Does Dez Fit?

[xwalker]

Dez is a talented head case who plays his best when he doesn't allow defenders to get under his skin. When he gets frustrated he's not very good and becomes a detriment.

He also has to be involved early or he loses focus. There were games where it appeared that Linehan called a short simple route for him just to wake him up. They would throw him something easy and a play or two later try a big play to him.

 

[SDCowboy]

Yes of course Dez fits. I feel he needs to be more consistent, but he most certainly fits.

 

[T-RO]

Yes of course Dez fits. I feel he needs to be more consistent, but he most certainly fits.

Yup. He can do things no one on our offense can do. Let's forget about the salary (water under the bridge)...forget about trading him (won't happen)...

And enjoy what he can do on the field...which is often spectacular.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Yeah I remember when Dez was in his first few years, him and Romo were often on the wrong page. It took 2.5 years for them to develop that deadly chemistry.

It seems like him and Dak are trending that direction already.

I was at the game against the lions, right after the PI you can see Dak go up to Dez, I'm sure it was something about if they covered him like that it was coming back shoulder. Next thing you know it's a TD from 4 to 88.

 

[robjay04]

He's not in Julio Jones,Antonio Bryant or A.J.Green' level but he is better than the tier 3 guys.

Better than Green. The rest I'll give you.

Dez was having a much better career on paper until the 2014 injury and revolving door quarterbacks.

I would probably say Brown, Jones and yes Odell are more dangerous players at their position. There is another tier after that but I think Dez, when healthy and on the same page as his QB, is near the top.

Brown is considered the best by most everyone, if Big Ben retires this season, he won't be the same until he gets on the same page as his QB. See DeAndre Hopkins last year.

 

[Jake]

To start, I want to say that I'm a Dez fan but I have to wonder, does he fit what THIS offense really wants to do?

Hear me out. When the ball had to be thrown 30-40+ times per game matched with Romo's QB style, Dez made all the sense in the world. Signing him to the big deal made a ton of sense. He was destined to compete with Julio Jones for the best receiver in the NFL crown.

Now, the offense has changed with Dak and Zeke. We are similar to the Seahawks from their super bowl years and I almost feel that we would be better with Williams and another receiver like him(Doug Baldwin type) on the other side with Beasley and Witten to move the chains. We are paying Dez a ton to be just a GOOD player in this offense.

I believe that Dez is as talented as just about anybody in the league but this ball control, grind it out offense doesn't utilize him. Is it worth it to pay him for an offense that doesn't use his full potential?

Sure, there may be a game here or there where we bust the glass and he has a huge game or Dak may learn to push the ball down the field more.

I'm sure we won't unload him but Dez was the picture of a 'Romo friendly' player...would it be unfair to reason that moving on from both of them would make a lot of sense(especially for the right compensation)?

I get what you're saying, but don't underestimate how much his presence influences the defense. He may not catch as many passes, but he's a threat the defense has to consider on every play. That benefits Dak, Zeke, Beasley, Witten, and Williams.

 

[ShiningStar]

I dont have a problem with the question, but my answer is the same. I think it comes down to coaching. Linehan wants to get cute when theres times you dont get cute. Garrett needs to stress to the coaches , all teams step up to play Dallas, "dont get cute" A trick play here or there fine, but if its working, stick with it. A problem for us is what other teams would kill for, a great RB, a great WR and soon to be great QB. What does our coach do, go against our strengths and try to beat the teams other ways. We barely used McFadden, for some reason the legend of Dunbar continues on, and we arent utizling enough of the TEs. When Dak was hitting Swaim, boom, had to change that up. Start Witten start witten start witten, that way when Witten is tired we ll throw to him 3 times, no one will see that coming. BTW, when is the parade for starting Witten, i really want to make that.

This is the a problem for Dallas where another OC trying to keep is job is saying "they cant stop Zeke, screw it, run him, than run MCFadden, than run the kitchen sink, than run Zeke again"
Try to get it through his head that running is a good thing. For some reason we want to not take advantage of moving Dez around, or looking for the battles we can dominate. We d rather keep it generic making it easier for defensive coaches to say "good news guys, they are playing Dez, we ll double him and they ll either force it, or can throw it to T Will. bwhahaha, get ready for 3 and out, no penalties, Dallas got this one."

Linehan did ok vs average teams, but the NFCE is not going to stay static. Those organizations right now are looking into where they can upgrade and they are going to upgrade you wont hear the skins saying " Well lets put everything into defense and hope the offense works" no they will get a WR or two and help out their qb. The Giants are going to say "hell we beat Dallas twice, we dont need to upgrade" No, they are plotting and planning right now.

Something is going to break if we trot out the same team hoping to see the same results. We have to get the coaches to change its up and start using our strengths instead of saying "we ll i ll be damned, this working, we better do something stat"

 

[Everson24]

Dez is not the easiest WR to get in sync with. He doesn't get much separation and most QBs like to see some space between the DB and WR. It took Tony a couple of years to figure out that Dez was technically always open.

