Don't force RB

[Teague31]

forcing picks is how we ended up with shante carver. We are just fine with McFadden, randle and Williams. If we don't draft a single back, i would be perfectly happy. Outside Gurley and maybe Gordon none of these guys are major upgrades over what we already have

 

[RS12]

Don't force RB

Dont force any pick. Drafting the board finally has this team headed in the right direction.

 

[Hardline]

Gurley or Gordon will both be BPA at 27.
I have no problem selecting either.
But if Gurley is on the board I might accidentally trip and embarrass myself running to give the selection card to the commissioner.

 

[reddyuta]

I am fine with most of the guys they brought in but i would hate it if they traded up for one.

 

[Derinyar]

Gurley or Gordon will both be BPA at 27.
I have no problem selecting either.
But if Gurley is on the board I might accidentally trip and embarrass myself running to give the selection card to the commissioner.

I'm not sure Gordon would be BPA at 27. It seems like he would be in the pack of high second round grades. Gurley I'd agree with him being BPA at 27.

 

[endersdragon]

I'm not sure Gordon would be BPA at 27. It seems like he would be in the pack of high second round grades. Gurley I'd agree with him being BPA at 27.

Who has him with a second round grade? CBSsports has him at 22, ESPN has him at 26, NFL.com has him at 23, draftbreakdown gave him a first round grade (they make it a little harder to figure out where exactly), walterfootball gave him a first round grade. Who in the world is giving him this second round grade?

As for the original post, while yes it is important that we don't force a RB, it is also important that we don't pass up on a running back assuming there will be on there in the next round. If Gordon is there, and we see that as a position of need, we draft him, end of story. To say, "Well there will be a RB there in the 2nd so let's wait until then" is stupid, because for all we know there might be 7 RBs drafted by the time we pick in the 2nd (wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a huge run on RBs in the last first early second) and even more by the time we pick in the 3rd.

 

[gmoney112]

Who has him with a second round grade? CBSsports has him at 22, ESPN has him at 26, NFL.com has him at 23, draftbreakdown gave him a first round grade (they make it a little harder to figure out where exactly), walterfootball gave him a first round grade. Who in the world is giving him this second round grade?

As for the original post, while yes it is important that we don't force a RB, it is also important that we don't pass up on a running back assuming there will be on there in the next round. If Gordon is there, and we see that as a position of need, we draft him, end of story. To say, "Well there will be a RB there in the 2nd so let's wait until then" is stupid, because for all we know there might be 7 RBs drafted by the time we pick in the 2nd (wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a huge run on RBs in the last first early second) and even more by the time we pick in the 3rd.

He has a first round grade, yeah.. but I don't think there will be two RB's picked in the first. Team's know they can get a quality RB in the 2, early 3rd this year so I really only expect 1 to go in the first round and I think it'll be Gurley. Could be Gordon, especially if a team is hesitant about Gurley's injury, but I only see 1 in the first. Just my opinion.

I also wouldn't be surprised if there was a huge run on backs in the 2nd and early 3rd. There's just so many good guys coming out this year. If Gordon drops out of the first he'll probably be one of the first couple picks in the 2nd.

But back to the OP, I definitely don't think we're "okay" with our current lineup. I wouldn't "force" a pick either, but Gurley/Gordon *could* be BPA at 27, and a RB could definitely be BPA in the 2nd.

I like to think of it as, "what do I honesty believe the difference in Points Scored over the course of a season would be with say, Gurley/Gordon over McFadden and Co.?" With our OL, I believe a talented back could lead to a substantial increase in points scored over the alternatives, especially with our OL and their increasing ability to get our RB in space before contact.

It seems like it'd be counter-intuitive to build such a dominating offensive line and then trotting out average RB's. I wouldn't reach or trade up for one by any means, but if there's one with a similar grade in the first 2 rounds as other potential picks, I'm probably taking him.

 

[theogt]

Outside of Gordon and Gurley, none of the guys in this draft are worth a pick before the 4th, to be honest.

 

[AzorAhai]

I really hope I'm wrong, but it would not surprisie me 1 bit if they jumped up to 23 if Gurley is on the board. I love the kid, but I have little interest in trading up unless the value is outstanding. Like a 5th or future 4th. I could live with that.

