Does the Giants' 38 point loss to the Panthers invalidate our win over them?

[WV Cowboy]

This is the eighth time in 11 years the Cowboys have managed a 2-1 record through three weeks. They failed to improve to 3-1, instead falling to 2-2, on six of those seven previous occasions.

Next week’s game against San Diego will be telling in that regard.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I think the way we beat the giants almost invalidated itself lol. We kind of deserved to lose that game but a wins a win and ill take it. But so did the giants i guess. But it was our first game.

 

[Lazyking]

Are the Packers and the 49ers junk this year then?

Why are you being so difficult? Things can change, but being 1-2 or 0-3 right now means you're not a good team. At executing or simply making the play to win the game The Cowboys for example are 2-1 does that mean they won't finish 8-8? No, it means at this moment, they've gotten the job two out of three times.

I'm never going to count the Giants out because they usually come to play late in the season but it doesn't look good.

I just hate when people say so and so is good team when they don't have the record to show it. Like it's saying the Cowboys have been a good team even though they haven't made the playoffs in years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'd say no because its a NFC East rival and no matter how terrible a team may be in your division it will always be a fight. I mean look at the Rams last season. 5 of their 7 wins came from their own division against the Seahawks and 9ers and both were playoff contenders.

That being said, I didn't think the Chiefs win against the Eagirls validated anything. We should've beat the Chiefs. We outplayed them that day.

 

[Lazyking]

I'd say no because its a NFC East rival and no matter how terrible a team may be in your division it will always be a fight. I mean look at the Rams last season. 5 of their 7 wins came from their own division against the Seahawks and 9ers and both were playoff contenders.

That being said, I didn't think the Chiefs win against the Eagirls validated anything. We should've beat the Chiefs. We outplayed them that day.

The Chiefs made fewer mistakes. We didn't really outplay them.

 

[jrumann59]

I see the giants are where we were the last 2 years inconsistent running game, inconsistent line and having to rely on passing unfortunately Eli is a statue back there compared to what Romo did the last 2 years.

 

[Idgit]

I'd say the same thing that I said about the Chiefs' loss. It gives our win context, knowing the Giants are 0-3 right now.

That said, 0-3 teams, and worse, upset other teams all the time in this league, so it doesn't really matter much. I will say I understand the desire to mention context after a loss in order to enjoy the coming game more. I don't get trying to use context to make yourself less excited about football as much at all. What's the point of bumming yourself out early in the week after a big home win? I mean, other than positioning yourself for future arguments on a message board, I guess?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Chiefs made fewer mistakes. We didn't really outplay them.

I disagree. They couldn't stop Dez and we were in the redzone and threw a screen pass to Terrance Williams rather than take advantage of Dez in single coverage. We lost the game by one point and we left points out there. That's not to take anything away from the Chiefs. Maybe they didn't play their best football either. Actually i'm sure they didn't. But I know for a fact we didn't play ours and left points out there.

 

[WV Cowboy]

The Chiefs made fewer mistakes. We didn't really outplay them.

I thought we outplayed them myself, .. but we just had to settle for FG's three times. That lost the game.

 

[links18]

I'd say the same thing that I said about the Chiefs' loss. It gives our win context, knowing the Giants are 0-3 right now.

That said, 0-3 teams, and worse, upset other teams all the time in this league, so it doesn't really matter much. I will say I understand the desire to mention context after a loss in order to enjoy the coming game more. I don't get trying to use context to make yourself less excited about football as much at all. What's the point of bumming yourself out early in the week after a big home win? I mean, other than positioning yourself for future arguments on a message board, I guess?

So, contextualizing a loss is an acceptable act of mourning; contextualizing a win means you have a bad attitude?

 

[Idgit]

So, contextualizing a loss is an acceptable act of mourning; contextualizing a win means you have a bad attitude?

Yep. When you're doing it publicly.

Either way, I think context matters, and it's correct to understand that it's a factor in your evaluation. Sharing that context to feel better after a loss makes perfect sense to me. Sharing it to make people feel worse after a loss? Not so much. Am I wrong?

 

[visionary]

So, contextualizing a loss is an acceptable act of mourning; contextualizing a win means you have a bad attitude?

you are trying to use common sense
its not gonna work

 

[zrinkill]

These call out threads are getting more and more complicated.

 

[Idgit]

These call out threads are getting more and more complicated.

I think it's a fair question. We had the flip side of this pancake last week, so you knew it would come up after a big win, but that's ok. It's a debate that can be won on the merits of the arguments alone.

Fans create threads on message boards for a reason, but not all reasons are the same. Not every argument that can be made needs to be made publicly, so, when you choose to make one, it says something about your intentions. That should be fair game around here. But he's right in suggesting that context matters in evaluating the quality of both wins and losses.

EDIT: (and I obviously didn't see this as a particular call-out thread. It's just the obvious corollary thread for a debate we had last week. He's not mocking anybody).

 

[links18]

Yep. When you're doing it publicly.

Either way, I think context matters, and it's correct to understand that it's a factor in your evaluation. Sharing that context to feel better after a loss makes perfect sense to me. Sharing it to make people feel worse after a loss? Not so much. Am I wrong?

I guess it depends on whether you think the purpose of the board is to conduct sober minded analysis or make people feel good. I guess its both and that's why there is so much misunderstanding.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Hey don't rain on my parade. I only believe in lolly pops and rainbows!

 

[bark]

I'm just happy with our performance yesterday and looking forward to an opportunity to build on it in SD. The rest is irrevelant

 

[Idgit]

I guess it depends on whether you think the purpose of the board is to conduct sober minded analysis or make people feel good. I guess its both and that's why there is so much misunderstanding.

That's fair. It's a spectrum, like anything else. I personally don't appreciate the overreaction to wins any more than you probably do. I find it a little bit embarrassing. I just normally sit on those feelings until about Wed of the following week before I say anything in a positive overreaction thread because I think it's nice that fans get a bit carried away after a big win. But at some point, if they don't come back to earth, they start looking like Redsk*ns fans (well, not so much this season, but you get the point ). That's never a good look on anybody.

 

[links18]

. But at some point, if they don't come back to earth, they start looking like Redsk*ns fans (well, not so much this season, but you get the point ). That's never a good look on anybody.

Never a good look......

 

[Idgit]

Hey don't rain on my parade. I only believe in lolly pops and rainbows!

It's not about what you believe it. It's about what you chose to post about on a fan message board. I believe lots of things I'll say once or twice in a specific thread about a specific topic, but that I don't let bleed into every dang thread on the site. Because most of us are here for a reason, and most of us don't want our Cowboy negativity to exactly match the number of positive comments we want to share. It's not about being right in public. It's about enjoying the current NFL season as much as possible. I can be right about depressing things privately, in small groups, or in isolated threads on specific topics and that's sufficient for me. If it's not for you, I suggest you consider why that is a little more closely. Is that really all that unreasonable?