Does Jeremiah know what he's talking about? Claims Romo or Garappolo headed to Bears

[Sydla]

For me it comes down to principle, I simply would not hand him off to a contending team for a measly 5th round pick. Here's the benefits of releasing him.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...salary-cap-cowboys/1dbh9ldnydf191ik04iqu21ius

The benefits of releasing Tony Romo

"There are two ways in which releasing Romo makes more sense. One is the immediate cap relief the team would realize if Romo was processed as a normal release. He is currently slated to count $24.7 million against the Cowboys’ cap, and the team will be about $10 million over the projected cap next year if Romo is on the roster. All teams must comply with the salary cap on the eve of the first day of free agency, and Dallas would be able to free up $5.1 million as early as February by cutting Romo before free agency begins.

Such immediate cap relief would not be possible with a trade, which can’t be processed until the first day of the new league year … at which point the Cowboys already would have needed to be salary cap compliant. That means they would need to have restructured contracts to make up that $5.1 million Romo would have saved them, which can create future salary cap headaches."

Here's the benefits of trading him.

The benefits of trading Tony Romo

"While trading Romo would not give Dallas immediate cap relief, it would accomplish two important things: getting a draft pick and controlling where Romo lands.

Nothing reflects worse on a team than having to cut a high-priced player and receiving nothing in return … especially if that player can still play. If Romo were to have a good season elsewhere while Dallas kept a large cap charge for him, the organization would be raked over the coals by media and fans.

And it is possible a player like Romo — if he has a successful season elsewhere — could return a second-round draft pick, which is a decent consolation prize."

At least you admit this is nothing more than your bizarre principle at work here. Because there is no logical explanation for suggesting letting Romo walk for nothing is better for the team than taking back even a low round pick.

And the Cowboys are now cap compliant so there's no benefit now in terms of the cap in trading or cutting him now.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

For me it comes down to principle, I simply would not hand him off to a contending team for a measly 5th round pick. Here's the benefits of releasing him.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...salary-cap-cowboys/1dbh9ldnydf191ik04iqu21ius

The benefits of releasing Tony Romo

"There are two ways in which releasing Romo makes more sense. One is the immediate cap relief the team would realize if Romo was processed as a normal release. He is currently slated to count $24.7 million against the Cowboys’ cap, and the team will be about $10 million over the projected cap next year if Romo is on the roster. All teams must comply with the salary cap on the eve of the first day of free agency, and Dallas would be able to free up $5.1 million as early as February by cutting Romo before free agency begins.

Such immediate cap relief would not be possible with a trade, which can’t be processed until the first day of the new league year … at which point the Cowboys already would have needed to be salary cap compliant. That means they would need to have restructured contracts to make up that $5.1 million Romo would have saved them, which can create future salary cap headaches."

Here's the benefits of trading him.

The benefits of trading Tony Romo

"While trading Romo would not give Dallas immediate cap relief, it would accomplish two important things: getting a draft pick and controlling where Romo lands.

Nothing reflects worse on a team than having to cut a high-priced player and receiving nothing in return … especially if that player can still play. If Romo were to have a good season elsewhere while Dallas kept a large cap charge for him, the organization would be raked over the coals by media and fans.

And it is possible a player like Romo — if he has a successful season elsewhere — could return a second-round draft pick, which is a decent consolation prize."

But the team has already created that cap spac by restructuring Smith and Fredbeard. What is not mentioned in this article is that once you reach the new year, you receive all of the relief and it can then be immediately applied (just depending on how the team structures the terms) in the next year. There are benefits to doing it this way as well.

 

[KJJ]

At least you admit this is nothing more than your bizarre principle at work here. Because there is no logical explanation for suggesting letting Romo walk for nothing is better for the team than taking back even a low round pick.

And the Cowboys are now cap compliant so there's no benefit now in terms of the cap in trading or cutting him now.

Why is it being reported that it makes more sense to release Romo and why is it being reported that Romo is expecting to be released? Do you think accepting a 5th round pick for Romo would be more beneficial than any benefit we might get by releasing him?

 

[KJJ]

But the team has already created that cap spac by restructuring Smith and Fredbeard. What is not mentioned in this article is that once you reach the new year, you receive all of the relief and it can then be immediately applied (just depending on how the team structures the terms) in the next year. There are benefits to doing it this way as well.

There's benefits to releasing him and there's benefits to trading him but to benefit by trading him the compensation has to be better than a 5th round pick.

 

[Sydla]

There's benefits to releasing him and there's benefits to trading him but to benefit by trading him the compensation has to be better than a 5th round pick.

Nope.

 

[Sydla]

Why is it being reported that it makes more sense to release Romo and why is it being reported that Romo is expecting to be released? Do you think accepting a 5th round pick for Romo would be more beneficial than any benefit we might get by releasing him?

Because when the article was written the Cowboys were over the cap. They have to be under the cap on the night before the league year starts. If you trade him, the cap savings don't hit until the next day, the first day of the new year. You must be cap compliant before then.

But since the Cowboys restructured other contracts, they don't need Romo's cap savings the night before the league year starts. Ergo there is no difference in benefits between cutting and trading now.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

My dad is a bears fan he would love it. He hates cutler and likes romo.

I would love seeing Romo in Chicago. That division needs another great QB in there to thump on Rodgers and the pack.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's benefits to releasing him and there's benefits to trading him but to benefit by trading him the compensation has to be better than a 5th round pick.

