Do you think the game has passed by our Coordinators?

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Our coordinators aren't bad, that being said, there are a lot of young coordinators out there that have been doing a great job as of late. Do you think the game is starting to pass them by. They were a combined 21-63 as head coaches. Not calling for anyone to get fired, just interested in your thoughts.
 

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I think we're running schemes that are somewhat dated given the way rules have changed over the last 20 or so years to favor the passing game. Not to say they can't possibly work, obviously they can to some degree, but they may not be the ideal for football in 2017.
 
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Our coordinators aren't bad, that being said, there are a lot of young coordinators out there that have been doing a great job as of late. Do you think the game is starting to pass them by. They were a combined 21-63 as head coaches. Not calling for anyone to get fired, just interested in your thoughts.
Unless Marinelli retires, I don't see any changes to the coordinators positions.

Whether people like it or not, Linehan gets a lot of credit for Dak's success. He has a contract for next year. He is staying.
 

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Rod maybe, but Linehan? Seriously? For the first 10 weeks he was straight up bamboozling the NFL. We would have guys running with the ball in one direction and the defense would be running in the other. It was like Bad News Bears. I don't think this team even makes the playoffs without the job Linehan did this year.
 

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Linehan did better this year but he's still too predictable imo.

Wish rod would blitz more
 

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Linehan did a great job for most of the year in terms of the plays he designed and how he called them.

Marinelli is more of a technique coach than he is a tactician, but I like that, too. I'm firmly in the camp that the issue in Dallas has been the quality of the defensive talent overall for years, now. Marinelli has done a fine job getting very average players to play average football between the 20s and to tighten up and play great in the red zone. We simply lack impact players on that side of the ball. Everybody we have not named 'Lee' is fairly unremarkable.

I also think the mix of experienced coordinators with Jason is a pretty good way to structure things. Our staff is very stable, enjoys being here, is doing a good job developing the talent we have, they all seem to get along, and the players want to be here. We're a contender already, and the glaringly obvious opportunity to upgrade is with the defensive talent on one side of the ball. Specifically, the talent in the front 7.

We need to stay the course and benefit from the stability we've invested in here over the last several years. If we're bringing in new coaching talent, it ought to be in the form of the position group coaches like we've done at OL and with the DBs and will do with the TE coach replacement this offseason. Let those guys develop and then be in position to promote from within if the coordinators get poached or retire or lose their marbles.
 

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Our coordinators aren't bad, that being said, there are a lot of young coordinators out there that have been doing a great job as of late. Do you think the game is starting to pass them by. They were a combined 21-63 as head coaches. Not calling for anyone to get fired, just interested in your thoughts.
Good topic bro! I'm curious as well.
 

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Let's be honest Rod Marinelli hasn't had any success since he left Tampa. We keep bringing in DC's that have flamed out elsewhere and end up flaming out here. The defense has the same damn issues it's had under the previous DC's. We need to hire some younger coordinators who are more in touch with todays game. The hottest head coaching candidates out there are young coordinators. We're just spinning our wheels trying to recapture past glory with coordinators like Marinelli.
 

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Two rookie offensive players were talked about as being MVP candidates, so hard to say that our offensive schemes aren't effective. On defense Ben Mayowa was our leader in sacks with 6. Do you think that is an outdated scheme or do you think that Rod is working miracles given how little he has to work with?
 
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Let's be honest Rod Marinelli hasn't had any success since he left Tampa. We keep bringing in DC's that have flamed out elsewhere and end up flaming out here. The defense has the same damn issues it's had under the previous DC's. We need to hire some younger coordinators who are more in touch with todays game. The hottest head coaching candidates out there are young coordinators. We're just spinning our wheels trying to recapture past glory with coordinators like Marinelli.
If the same problems arise with different DC's, that tends to imply that the talent on the field is lacking rather than the coach himself.
 

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Rod maybe, but Linehan? Seriously? For the first 10 weeks he was straight up bamboozling the NFL. We would have guys running with the ball in one direction and the defense would be running in the other. It was like Bad News Bears. I don't think this team even makes the playoffs without the job Linehan did this year.
What good is bamboozling the NFL when you throw it all out the window in the playoffs?
 

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If the same problems arise with different DC's, that tends to imply that the talent on the field is lacking rather than the coach himself.

The talent is clearly lacking that's obvious but the DC's we've had have had some input in the drafting of some of these players and in free agency.
 

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I think we're running schemes that are somewhat dated given the way rules have changed over the last 20 or so years to favor the passing game. Not to say they can't possibly work, obviously they can to some degree, but they may not be the ideal for football in 2017.
I've been saying this exact thing the entire Garrett era.
 

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Our coordinators aren't bad, that being said, there are a lot of young coordinators out there that have been doing a great job as of late. Do you think the game is starting to pass them by. They were a combined 21-63 as head coaches. Not calling for anyone to get fired, just interested in your thoughts.

You have to have an incredibly talented roster to pull off what we try to pull off.

Our offense has almost every element you could ask for.

The defense is lacking but they do a solid job. They just let us down against A-Rod.


I've said for years that im ok with our defense as long as we stay away from truly elite QBs and then I worry.
 

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The talent is clearly lacking that's obvious but the DC's we've had have had some input in the drafting of some of these players and in free agency.
This offense is far from lacking. 23 touches for EE had nothing to do with lack of talent. It was more of lack of brains on the OC
 

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Our coordinators aren't bad, that being said, there are a lot of young coordinators out there that have been doing a great job as of late. Do you think the game is starting to pass them by. They were a combined 21-63 as head coaches. Not calling for anyone to get fired, just interested in your thoughts.

I think so!!!!! A 13-3 record says to me that they are falling way behind the times. Plus they had TWO rookies that were in key spots and they still looked good on offense. I'm telling ya, I think Jason and Scott should be relieved of their duties IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!
 

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This offense is far from lacking. 23 touches for EE had nothing to do with lack of talent. It was more of lack of brains on the OC

I wasn't talking about the offense, I was talking about the defense. I made no mention of the OC or are offense.
 
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