Does Jerry have an obligation to the fans?

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I know this isn't the Green Bay Packers. The DFW metroplex cannot claim formal ownership of the Dallas Cowboys. The NFL is a private league with owners who have ownership rights.

But let's stop and ask ourselves: when the City of Arlington was asked to put up taxes to pay for part of the Cowboys stadium--wasn't the underlying argument that in a sense the community is Co-Owner of the franchise?

Laws of eminent domain were invoked to force businesses and residents to move out to make room for the stadium. This is flat impossible if there isn't a legal thread of community property involved.

In the video that promoted the new stadium Jones said he viewed himself more as a steward of the franchise than the owner. Well he either needs to admit that was BS or he needs to resign as GM because no GM has had a such a pathetic record.

I would argue that Jerry Jones IS obligated to do what is right for the franchise and to put the franchise above his personal agenda. Yet clearly his private ambition of proving that he is a football genius and his petty need for tyrannical control is the ONLY reason he is still GM of the franchise.

I would suggest that Jones is really no different than the "Love-Me-Some-Me" cancer, Mr. Owens. Jerry's private ambition are sabatoging the success of the larger team. Spock said it best in Star Trek II: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few--or the one." Jerry Jones lacks the honor to understand such a notion.

Mr. Jones is in breach of his social and moral contract. His brazen lies as GM, his constant misjudgments, his embarrassments to the city of Dallas cast a pall of shame upon the entire city. His actions as GM are making the city of Dallas and the state of Texas a punch-line in jokes around the country.

I suggest there is one course of action that citizens currently have at their disposal: shame him. Raise holy hell and shame the hell out of him. Yes, protest. Yes, call him on his crapp. Yes, refuse to buy tickets and paraphenelia. Tell him his lies and his betrayal of the franchise and city must stop.
 

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T-RO;2626278 said:
I know this isn't the Green Bay Packers. The DFW metroplex cannot claim formal ownership of the Dallas Cowboys. The NFL is a private league with owners who have ownership rights.

But let's stop and ask ourselves: when the City of Arlington was asked to put up taxes to pay for part of the Cowboys stadium--wasn't the underlying argument that in a sense the community is Co-Owner of the franchise?

Laws of eminent domain were invoked to force businesses and residents to move out to make room for the stadium. This is flat impossible if there isn't a legal thread of community property involved.

In the video that promoted the new stadium Jones said he viewed himself more as a steward of the franchise than the owner. Well he either needs to admit that was BS or he needs to resign as GM because no GM has had a such a pathetic record.

I would argue that Jerry Jones IS obligated to do what is right for the franchise and to put the franchise above his personal agenda. Yet clearly his private ambition of proving that he is a football genius and his petty need for tyrannical control is the ONLY reason he is still GM of the franchise.

I would suggest that Jones is really no different than the "Love-Me-Some-Me" cancer, Mr. Owens. Jerry's private ambition are sabatoging the success of the larger team. Spock said it best in Star Trek II: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few--or the one." Jerry Jones lacks the honor to understand such a notion.

Mr. Jones is in breach of his social and moral contract. His brazen lies as GM, his constant misjudgments, his embarrassments to the city of Dallas cast a pall of shame upon the entire city. His actions as GM are making the city of Dallas and the state of Texas a punch-line in jokes around the country.

I suggest there is one course of action that citizens currently have at their disposal: shame him. Raise holy hell and shame the hell out of him. Yes, protest. Yes, call him on his crapp. Yes, refuse to buy tickets and paraphenelia. Tell him his lies and his betrayal of the franchise and city must stop.


Hate to break it to ya but winning is his personal agenda.......he wants the Cowboys to win more than any fan here
 

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You may hate Jerry Jones, but he has assembled a ton of talent on this team. We have the talent to win a superbowl as we sit now. But it won't happen when your coach won't hold anyone accountable and runs a soft team. Leadership is the problem with the cowboys. prossman
 

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dadymat;2626289 said:
Hate to break it to ya but winning is his personal agenda.......he wants the Cowboys to win more than any fan here

That is a great notion, but not quite reality. Jerry talks a great game about winning being the most important thing but in reality he cares more about satisfying his own ego then anything else.
 

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Doomsday;2626307 said:
That is a great notion, but not quite reality. Jerry talks a great game about winning being the most important thing but in reality he cares more about satisfying his own ego then anything else.

thats your opinion and you would be wrong....what would you call the BP era?
 

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Prossman;2626299 said:
You may hate Jerry Jones, but he has assembled a ton of talent on this team. We have the talent to win a superbowl as we sit now. But it won't happen when your coach won't hold anyone accountable and runs a soft team. Leadership is the problem with the cowboys. prossman

Guess what! He hired that soft coach and when the soft coach rarely wants to hold a player accountable Jerry won't let him. Oh, and he won't fire the soft coach either!
 

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dadymat;2626335 said:
thats your opinion and you would be wrong....what would you call the BP era?


A scheme to get fan favor to vote that new stadium into creation!
 

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Royal Laegotti;2626357 said:
A scheme to get fan favor to vote that new stadium into creation!


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dadymat;2626289 said:
Hate to break it to ya but winning is his personal agenda.......he wants the Cowboys to win more than any fan here


Hate to break it to you but Jerry doesnt do enough to make winning his personal agenda. He puts media and spotlight above and beyond all. Yes, that includes winning.

