Does this team's "nucleus" need to be blown-up?

[realtick]

First, the Wade Phillips' era has to end. That much is obvious. A team takes on its coach's personality, problem is most head coaches by nature have a domineering personality.

Wade doesn't have that.

He sticks with his "treat men like men" routine that sounds admirable but isn't practical in an enviroment with a bunch of age 20-something multi-millionaires.

Moving beyond that, does this team's "nucleus" need to be blown up?

I'm talking about guys like Bradie James, Andre Gurode, Terrance Newman, et cetera.

Mike Jenkins was a fall-guy yesterday, but he mentioned something this offseason regarding the way the team finished last year. He said some players on the team started believing its (the team's) own hype and stopped preparing the way they should.

Jenkins also alluded to that again yesterday regarding chemistry.

I'm not claiming this is a fool-proof theory, but I'm starting to think there needs to be some serious player changes in the locker room and my gut tells me that some of the team's veterans need to be escorted towards the exits.

What are your thoughts?

 

[TheCoolFan]

Yes and I say start by rebuilding the offensive line and scrapping the 3-4

 

[DOUBLE WING]

First, the Wade Phillips' era has to end. That much is obvious. A team takes on its coach's personality, problem is most head coaches by nature have a domineering personality.

Wade doesn't have that.

He sticks with his "treat men like men" routine that sounds admirable but isn't practical in an enviroment with a bunch of age 20-something multi-millionaires.

Moving beyond that, does this team's "nucleus" need to be blown up?

I'm talking about guys like Bradie James, Andre Gurode, Terrance Newman, et cetera.

Mike Jenkins was a fall-guy yesterday, but he mentioned something this offseason regarding the way the team finished last year. He said some players on the team started believing its (the team's) own hype and stopped preparing the way they should.

Jenkins also alluded to that again yesterday regarding chemistry.

I'm not claiming this is a fool-proof theory, but I'm starting to think there needs to be some serious player changes in the locker room and my gut tells me that some of the team's veterans need to be escorted towards the exits.

What are your thoughts?

I would say yes. The lackadaisical play and dumb penalties aren't new to the Wade Phillips era, they all happened when Parcells was here too. That nucleus of Newman-Gurode-Bradie, etc. were all here then and they're all here now and now they're considered "team leaders" - I respect what they've done for the STAR but unfortunately guys like them are the one constant between the two regimes and not much has changed as far as the on-field product. I think it might be time to cut bait and get some new blood in there.

 

[SDCowboy]

YES! I've been saying that for 3 years now. We have top tier skill players (QB, WRs, TEs, RB) but the base of the team, the guys surrounding our great players probably should not even be on the field. In other words, this is a horrible TEAM with a few great players that can at least keep us competitive. Hell even teams like the Bills and lions may be horrible but at least they can keep their penalties in check.

 

[Dcowboy84]

Yes and I say start by rebuilding the offensive line and scrapping the 3-4

i'm actually starting to turn to the whole scrap the 3-4 thing too now.

i've been a defender of it...but i am so tired of seeing Ware and Spencer EVER drop into coverage. even though they can do it that is not using the talents of your players and they need to be rushing the passer.

i don't know but i see images of another Freeney/Mathis duo with those two lined up at DE.

the issue is how we've built the team for the 3-4 but i think it should be considered.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

