Does anyone think that Super Bowls don't grow on trees?

[Nightman]

The fact that we do have a promising team is why so many of want a real coach. Garrett squanders anywhere from 2 - 4 games a year with unbelievably pathetic game / clock management. We should already of had the division locked up this year, even with our porous defense and injury bug, had Garrett had the sense to manage just one of the games correctly that he cost us. On that same note, it has been the exact same situation in all three years he has been the non-interim head coach. In short we want a coach that is not learning on the job.

So he gets no credit for the close games that we have won or the complete attitude change. The stupid penalties are down and we seem to be hitting on "football" players in the draft. Guys that love the game. Injuries have been a major issue as well. I think they should stay the course and ride out the Romo era with Garrett at the helm.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Sure, but there's a difference between winning one and having a chance to win one. Yes, I agree, winning a Super Bowl is very hard to do and people like Peyton probably shouldn't be judged for only having one. BUT Peyton has had a chance to win one every single year since his rookie year. Same with Brady besides the one year they missed the playoffs (after their first Super Bowl). We've only ever had a Super Bowl caliber team once in Romo's career (the 13-3 season). Finishing 8-8 every year isn't impressive. Finishing about 12-4 for a decade straight (what Peyton did) is impressive.

Well that's because Peyton is the best QB to ever play the game and Brady is probably somewhere comfortably in the top 5.

Romo is not.

If we had Peyton no amount of Jerry meddling would have kept this team from contending every single year for it all.

It's the difference between being very smart (Romo) and being a genius (Manning & Brady).

 

[JBS]

I don't think Super Bowls grow on trees

 

[cml750]

So he gets no credit for the close games that we have won or the complete attitude change. The stupid penalties are down and we seem to be hitting on "football" players in the draft. Guys that love the game. Injuries have been a major issue as well. I think they should stay the course and ride out the Romo era with Garrett at the helm.

Most close games we win are from Romo pulling out a miracle like last week and he almost screwed that up by calling a time out until Romo stopped him. I will admit the penalties are better but come on, his idiotic clock management has cost us big time. I had thought maybe the issue was with him pulling double duty as HC and OC, that he was overwhelmed, and was desperately hoping he would do better if he was just a HC but he is just as bad if not worse. I just can't ever see us winning a SB with a coach who can't manage a game clock.

If we do keep him, Jerry needs to hire a clock management coach and not let Garrett have any control in that department.

 

[Coy]

What championship games have the Chargers played in? (outside of 94) So you rather be teams with NO super bowls that a team that has 5 in their showcase? really?

2007 @Patriots, know your NFL history before you question bro.
And we are talking about the last few years not about each team's history, common man.

 

[Coy]

I think that is the whole point of this thread, they have been close. But based on the hysteria and hyperbole around here, you would think it was the Campo era again. The NFC East is a very tough division and playing for the title 3 straight years in Week 17 isn't terrible. It sucks we have lost, but don't act like it means nothing.

But it's been more frustrating and therefore more dissapointing than the campo era because we knew we were close, in the campo era we knew we were playing to get a better draft spot.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Don't grow on tress and it's actually a tough road to win one as the reason why we haven't been, instead of blaming Jerry or the Coach every year?

Think about the San Diego, Bengals, Falcons

These organizations somewhat mirror us. They have talent but either just miss the playoffs or get knocked out in the first round.

The reason, winning a championship is hard. Like DeWayne Wade told LeBron after their first title together.

But does anyone ask Arthur Blank to sell the team because they are coming up short? No. Do you even know the names of the owners of the Bengals (Mike Brown) and only "hard knocks fans would really know that" or Chargers (Alex Spanos)

But you could say that those owners aren't' GM/Presidents...oh wait Mike Brown is the president of the Bengals. Or we can take Commanders owner Dan Snyder who isn't a GM or president and the fans still outcry from Snyder to sell the team.

The only reason we pick on Jerry and Washingtonians pick on Snyder is because they are well known owners.

So lets tackle the coaches they brought in (as they do have a say in that) due to this "gotta have it now" feeling in the U.S. every team thinks that they are rightly entitled ti a Super Bowl every 4 years.When that doesn't work. (because building a TEAM isn't a 3 year process) these owners are pressured into firing what could have been a good head coach. (See the Jets stint with Pete Carroll and the Browns with Bill B.)

In the infancy of the NFL, teams kept coaches for more or less UNTIL they won, Chuck Noll (Steelers) was HC of the Steelers and didn't start winning until 1972 (his 3rd season) before that Noll won only 12 of 32 games coached. Laundry only won 9 games (within 3 years). In today NFL these coaches would have been fired.

The bottom line is that we have to be patient. I think a lot of think is karma but not in a bad way. think of all the teams in sports you know that have few champions. After the Steelers won their 4 titles you couldn't find them in the 80's. In basket ball when Bird and Magic left the Celtics and Lakers where at the bottom of the totem pole fir about 8 years or so. Even tho this team didn't win the Super Bowl but the Bills made it to 4 straight Super Bowls, and have only won one playoff game since.

So does anyone think that it's not solely on us. However the fact that Super Bowls aren't easy to by but we will get on soon?

Nice post, but with the expanded play-off criteria, there have been teams that are 9-7 getting into the tournament. So from that perspective, instead of it being more difficult, that should pave the way for a team with a premium quarterback like Romo being able to get into the post season race more than what this team has experienced over the last seventeen years since the Jimmy team was broken up and Jerry is driving the starship.