The market will decide this. It is pointless to argue and call names over it. If teams elect to simply wait the Cowboys out, it's likely that nobody gives anything and that's that. However, if the team decides to just release him out right, that's there choice and they will weigh the benefits of that. On the other hand, if a 5th is what they can get for him, and the team decides to take that,then that too is their choice.

Personally, I believe they would probably just release him rather then take a 5th because I believe that compensation would be better for Tony then a 5th round pick but, whatever.

The point I am trying to make is that it's silly to argue this, to the point of violating the rules of this board. It's like two fleas fight over the dogs back, having ignored the fact that the dog, in question, is on a sinking ship in the middle of the Atlantic. What's really important here?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would love seeing Romo in Chicago. That division needs another great QB in there to thump on Rodgers and the pack.

I would hate to see Tony in Chicago. That, to me, is one of the worst situations for Tony IMO.

 

[KJJ]

Because when the article was written the Cowboys were over the cap. They have to be under the cap on the night before the league year starts. If you trade him, the cap savings don't hit until the next day, the first day of the new year. You must be cap compliant before then.

But since the Cowboys restructured other contracts, they don't need Romo's cap savings the night before the league year starts. Ergo there is no difference in benefits between cutting and trading now.

Provide an article that says there's absolutely no differences between cutting him in trading him. If there's no differences than why was it just reported that Romo was expecting to be released?

 

[Sydla]

The market will decide this. It is pointless to argue and call names over it. If teams elect to simply wait the Cowboys out, it's likely that nobody gives anything and that's that. However, if the team decides to just release him out right, that's there choice and they will weigh the benefits of that. On the other hand, if a 5th is what they can get for him, and the team decides to take that,then that too is their choice.

Personally, I believe they would probably just release him rather then take a 5th because I believe that compensation would be better for Tony then a 5th round pick but, whatever.

The point I am trying to make is that it's silly to argue this, to the point of violating the rules of this board. It's like two fleas fight over the dogs back, having ignored the fact that the dog, in question, is on a sinking ship in the middle of the Atlantic. What's really important here?

What's the benefit from releasing him over trading him? Other than the June 1 designation, of course.

 

[KJJ]

The market will decide this. It is pointless to argue and call names over it. If teams elect to simply wait the Cowboys out, it's likely that nobody gives anything and that's that. However, if the team decides to just release him out right, that's there choice and they will weigh the benefits of that. On the other hand, if a 5th is what they can get for him, and the team decides to take that,then that too is their choice.

Personally, I believe they would probably just release him rather then take a 5th because I believe that compensation would be better for Tony then a 5th round pick but, whatever.

The point I am trying to make is that it's silly to argue this, to the point of violating the rules of this board. It's like two fleas fight over the dogs back, having ignored the fact that the dog, in question, is on a sinking ship in the middle of the Atlantic. What's really important here?

I'm not the one doing the name-calling and we've exhausted this argument. Instead of continuing to argue it we all need to sit back and see how it plays out.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What's the benefit from releasing him over trading him? Other than the June 1 designation, of course.

Team Chemistry maybe. If you allow him to walk, you probably get better compensation then a 5th rd pick in next years draft. If he walks and signs elsewhere, then you could get a 4th or better for him in compensitory picks.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

I would hate to see Tony in Chicago. That, to me, is one of the worst situations for Tony IMO.

Chicago has a pretty decent defense. Their QB play last season was atrocious. I don't think they're a bottom of the barrel team like Cleveland.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm not the one doing the name-calling and we've exhausted this argument. Instead of continuing to argue it we all need to sit back and see how it plays out.

There is plenty of name calling to go around. However, I think this position is wise. Nobody has control over this situation so what's the point?

 

[Sydla]

Provide an article that says there's absolutely no differences between cutting him in trading him right now. If there's no differences than why was it just reported that Romo was expecting to be released?

Reports are rumors, nothing more.

And I don't need any article. If you understand what was said in the article you linked to, you'd understand it.

The article was written Dec 20th. At that time, the Cowboys were going to be over the cap for the new league year starting in March of 2017.

By rule, teams have to be cap compliant the night before the league year starts. The article assumed that in order to get cap compliant they would have to dump Romo. The only way to get cap savings by that time was cut Romo. If they traded him before the league year started, it wouldn't be processed until after the league year started. In fact, the article you linked explains this and said if they don't cut Romo they will have to restructure deals to get in compliance.

The Cowboys restructured Smith and Frederick so they will be cap compliant by the eve of the new league year. Therefore they no longer need Romo's cap savings now before that date.

 

[Idgit]

The list of teams willing/able to pay 14m to rent an often-injured QB for one year isn't a long one.

Really? I'd think $14MM for a QB of Room's ability is a no brainer to anybody who has everything but the QB.

 

[Sydla]

Team Chemistry maybe. If you allow him to walk, you probably get better compensation then a 5th rd pick in next years draft. If he walks and signs elsewhere, then you could get a 4th or better for him in compensitory picks.

I don't think you are eligible for draft comp if you cut a player. So I think that point is moot.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Chicago has a pretty decent defense. Their QB play last season was atrocious. I don't think they're a bottom of the barrel team like Cleveland.

Chicago does not have a great OL and they play in cold weather in a very windy stadium. None of these things are good for Romo.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Chicago does not have a great OL and they play in cold weather in a very windy stadium. None of these things are good for Romo.

True about the O-Line. But Romo grew up in Wisconsin, so the cold doesn't really bother him. Unless you're suggesting, since he has numerous surgeries, that cold weather would give him extra pain? That could be possible, but Tony has a very high tolerance to pain.