At the end of the day if the Cowboys dont win the SB that year then Jerry can feel good about having his team in the news 24/7/365.
 

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T-RO;2626278 said:
I know this isn't the Green Bay Packers. The DFW metroplex cannot claim formal ownership of the Dallas Cowboys. The NFL is a private league with owners who have ownership rights.

But let's stop and ask ourselves: when the City of Arlington was asked to put up taxes to pay for part of the Cowboys stadium--wasn't the underlying argument that in a sense the community is Co-Owner of the franchise?

Laws of eminent domain were invoked to force businesses and residents to move out to make room for the stadium. This is flat impossible if there isn't a legal thread of community property involved.

In the video that promoted the new stadium Jones said he viewed himself more as a steward of the franchise than the owner. Well he either needs to admit that was BS or he needs to resign as GM because no GM has had a such a pathetic record.

I would argue that Jerry Jones IS obligated to do what is right for the franchise and to put the franchise above his personal agenda. Yet clearly his private ambition of proving that he is a football genius and his petty need for tyrannical control is the ONLY reason he is still GM of the franchise.

I would suggest that Jones is really no different than the "Love-Me-Some-Me" cancer, Mr. Owens. Jerry's private ambition are sabatoging the success of the larger team. Spock said it best in Star Trek II: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few--or the one." Jerry Jones lacks the honor to understand such a notion.

Mr. Jones is in breach of his social and moral contract. His brazen lies as GM, his constant misjudgments, his embarrassments to the city of Dallas cast a pall of shame upon the entire city. His actions as GM are making the city of Dallas and the state of Texas a punch-line in jokes around the country.

I suggest there is one course of action that citizens currently have at their disposal: shame him. Raise holy hell and shame the hell out of him. Yes, protest. Yes, call him on his crapp. Yes, refuse to buy tickets and paraphenelia. Tell him his lies and his betrayal of the franchise and city must stop.[/quote]

That's an interesting slant on things. I kinda like it.
 

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dadymat;2626289 said:
Hate to break it to ya but winning is his personal agenda.......he wants the Cowboys to win more than any fan here

Wanting to win and knowing how to win are two different things.

He may have the former, but he lacks the latter.

He's not fit to be GM.
 

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dadymat;2626335 said:
thats your opinion and you would be wrong....what would you call the BP era?

A lesson not yet learned.
 

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Jerry has no obligation to do anything other than follow league guidlines, nor do we as fans have any obligation to support what he is doing.
 

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Eddie;2626540 said:
Wanting to win and knowing how to win are two different things.

He may have the former, but he lacks the latter.

He's not fit to be GM.

I liked how he took a grab at credit for the Jimmy and Billy eras in that recent interview about Reeves. He's so transparent.
 

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Nope. He doesn't have any obligation to the fans. He is a businessman...if he doesn't put out a good product, in a market driven business, the fans will let him know.

He laid out the money to purchase the team. He can do with it as he sees fit.
 

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Juke99;2626551 said:
Nope. He doesn't have any obligation to the fans. He is a businessman...if he doesn't put out a good product, in a market driven business, the fans will let him know.

He laid out the money to purchase the team. He can do with it as he sees fit.
Interesting take. While he doesn't have an obligation as you say, I do believe he feels an obligation.
 

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Jerry is not obligated to do JACK.

He purchased the Dallas Cowboys with his own personal money and he can run the team as he sees fit. There is no moral or eithical contract to do JACK.

Jerry is putting a product on the field and nobody is holding a gun to your head to pay one single penny for that product if you do not like it. You do not have to buy tickets, merchandise, or NFL Ticket if you do not want to.

Thus, there is absolutely no financial burden on the fans without there knowing participation. Thus, no burden means no obligation or commitment either to the fans.


Note: The OP mentioned "emminent domian" as somehow meaning "public ownership". This is absolutely 100% false. The courts have ruled "emminent domian" to be a perfectly legal way of local governments to "promote the public good" and in now way confers ownership of the beneficiary of the emminent domian.


Bottom Line..........The City of Arlington owns JACK regarding the Cowboys and Jerry is obligated to do JACK for the fans........If you dont like the way Jerry runs the team, you have 3 choices:

A. You can buy the team from Jerry and run it yourself.
B. You can go find another team or boycott the Boyz.
C. You can shut the hell up and hope for the best.
 

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Hostile;2626553 said:
Interesting take. While he doesn't have an obligation as you say, I do believe he feels an obligation.

Well...perhaps. We don't know that.

I would like to think most business owners feel they have an obligation to put a good product into the market place...but I'm sure the lines get hazed at times...the balance is always between making money and putting out a quality product. Some see those as mutually exclusive.

I think it's always important to define the product. Is it to have a winning team? Is it to provide the best entertainment? What business is Jerry in, the entertainment business, or the business of winning football? Surely they aren't mutually exclusive BUT that said, the Cardinals performed much better than the Cowboys with regard to what they achieved on the field...yet, no one for a second thinks they'll take in more money than the Cowboys. Why? Because the Cowboys are entertainment. The Cardinals just play football.
 

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Beast_from_East;2626555 said:
If you dont like the way Jerry runs the team, you have 4 choices:

A. You can buy the team from Jerry and run it yourself.
B. You can go find another team or boycott the Boyz.
C. You can shut the hell up and hope for the best.
D. Follow the team as you see fit, whether it is blindly following with every fiber of your being, constantly upset and letting your feelings be known, or as a casual fan who is hardly affected.
 
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