When Keith Brookings comes in 2 years ago...and the reins of leadership were available for him to TAKE....that should tell us all we need to know about the "core" of this team. The core of this team is NOT young....they are NOT old....they are veterans in their prime. I have been saying for years...they were brought in by Parcells...and Parcells was the LONE voice for this team. So the core of this team was not raised to be leaders. Jerry matched the wrong coach for the personality of this team. Jerry is so giddy to have talent...and to win 10 - 11 games....and more importantly to be the LONE voice of this team....that he went out and paid nearly all of the core of this team. I mean all of them have signed extensions. And there is not ONE Ray Lewis type leader on this team. Heck there is not even ONE London Fletcher type leader on this team. Newman called a players only meeting a couple of weeks ago and almost EVERY player thought it was a stupid idea? I mean this guy has been here since 2003...and he has so little respect in the lockeroom that guys that have been here 1 or 2 years publicly stated how stupid the idea was. First of all, none of them have enough skins on the wall to question Newman for calling the meeting. And then went a step further and PUBLICLY questioned the meeting. This is a lockeroom full of highly comepenstated individual "rock stars" They are not a team...and they have no leader. I'm sorry, Brookings talent level is not good enough for him to be the leader of this team. His tenure in the NFL is almost over and they don't even pay him that much. Where is DeMarcus, Miles, Roy Williams, Romo, Leonard Davis...I mean do I need to remind you all the amount of money those guys are being paid...and all they really care about is making sure they do "their part"!

Ray Lewis types inspire an entire organization. They make the Gerald Sensabaughs and Alan Ball elevate there play. The give a team an idenity. Right now our identity is Jerry Jones and the shiny new stadium. And opposing teams cannot WAIT to come into our shiny new stadium and soil the field! And these phony players, leaders and coaches put up little resistance!!!

 

[The Fonz]

You will never find a team with out weakness.so the answer is No.
Just bring a good coach ( a true leader and a good motivator) and give him an absolute control over players and you will see what this team do.

 

[Stash]

You will never find a team with out weakness.so the answer is No.
Just bring a good coach ( a true leader and a good motivator) and give him an absolute control over players and you will see what this team do.

I agree with this.

And any good coach can look at this roster and see the talent that is currently here.

The key piece of the puzzle is if you can get Jerry to wake up and realize that he needs to loosen up his death grip on the franchise.

Until he does that, you won't GET any coaches capable of turning this thing around.

 

[realtick]

I agree with this.

And any good coach can look at this roster and see the talent that is currently here.

The key piece of the puzzle is if you can get Jerry to wake up and realize that he needs to loosen up his death grip on the franchise.

Until he does that, you won't GET any coaches capable of turning this thing around.

I don't agree with that.

Saying "every team has weaknesses..." is an accepted generality that is really not saying anything at all.

A coach with true leadership qualities would make players accountable and stifle a bunch of this nonsense we've been seeing on the field.

Bill Parcells certainly had his warts and shortcomings, but I would venture to say that we wouldn't be having many of the issues we've seen manifesting with this team had he been here.

And no, this isn't a "bring Parcells back" rant, lol.

 

[T-RO]

Does this team's "nucleus" need to be blown-up?

No. This team's nucleus has won a lot of games. People forget how bad we were before them.

We do need a new GM, and head coaching command structure. Blaming anything else at this point is cupping water out of a sinking ship.

 

[Stash]

I don't agree with that.

Saying "every team has weaknesses..." is an accepted generality that is really not saying anything at all.

A coach with true leadership qualities would make players accountable and stifle a bunch of this nonsense we've been seeing on the field.

Bill Parcells certainly had his warts and shortcomings, but I would venture to say that we wouldn't be having many of the issues we've seen manifesting with this team had he been here.

And no, this isn't a "bring Parcells back" rant, lol.

So what part of my post are you not agreeing with?

I also think a coach with treu leadership qualities could turn things around.

My point is that unless Jones backs off - as he did with Parcells, we'll never get a good coach to find out.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Yes and I say start by rebuilding the offensive line and scrapping the 3-4

scrapping the 3-4 based on what??

 

[realtick]

So what part of my post are you not agreeing with?

I also think a coach with treu leadership qualities could turn things around.

My point is that unless Jones backs off - as he did with Parcells, we'll never get a good coach to find out.

I guess I missed that...then I wholeheartedly agree!

 

[Hook'em#11]

Yes and I say start by rebuilding the offensive line and scrapping the 3-4

HERE! HERE!

