exist only here).

Since the few regurgitate and post 1,000 times how bad he is I think it seems like there are alot more people who hate him.

Well, I would think that TDs given up, first downs given up, yardage given up, and completion percentages given up would be relevant to a discussion about whether he can cover.

But yeah, people will dismiss stats, no matter how conclusive they are, when they don't support their conclusions.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think our first signing will be LB Reggie Torbor. He will be a younger depth add at LB. Parcells mentioned him after the draft as well. Not flashy, but more likely.

great find, and Torbor is more of a 3-4 OLB than he is 4-3 OLB, I like that idea

OG Kris Dielman/OG Eric Steinbach
FS Deon Grant
LB Reggie Torbor

nice

 

[theogt]

great find, and Torbor is more of a 3-4 OLB than he is 4-3 OLB, I like that idea

OG Kris Dielman/OG Eric Steinbach
FS Deon Grant
LB Reggie Torbor

nice

Two questions: Why on earth would you think he is a great find? And, why on earth would you think he is a 3-4 OLB rather than a 4-3 OLB?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Two questions: Why on earth would you think he is a great find? And, why on earth would you think he is a 3-4 OLB rather than a 4-3 OLB?

he's not a great find, but natedawg remembering that BP was commenting about him in the past, so he might be a target, was a great find, IMO at least

and he was a pass-rushing DE at Auburn, that's why I think he's more suited to play 3-4 OLB than 4-3 OLB

 

[Doomsday]

Honestly outside of maybe a middle of the road offensive lineman, and maybe a middle of the road tight end, I want us to stay out of free agency at all costs.

Free agents do not equal championships.

Good drafts however do equal championships.

We need to draft better players and develop them properly and then ultimately give them time.

No more free agents.

You really think it will be more productive to go into the season with $15 million in CAP space?

 

[Oh_Canada]

I love it how anyone who thinks Roy is overrated is somehow a "hater". Roy was my favourite player on the team, but I watch the games and what I see is the back of his jersey on most occassions because Roy is following some TE/WE into the endzone....that is not my idea of what a safety should be. This baloney about scheme, teammates and pressure is a good excuse if your Roy's mother, to me the problem is that he is overweight, poor at recognition and slow. It's that simple.

 

[BulletBob]

I have definitely warmed to the notion of moving A Henry to FS.

While even decent CBs are rare in this day & age, and you hate to lose even a mediocre CB (I think Henry is above average, by the way), if we draft a solid-to-good CB, then the move might be perfectly timed.

It would give Roy a veteran player with which to tag-team, and someone with whom he already has a great relationship in the locker room.

It may provide Roy (and the coaching staff) the security blanket they need to start playing Roy more aggressively.

I'd love to see Mr. Watkins step up, but he does not provide the "Woody" factor that an A Henry would.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I'm ok with moving Henry over....but I do think Watkins is going to make a leap forward next year. If anything it would make for an interesting camp battle because I don't think Watkins will roll over for Henry.

 

[conner01]

other than if a guy like thomas came free i don't expect much in f.a.
this is a weak f.a. class and you can't keep signing all these guys every year and then cutting them 2 yrs later. it just won't work. build a team with the draft, use f.a. to get waht you can't draft and what we need is readily availible in the yrs draft except a dynamic pass rusher

 

[Oh_Canada]

other than if a guy like thomas came free i don't expect much in f.a.
this is a weak f.a. class and you can't keep signing all these guys every year and then cutting them 2 yrs later. it just won't work. build a team with the draft, use f.a. to get waht you can't draft and what we need is readily availible in the yrs draft except a dynamic pass rusher

I don't think there is any harm in using both FA and the draft, though I agree the draft is what should your core be comprised of.

The Patriots are great at adding pieces through FA, but rarely do they overspend. On the flipside they are not afraid to let go of players who become too expensive and are willing to deal established guys for draft picks in order to keep there roster young, and hungry.....which is why I am all for dealing Roy Williams.

 

[theebs]

You really think it will be more productive to go into the season with $15 million in CAP space?

I think its more productive to draft well and develop players and have patience than blow your wad every march on guys looking for paydays.

Hard to build a team constantly changing parts every march and bringing in new supposed saviors.

I dont care if we have 30 mil in cap space and nor will anyone else if we draft well and continue to build around the young players.

Chasing your tail gets old after a while. Every year a new wr, new linebacker...etc......at some point it has to end and you have to tell yourself you have to find the guys on your own.

Look at what baltimore, new england and san diego do. Draft, develop and be patient.

The talent is in the draft, the future is in the draft.....march is a dangerous game and most of the time just sets you back.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think its more productive to draft well and develop players and have patience than blow your wad every march on guys looking for paydays.

Hard to build a team constantly changing parts every march and bringing in new supposed saviors.

I dont care if we have 30 mil in cap space and nor will anyone else if we draft well and continue to build around the young players.

Chasing your tail gets old after a while. Every year a new wr, new linebacker...etc......at some point it has to end and you have to tell yourself you have to find the guys on your own.

Look at what baltimore, new england and san diego do. Draft, develop and be patient.

The talent is in the draft, the future is in the draft.....march is a dangerous game and most of the time just sets you back.

I agree the primary talent needs to come from the draft but you can't overlook FA. Even the Pats use FA like Larry Izzo, Ray Mickens, Jr Seau as well as some others.

 

[theebs]

I agree the primary talent needs to come from the draft but you can't overlook FA. Even the Pats use FA like Larry Izzo, Ray Mickens, Jr Seau as well as some others.

In between role players are fine...no more superstars...or bloated contracts.

the eagles constantly have about 20 mil in cap space and it is working out pretty good for them.

You build your team and take your shot and then if you need one part at some point you have all the ammo you need to get them.

 

[Doomsday101]

In between role players are fine...no more superstars...or bloated contracts.

the eagles constantly have about 20 mil in cap space and it is working out pretty good for them.

You build your team and take your shot and then if you need one part at some point you have all the ammo you need to get them.

As I said I agree that you build through the draft but if you have a chance to improve your team with a few FA pickups then it would be foolish to pass it up.