Does Jeremiah know what he's talking about? Claims Romo or Garappolo headed to Bears

[Sydla]

KJJ has essentially made four arguments for why it's better to let Romo walk to the Texans in FA than trade him there. Each is more bizarre than the next.

1) That trading Romo to the Texans and then winning the SB is bad PR for the Cowboys and fans would hate Jerry for it. That's baloney. Most fans would likely not care as most realize that Romo likely has to go. In fact, some are hoping he lands with a good team with a chance to win a SB.

2) That trading Romo to the Texans and having them win the SB somehow changes the landscape in Texas and the NFL were the Cowboys now apparently become the little brother of the Texans. That's insane. Further, why wouldn't the net result be the same if you let him walk via free agency and he went to the Texans and won?

3) That you can only trade Romo to the Texans if the Cowboys get out of it what they put into the deal, meaning you only trade him to the Texans if the value is there in the trade. But the Cowboys don't dictate market value. They can guess what the value is but in the end, market value is what teams are willing to pay for Romo, not what you think his value should be. And if the Texans offer the most, that's who you should trade him too because that's Romo's best market value.

4) That when it comes to the Texans, getting nothing for Romo is better than getting something for him.

 

[KJJ]

Are you insane?

So you wouldn't take a 5th round pick because you feel it would be the worse end of the deal but then would cut him, watch him walk to the Texans as a FA and you end up with NOTHING?

Dude, you need a break from the internet for the rest of the day. You've 100% lost your marbles when you conclude that getting nothing is better than getting something.

There's no dilemma. Take the best deal you can get for Romo. It's not rocket science.

I don't give a damn what you think, you may like getting screwed in deals but not me. A 5th round pick for Romo would be a slap in our face and his. I'm not about to work a deal out where the Texans can gain the final piece to a possible SB appearance and all they're going to compensate me with is a measly 5th round pick that will likely land me a player that might not even make my team. I'm not going to hand them one of my most popular players who can still play at a high level for a freaking 5th round draft pick. I'll make them bid for him as a free agent before I'll gift wrap then to them unless they come up with something better than that. You can take your marbles and go play with Stasheroo.

 

[percyhoward]

I'd like to know the statute of limitations on that?

Fans are quick to go back years when it suits them, but are resistant when it doesn't. Going back to 2014 for Romo is fine. 2015? Not so much.

Conversely, they want to go back several years to "above average" Doug Free, but not so much the guy who was among the worst in sacks and pressures allowed in 2016.

It's terribly confusing.

It depends on the context. Teams wouldn't be interested in going back five seasons, at least not when considering FA.

For a HOF candidacy, definitely.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That would be some serious air conditioning.

LOL.... Right. Were the stats you posted from a link or was it an article?

If it was an article, I don't always trust those. They all too often, make statements that are designed to lead you to a conclusion, rather then post data that is accurate and not manipulated in some fashion. The other thing would be how long ago were these games played? Certainly, for at least the past two season, not many of them could have been included so when were they played? If they are Tony of 6 years ago, that's a different animal then the Tony of the past few seasons. It's really an interesting statistic but it could be somewhat misleading without more facts on the how and when.

 

[percyhoward]

LOL.... Right. Were the stats you posted from a link or was it an article?

Compiled from his splits at ESPN.

 

[Sydla]

I don't give a damn what you think, you may like getting screwed in deals but not me. A 5th round pick for Romo would be a slap in our face and his. I'm not about to work a deal out where the Texans can gain the final piece to a possible SB appearance and all they're going to compensate me with is a measly 5th round pick that will likely land me a player that might not even make my team. I'm not going to hand them one of my most popular players who can still play at a high level for a freaking 5th round draft pick. I'll make them bid for him as a free agent before I'll gift wrap then to them unless they come up with something better than that. You can take your marbles and go play with Stasheroo.

No, but you'll cut him so he can walk to the Texans, accomplish the same thing you are worried about, you have nothing to show for it other than apparently your "pride" that you didn't trade him for a 5th round pick.

Read that like a dozen times and let it sink in how moronic that sounds. Again, at the very core, you are arguing that getting NOTHING for him is better than getting SOMETHING.

 

[KJJ]

You literally just contradicted yourself. So now you want to trade him but a page back you are talking about how we can't trade him to Houston, that it would be better for Jones if he just signed there as a FA.

LOL. Wut?

You and Stash have the same damn agenda, no wonder you tag along with each other. I do want to trade Romo but for something of value and a 5th round pick in exchange for a starting QB isn't value. It would be better allow Romo to work out his own deal with Houston than for the Texans screw us in deal that would gift wrap Romo for a 5th round pick.

 

[KJJ]

No, but you'll cut him so he can walk to the Texans, accomplish the same thing you are worried about, you have nothing to show for it other than apparently your "pride" that you didn't trade him for a 5th round pick.

Read that like a dozen times and let it sink in how moronic that sounds. Again, at the very core, you are arguing that getting NOTHING for him is better than getting SOMETHING.

I can live with him working out his own deal with Houston because they'll be competing for him as a free agent. Again, I'm not going to hand the Texans what could be the final piece they need to reach the SB for a slap in the face 5th round pick.

 

[Nightman]

If the best offer was a 5th for 2017 I would hold on to him thru the start of the season

I would restructure his 14m if he didn't voluntarily work out a new deal

If a QB like Bridgewater got hurt again we hit the jackpot

I would never waive him

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm gonna tell everybody this right now. This thread better settle down or it's gonna be closed and some folks are gonna have time to work on taxes because they won't be posting here for awhile. This is ridiculous.