I love Dez in this offense because I know we always have a chance to hit on a quick TD from anywhere on the field. Dak and him will flourish next year I believe and this offense could really take off.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I'm a huge Dez fan and I think he fits and is very beneficial to this team.

However, I do sometimes wonder that 3 game stretch without him we completely dominated the competition (Green Bay and cincy). Doesn't mean we are better without him but we did look good without him.

And we dominated Detroit and Tampa the Vikings and Pittsburg and the 2nd half of the playoff game. What's the point?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

He also has to be involved early or he loses focus. There were games where it appeared that Linehan called a short simple route for him just to wake him up. They would throw him something easy and a play or two later try a big play to him.

Your opinion on Dez is invalid.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

And we dominated Detroit and Tampa the Vikings and Pittsburg and the 2nd half of the playoff game. What's the point?

GB and Cincy we were up by 3-4 possessions. We never we're up that much in Pittsburgh Vikings or GB playoff game. That's what I meant by domination.

 

[Cowboys_22]

Dez is one of the triplets, sure he fits.

 

[Verdict]

To OP...Dez has a pricey contract that would be difficult to trade.

I like the chance he has to improve and really help the team. His route running can still improve if he works at it.

He was very productive in our playoff game - 9 catches 132 yards. 2 TD. Nice. and I like the odds of him coming up big in 2017.

It's not that Dez totally sucks. The problem is that he is a ****** route runner for the amount of money that he is being paid and he disappears in some of the biggest games which isn't necessarily due to the opponent scheming him out of the game.

Dez is s guy you want on your team. He would make an outstanding #2 receiver on a team with AJ Green or Julio Jones as the number #1. But as a true number on every he isn't really consistently dominant. He can be best one on one by a top flight corner which should not be the case if he is being paid $70 million.

 

[Verdict]

He also has to be involved early or he loses focus. There were games where it appeared that Linehan called a short simple route for him just to wake him up. They would throw him something easy and a play or two later try a big play to him.

Agreed. $70 million should have his head in the game without all of the baby sitting.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Some people's children...

 

[Thomas82]

That's on coaching though they did a great job in his absence but you can only mask a lack of talent @ WR for so long. W/o Dez (long term), Zeke is looking @ 9 in the box every play and the front 7 will go all out on Dak similar to Romo bf the running game. His presence is critical (in big games, like the playoffs where he gave it his all to keep us in the game).

Dez has had some injuries, but other OCs find ways to get your #1 looks while we mainly don't; taking what they give us offense (JG) unless you count the telegraphed WR screen or flat passes. We let the good Ds dictate generally where we go with our passing game, and that just reaps of laziness to me tbh on behalf of the coaching staff (how about a little of both) in terms of using your top resource to expand the offense to make it consistent and playoff ready despite D; Prescott's safety blanket should be our best resource @ WR. I have to give them credit for developing Dak as a rook admittedly.

Beasley is a niche player (love what he adds though) that got figured out w/o a #1, and TW/Butler are inconsistent and no real threats to secondaries. Witten came up big as he always does, hope he gives us another great season but has also slowed down considerably for seam route options. This pertains mainly to our lackadaisical start in our playoff games the last three attempts; DET included. If Dez is purposely involved (via gameplanning, not focing into coverage) you would see a more consistent contribution.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Thomas82]

Did Michael Irvin fit in in the offense with Emmitt Smith?

The 1995 season says he did. The Playmaker caught 111 passes while Emmitt had 377 carries.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

That's on coaching though they did a great job in his absence but you can only mask a lack of talent @ WR for so long. W/o Dez (long term), Zeke is looking @ 9 in the box every play and the front 7 will go all out on Dak similar to Romo bf the running game. His presence is critical (in big games, like the playoffs where he gave it his all to keep us in the game).

Dez has had some injuries, but other OCs find ways to get your #1 looks while we mainly don't; taking what they give us offense (JG) unless you count the telegraphed WR screen or flat passes. We let the good Ds dictate generally where we go with our passing game, and that just reaps of laziness to me tbh on behalf of the coaching staff (how about a little of both) in terms of using your top resource to expand the offense to make it consistent and playoff ready despite D; Prescott's safety blanket should be our best resource @ WR. I have to give them credit for developing Dak as a rook admittedly.

Beasley is a niche player (love what he adds though) that got figured out w/o a #1, and TW/Butler are inconsistent and no real threats to secondaries. Witten came up big as he always does, hope he gives us another great season but has also slowed down considerably for seam route options. This pertains mainly to our lackadaisical start in our playoff games the last three attempts; DET included. If Dez is purposely involved (via gameplanning, not focing into coverage) you would see a more consistent contribution.

Well said.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Clearly you missed the GB playoff game? He fits extremely well.

 

[LocimusPrime]

WR's have much less value than DE's. Consider trading Bryant and Romo or a pick to move up for a hardnosed DL! It makes some sense. Bryant has a killer game against Green Bay...excellent big time RW type game...Club loses...poor defense. Defenses win the big games. If the club really wants to move forward and grab a killer DL... they must give up something.