Blunting the truth by coming up with angles to make castor oil taste better doesn't do much but look ridiculous.

The truth is the team has been mired in mediocre. No amount of sugar coating it changes the facts.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I think that is the whole point of this thread, they have been close. But based on the hysteria and hyperbole around here, you would think it was the Campo era again. The NFC East is a very tough division and playing for the title 3 straight years in Week 17 isn't terrible. It sucks we have lost, but don't act like it means nothing.

Then why the hell did the guy that won it twice in 3 seasons was shown the door and was replaced with a guy that cant even break 500 but has to have more time because winning the division is hard?

If it is so dam hard, why the hell did the guy that won it twice in 3 seasons was shown the door? And before anybody says the team quit in Green Bay, I saw just as much quit in New Orleans and in Chicago. Even Rowan on Talking Cowboys said players were just jogging around the field in Chicago and acted like they just wanted to go home.

There is absolutely no logical way that anybody can argu that Wade had to go after 3 full seasons and Garrett needs more time after 3 full seasons giving the accomplishments and lack of accomplishments of their respective resumes.

 

[Nightman]

Then why the hell did the guy that won it twice in 3 seasons was shown the door and was replaced with a guy that cant even break 500 but has to have more time because winning the division is hard?

If it is so dam hard, why the hell did the guy that won it twice in 3 seasons was shown the door? And before anybody says the team quit in Green Bay, I saw just as much quit in New Orleans and in Chicago. Even Rowan on Talking Cowboys said players were just jogging around the field in Chicago and acted like they just wanted to go home.

There is absolutely no logical way that anybody can argu that Wade had to go after 3 full seasons and Garrett needs more time after 3 full seasons giving the accomplishments and lack of accomplishments of their respective resumes.

It's a good point, but that's not the argument right now. Would changing the entire coaching staff improve the team's record in the next 3 years?

 

[TrailBlazer]

No kidding superbowls don't grow on trees. I'd settle for some playoff wins at this point. Any sign of improvements or hope. Sadly, I don't see it happening until major changes take place.

Do mediocre seasons grow on trees? Seems like it.

 

[Hoov]

I might send in my resume to be game/clock manger coach if we keep Garrett another year because Lord knows Garrett needs A LOT of help in that department.

Probably could do a better job than romo too. Since he does have the ability to call a timeout or call a run vs pass play.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I think that is the whole point of this thread, they have been close. But based on the hysteria and hyperbole around here, you would think it was the Campo era again. The NFC East is a very tough division and playing for the title 3 straight years in Week 17 isn't terrible. It sucks we have lost, but don't act like it means nothing.

The NFC East is a very tough division?

 

[mrmojo]

This isn't the NFC East of the 80s or 90s or even 5 years ago. We had a chance in the last 3 years to win and hide with the Division crown but have failed each year...now were playing in another win or go home game. This is as bad as losing the 3 straight NFC Championship games but at least we got there and were close to a SB, were not even sniffing the SB now.

 

[Ratmatt]

Don't grow on tress and it's actually a tough road to win one as the reason why we haven't been, instead of blaming Jerry or the Coach every year?

Think about the San Diego, Bengals, Falcons

These organizations somewhat mirror us. They have talent but either just miss the playoffs or get knocked out in the first round.

The reason, winning a championship is hard. Like DeWayne Wade told LeBron after their first title together.

But does anyone ask Arthur Blank to sell the team because they are coming up short? No. Do you even know the names of the owners of the Bengals (Mike Brown) and only "hard knocks fans would really know that" or Chargers (Alex Spanos)

But you could say that those owners aren't' GM/Presidents...oh wait Mike Brown is the president of the Bengals. Or we can take Commanders owner Dan Snyder who isn't a GM or president and the fans still outcry from Snyder to sell the team.

The only reason we pick on Jerry and Washingtonians pick on Snyder is because they are well known owners.

So lets tackle the coaches they brought in (as they do have a say in that) due to this "gotta have it now" feeling in the U.S. every team thinks that they are rightly entitled ti a Super Bowl every 4 years.When that doesn't work. (because building a TEAM isn't a 3 year process) these owners are pressured into firing what could have been a good head coach. (See the Jets stint with Pete Carroll and the Browns with Bill B.)

In the infancy of the NFL, teams kept coaches for more or less UNTIL they won, Chuck Noll (Steelers) was HC of the Steelers and didn't start winning until 1972 (his 3rd season) before that Noll won only 12 of 32 games coached. Laundry only won 9 games (within 3 years). In today NFL these coaches would have been fired.

The bottom line is that we have to be patient. I think a lot of think is karma but not in a bad way. think of all the teams in sports you know that have few champions. After the Steelers won their 4 titles you couldn't find them in the 80's. In basket ball when Bird and Magic left the Celtics and Lakers where at the bottom of the totem pole fir about 8 years or so. Even tho this team didn't win the Super Bowl but the Bills made it to 4 straight Super Bowls, and have only won one playoff game since.

So does anyone think that it's not solely on us. However the fact that Super Bowls aren't easy to by but we will get on soon?

If you think that the only reason Jerry Jones is picked on because he is a well known owner,then you have absolutely no understanding of what your watching..Go find someone to explain the game to you,and how football teams are assembled,then come on back,and talk some football.

 

[BigStar]

AND thats the thing, of course he gonna fire the HC based on fan outcry

JG would've fired Wade after that 44-6 if that were the case. The team actually took the East the next season and looked promising. Then...2010 happened. Sometimes sticking with an inferior coach may tease you but in the end you know you got a dud.