 

[Sydla]

You and Stash have the same damn agenda, no wonder you tag along with each other. I do want to trade Romo but for something of value and a 5th round pick in exchange for a starting QB isn't value. It would be better allow Romo to work out his own deal with Houston than for the Texans screw us in deal that would gift wrap Romo for a 5th round pick.

How is it better for the Cowboys to let him walk for nothing as opposed to taking a 5th round pick?

I want you to explain that to us. How is letting Romo walk for nothing where he can negotiate his own deal with the Texans better for the Cowboys than taking back draft picks for Romo, even later round ones?

It's not about how you feel personally. Teams trade/cut players with the intention of improving the team. So how would cutting Romo for nothing make the Cowboys potentially better than trading him for some picks?

 

[KJJ]

Are you insane?

So you wouldn't take a 5th round pick because you feel it would be the worse end of the deal but then would cut him, watch him walk to the Texans as a FA and you end up with NOTHING?

You must be insane if you're willing to accept a slap in the face 5th round pick for Romo. I would rather watch the Texans have to bid for him with several other teams than to hand him over for a crappy 5th round pick and watch them walk away with a big grin on their face after screwing us.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Supply and demand works these types of things out. If there are only one or two teams that have interest, then the bids are limited. If there are five or six, then the price likely gets driven up. At the end of the day, the league will establish Tony's value. You can except it or not but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.

If the team trades him, then the team that trades for him also trades for his contract. There is also value in that for the Cowboys.

 

[KJJ]

How is it better for the Cowboys to let him walk for nothing as opposed to taking a 5th round pick?

I want you to explain that to us. How is letting Romo walk for nothing where he can negotiate his own deal with the Texans better for the Cowboys than taking back draft picks for Romo, even later round ones?

It's not about how you feel personally. Teams trade/cut players with the intention of improving the team. So how would cutting Romo for nothing make the Cowboys potentially better than trading him for some picks?

For me it comes down to principle, I simply would not hand him off to a contending team for a measly 5th round pick. Here's the benefits of releasing him.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...salary-cap-cowboys/1dbh9ldnydf191ik04iqu21ius

The benefits of releasing Tony Romo

"There are two ways in which releasing Romo makes more sense. One is the immediate cap relief the team would realize if Romo was processed as a normal release. He is currently slated to count $24.7 million against the Cowboys’ cap, and the team will be about $10 million over the projected cap next year if Romo is on the roster. All teams must comply with the salary cap on the eve of the first day of free agency, and Dallas would be able to free up $5.1 million as early as February by cutting Romo before free agency begins.

Such immediate cap relief would not be possible with a trade, which can’t be processed until the first day of the new league year … at which point the Cowboys already would have needed to be salary cap compliant. That means they would need to have restructured contracts to make up that $5.1 million Romo would have saved them, which can create future salary cap headaches."

Here's the benefits of trading him.

The benefits of trading Tony Romo

"While trading Romo would not give Dallas immediate cap relief, it would accomplish two important things: getting a draft pick and controlling where Romo lands.

Nothing reflects worse on a team than having to cut a high-priced player and receiving nothing in return … especially if that player can still play. If Romo were to have a good season elsewhere while Dallas kept a large cap charge for him, the organization would be raked over the coals by media and fans.

And it is possible a player like Romo — if he has a successful season elsewhere — could return a second-round draft pick, which is a decent consolation prize."

 

[KJJ]

How is it better for the Cowboys to let him walk for nothing as opposed to taking a 5th round pick?

I want you to explain that to us. How is letting Romo walk for nothing where he can negotiate his own deal with the Texans better for the Cowboys than taking back draft picks for Romo, even later round ones?

It's not about how you feel personally. Teams trade/cut players with the intention of improving the team. So how would cutting Romo for nothing make the Cowboys potentially better than trading him for some picks?

You need to make up your mind are you going to accept a "5th round pick" or are you going to take "draft picks" for Romo? You're all over the place make up your mind are you taking one measly pick for him or do you want "picks" for him?

 

[KJJ]

Read the article.

http://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/201...ction-possible-outcomes-scenarios-salary-cap/

 

[TheCount]

What's wrong with his contract right now? Low year one salary for a player of his ability, no guaranteed money to speak of, and a club option on the following two years.

The list of teams willing/able to pay 14m to rent an often-injured QB for one year isn't a long one.

 

[Sydla]

You must be insane if you're willing to accept a slap in the face 5th round pick for Romo. I would rather watch the Texans have to bid for him with several other teams than to hand him over for a crappy 5th round pick and watch them walk away with a big grin on their face after screwing us.

I am utterly fascinated by this.

 

[TheCount]

I don't think that's true. I have read that a team taking on Romo's contract will only be on the hook for $14M this next year...that's not a lot for a starting QB, especially of the caliber of Romo. A far bigger obstacle to his trade value is concern for his future health, IMO. Because of that, he very likely will have to redo his contract to more of an incentive-laden type deal based on games played, playoffs, etc.

So you don't think it's true but you think it's true, got it.

 

[Sydla]

You need to make up your mind are you going to accept a "5th round pick" or are you going to take "draft picks" for Romo? You're all over the place make up your mind are you taking one measly pick for him or do you want "picks" for him?

Actually, I've been quite clear. I have said it multiple times. I will take the best offer for Romo over cutting him for nothing. Whether that be a single pick, multiple picks or a player.