I really believe one of Gurley and Gordon is there at 27. SD and Arizona are the 2 teams I would worry about taking them, but SD could just as easily decide to draft an OT. Arizona could easily pick up a top DL talent like Harold as I think he's the last of the upper echelon edge rushers that will be available. If either of those teams takes a RB, I actually think it's Gordon. Gurley may have to go on Pup, and both teams would need to lean on the RB selected heavily. SD has zero RBs on the roster worth anything, and I don't know that Palmer will be healthy enough to start the season. They both may decide to take the immediate healthy player in Gordon or pass on Gurley for a healthy RB in rd 2.

People have to remember, when you say Gurley and Gordon will be gone, and point to the other RBs in the draft, these other teams are saying the same thing. Do they take a plug and play DE or OT in rd 1 with a plug and play RB in rd2, or a plug and play RB in Rd 1, and a more questionable DE/OT in RD 2.

Man I can't wait until draft day.

 

[AzorAhai]

Outside of Gordon and Gurley, none of the guys in this draft are worth a pick before the 4th, to be honest.

I'm starting to lean that way as well. Buck Allen may be my next favorite value pick outside of Gurley and Gordon.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Outside of Gordon and Gurley, none of the guys in this draft are worth a pick before the 4th, to be honest.

I wouldn't go that far but I do agree that there isn't much separation among the rest of the RBs. If Gurley and Gordon are gone before 27, I sit tight and wait until the 3rd before considering taking a RB.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

They won't.

They're having visits by numerous backs, which tells me they're comfortable going in a number of directions.

If the two top guys are gone by #27, the Cowboys will simply take the highest rated player available.

 

[Risen Star]

Don't force OL. We are just fine with Livings, Bernadeau and Costa.

 

[Risen Star]

They won't.

They're having visits by numerous backs, which tells me they're comfortable going in a number of directions.

If the two top guys are gone by #27, the Cowboys will simply take the highest rated player available.

Trust me, Mike. Whatever the Cowboys do, you'll like it.

This might be a good time to ask the board if there are any Matt Johnson/Anthony Hitchens types that nobody's talking about but everyone's secretly rooting for.

Or is that information only available after the draft?

 

[tm1119]

If the Commanders or Eagles had McFadden and Ryan Williams as their lead backs we'd be laughing at them calling them busts, but because they are Cowboys we are somehow fine at the position? Screw that....we have to draft a RB at some point in the 1st 4 rounds. Not saying we have to take 1 in the 1st, or even 2nd, but have to take someone at some point. As of right now I'm leaning towards Davis, Yeldon, or Allen in the 3rd.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

This is a deep class for running backs and one of them will prove to be a great value for one of Dallas's picks somewhere in the top three rounds. Given how many running backs the Cowboys are bringing in to visit, they seem to realize this as well.

 

[CATCH17]

Outside of Gordon and Gurley, none of the guys in this draft are worth a pick before the 4th, to be honest.

I think I agree with this.


I like Yeldon more than most because I do think there is upside there with that player but everyone else after Gurley and Gordon is a bunch of blah.


Of course 2 or 3 of them will pop and be really good pros but good luck figuring it out.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Trust me, Mike. Whatever the Cowboys do, you'll like it.

This might be a good time to ask the board if there are any Matt Johnson/Anthony Hitchens types that nobody's talking about but everyone's secretly rooting for.

Or is that information only available after the draft?

I've got a couple folks that I'm thinking of... but I'm not sure you're trustworthy enough to share that info with.

 

[Alexander]

Dont force any pick. Drafting the board finally has this team headed in the right direction.

Exactly. I see a lot of "forcing" with other positions (like CB) in the first and that will get you nowhere.

 

[Derinyar]

Who has him with a second round grade? CBSsports has him at 22, ESPN has him at 26, NFL.com has him at 23, draftbreakdown gave him a first round grade (they make it a little harder to figure out where exactly), walterfootball gave him a first round grade. Who in the world is giving him this second round grade?

As for the original post, while yes it is important that we don't force a RB, it is also important that we don't pass up on a running back assuming there will be on there in the next round. If Gordon is there, and we see that as a position of need, we draft him, end of story. To say, "Well there will be a RB there in the 2nd so let's wait until then" is stupid, because for all we know there might be 7 RBs drafted by the time we pick in the 2nd (wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a huge run on RBs in the last first early second) and even more by the time we pick in the 3rd.

Every single draft slotting you just mentioned is likely a second round grade. Pretty much everyone I've heard talk says they're giving about 13-16 1st round grades this year. The way the term works isn't saying someone will be drafted in the first round, just what they think about the talent. So 22, 26 and 23 are probably all in what are counted as second round grades as opposed to first round grades, even though they would be taken in the first round. I agree that its a little stupid to do things that way, but that's the prevailing terminology.