 

[laythewood28]

Yes and I say start by rebuilding the offensive line and scrapping the 3-4

So you suggest trading away our two best defensive players(Ware and Spencer)?

 

[locked&loaded]

Leonard Davis-Sucks
Mark Columbo-Sucks
Keith Brooking- Sucks
Orlando Scandrick-Sucks
Gerald Sensabaugh-Sucks
Alan Ball-Sucks
Bradie James- Sucks


Our offense straight up sucks. We have 3 of, arguably, the most talented wrs in the game. All of whom have big bodies and leaping ability. Why dont we try to throw the ball down field more? Why dont we run more slants? They are big and quick with strong hands and tackle breaking ability. This should be a go to play!

Its hard for me to even blame Wade. These guys are all men. They have been playing football since 6th grade. When they get on the field its all on them.

 

[Stautner]

First, the Wade Phillips' era has to end. That much is obvious. A team takes on its coach's personality, problem is most head coaches by nature have a domineering personality.

Wade doesn't have that.

He sticks with his "treat men like men" routine that sounds admirable but isn't practical in an enviroment with a bunch of age 20-something multi-millionaires.

Moving beyond that, does this team's "nucleus" need to be blown up?

I'm talking about guys like Bradie James, Andre Gurode, Terrance Newman, et cetera.

Mike Jenkins was a fall-guy yesterday, but he mentioned something this offseason regarding the way the team finished last year. He said some players on the team started believing its (the team's) own hype and stopped preparing the way they should.

Jenkins also alluded to that again yesterday regarding chemistry.

I'm not claiming this is a fool-proof theory, but I'm starting to think there needs to be some serious player changes in the locker room and my gut tells me that some of the team's veterans need to be escorted towards the exits.

What are your thoughts?

I don't really consider some of these guys the nucleus anymore. None are really at the heart of the team, and some were very good for a peak period in their careers but that period is limited. I don't thik they are off limits - or shouldn't be.

We need O-linemen in a bad way. Every year we are hoping for something more than the year before with essentially the same group, but older, and in some cases fatter. I'm all for trading some of these guys for younger, more athletic linemen.

i'm actually starting to turn to the whole scrap the 3-4 thing too now.

i've been a defender of it...but i am so tired of seeing Ware and Spencer EVER drop into coverage. even though they can do it that is not using the talents of your players and they need to be rushing the passer.

i don't know but i see images of another Freeney/Mathis duo with those two lined up at DE.

the issue is how we've built the team for the 3-4 but i think it should be considered.

Like offense, defense relies on showing different looks to be successful. If you show exactly the same thing with the same people your defense will be predictable. Accordingly we may wee Ware or Spencer ocassionally drop back. That shouldn't be treated as a problem. At least one, and ususally both, are rushing on far and away the majority of passing downs.

 

[SDCowboy]

Leonard Davis-Sucks
Mark Columbo-Sucks
Keith Brooking- Sucks
Orlando Scandrick-Sucks
Gerald Sensabaugh-Sucks
Alan Ball-Sucks
Bradie James- Sucks


Our offense straight up sucks. We have 3 of, arguably, the most talented wrs in the game. All of whom have big bodies and leaping ability. Why dont we try to throw the ball down field more? Why dont we run more slants? They are big and quick with strong hands and tackle breaking ability. This should be a go to play!

Its hard for me to even blame Wade. These guys are all men. They have been playing football since 6th grade. When they get on the field its all on them.

Coming off a week of 500 yards and 27points with a missed FG is not the time to say our offense "straight up sucks". I agree with everything else though.

 

[locked&loaded]

Coming off a week of 500 yards and 27points with a missed FG is not the time to say our offense "straight up sucks". I agree with everything else though.

Our offense sucks when we get in the redzone?

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

It should start with the offensive line and then get rid of the 3-4 defense... I would love to see Ware and Spencer putting their hands down and going after the QB in the 4-3 that Tom Landry founded!