Dont see the upgrade for Philly

[jterrell]

All I know is that on March 12th, the Cowboys are a weaker team. 2014 may equal 2007.

pretty sweet that we don't play games in march huh?

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

He is pretty arrogant and believes he is the smartest guy in the room. That may be his downfall.

exactly

 

[coult44]

Murray is a one cut back which is ideal for Kelly's offense. He does not want a back dancing behind the LOS. He wants the RB to make the read and then go.

If he go's to Philly, success doesn't matter to him. He would be proving $$$ is more important than winning.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

realistically... with the eagles ability to get to the qb, and the upgrade in the secondary... put aside being a fan...
if they decide to run the ball, more short passing... play physically.. nobody thinks they can be solid? everyone things they are "garbage"? just a question.....
I don't know.... although I agree with Alexander, I think his arrogance will be their downfall....

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

If he go's to Philly, success doesn't matter to him. He would be proving $$$ is more important than winning.

I disagree... this is the only big contract of his career... he wants to win, but he has to think about the business, just like we had to think about the business....

 

[Ender]

All I know is that on March 12th, the Cowboys are a weaker team. 2014 may equal 2007.

Yea, but its march 12th.

 

[Ender]

realistically... with the eagles ability to get to the qb, and the upgrade in the secondary... put aside being a fan...
if they decide to run the ball, more short passing... play physically.. nobody thinks they can be solid? everyone things they are "garbage"? just a question.....
I don't know.... although I agree with Alexander, I think his arrogance will be their downfall....

I think they have two injury prone players, with no reliable wideouts as of now. Murray will face a lot of stacked boxes in Philly...

 

[hornitosmonster]

Anyone who has questions should look up Bradfords stats and report back

 

[coult44]

I disagree... this is the only big contract of his career... he wants to win, but he has to think about the business, just like we had to think about the business....

Old school vs new school. Rivalries, still matter to me. If he go's anywhere except an NFC east team, I wish him the best. If he ends up in Philly, I want to see the rest of his career end up like Miles Austin's, or Matt Johnson's. I don't wish anything serious, but a good case of chronic hammys would be suitable. Or perhaps, just for his career to disappear like Jones, Coice, and Barbers did.

 

[jterrell]

The Eagles are not a better team today. You can't lose Shady, Jackson, Maclin and think you scored. At this point Foles is better than Bradford. You get Bradfords cap and you lost a pick. Horrible

yup. agree completely.
murray might be one of the best backs in the league but they had that already in mccoy. at best the talent there is a lateral move.
the rest isn't even close.

no idea why they didn't move foles to a qb hungry team for picks.

murray is a good fit for philly but how good is that fit for murray?
where is the dez threat outside?
murray would be every team's top priority.
and if you already have sproles how many carries are you gonna give murray?

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I think they have two injury prone players, with no reliable wideouts as of now. Murray will face a lot of stacked boxes in Philly...

fair enough...
I don't know if chip plays the field position game... that's the only way I see a successful offense out of what they have

 

[KJJ]

Of replacing McCoy and Foles with Murray and Bradford. They can throw the read option out of the playbook because every team knows Bradford is not keeping the ball and running with it. In that case, you are left with Murray, an inferior, less creative, less home-run hitting back. He is tougher and will get the tough 4 yards. And he is more disciplined, so he will keep it in the designed hole. But I feel like the overall threat of Philly's running game has been diminished. That is especially true after losing Maclin. Other than Sproles, they have no down-the-field playmakers.

This is not sour grapes, because I didnt want us to re-sign Murray. Just use his money to sign Hardy or a premier CB quick...

If they replace McCoy with Murray that might make for an upgrade because they'll be replacing McCoy with a comparable back and have a potentially great young LB in Alonso if he can return to the form he showed as a rookie in Buffalo prior to his injury. Plus taking Murray away from the Cowboys and adding his production to their arsenal while taking a bite out of our running game could lead to a switch in power in the NFC East. They'll be taking away a player that the Cowboys rode past Philly to the playoffs.

It's one thing for Philly to replace McCoy with a comparable back but it's another thing having them accomplish that while taking a big bite out of the Cowboys offense. That's the dreaded double whammy. The Foles for Bradford trade makes no sense can't see anything good coming from that with Bradford's injury history and less than stellar production.

 

[jterrell]

Philly D is really good...
if they play our style of football, north south running, don't put the pressure on Bradford, pocket play.... they will be good...
but that just doesn't seem like chip kelly's way..... I think he's gonna have to prove he's a good coach by tweaking his philosophy...

philly's d is not really good.
it might become so but it is far from that right now.

alonso is still not fully recovered.
maxwell is a solid CB but he has 6 career INTs and was probably the single most overrated player in free agency.
the seahawks have lost secondary cbs for 3 or 4 years running and the defense keeps churning while the CBs who leave seem to fall apart quickly.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Old school vs new school. Rivalries, still matter to me. If he go's anywhere except an NFC east team, I wish him the best. If he ends up in Philly, I want to see the rest of his career end up like Miles Austin's, or Matt Johnson's. I don't wish anything serious, but a good case of chronic hammys would be suitable. Or perhaps, just for his career to disappear like Jones, Coice, and Barbers did.

I understand ... but from an objective stand point.... coming back here for a lower price tag would not have been a good decision for his only payday.. so I don't see him as choosing money over winning...... the cowboys played stone faced... so he did what he had to do....
from a subjective standpoint... I can't root for him... he's no longer a cowboy.... duces...

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

philly's d is not really good.
it might become so but it is far from that right now.

alonso is still not fully recovered.
maxwell is a solid CB but he has 6 career INTs and was probably the single most overrated player in free agency.
the seahawks have lost secondary cbs for 3 or 4 years running and the defense keeps churning while the CBs who leave seem to fall apart quickly.

man, I love you bro....we disagree often, keep it civil... hahaha...
I think the front 7 is a problem... but the secondary has a lot to prove...

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

If they replace McCoy with Murray that might make for an upgrade because they'll be replacing McCoy with a comparable back and have a potentially great young LB in Alonso if he can return to the form he showed as a rookie in Buffalo prior to his injury. Plus taking Murray away from the Cowboys and adding his production to their arsenal while taking a bite out of our running game could lead to a switch in power in the NFC East. They'll be taking away a player that the Cowboys rode past Philly to the playoffs.

It's one thing for Philly to replace McCoy with a comparable back but it's another thing having them accomplish that while taking a big bite out of the Cowboys offense. That's the dreaded double whammy. The Foles for Bradford trade makes no sense can't see anything good coming from that with Bradford's injury history and less than stellar production.

It depends what the Cowboys do. They have to show that they have a suitable replacement for Murray. If they do then it's a wash.

 

[KJJ]

Philly improved their secondary

Their D has been improved if Alonso can return to the form he showed as a rookie in Buffalo prior to his knee injury. I would easily take the potential he showed along with Murray in a trade for McCoy. You're coming away with a potentially great young LB who could end up being a star and a back who just led the league in rushing and is comparable to McCoy.

 

[Deep_South]

Any way you look at it, the Eagles not only get Murray, but the Cowboys lose Murray. Sounds good to Chip, I would guess - a win, win - but it all depends on how much they invest in him. Without the numbers, it just isn't possible to access the value of the deal for the Eagles, or the impact on the Cowboys.

 

[Bigdog]

They are building the All-Injured team.

exactly. No offense to Murray because I like him but he has not gone through his entire NFL career without getting some sort of significant injury.

 

[jterrell]

BTW, as a Dallas fan I make no bones about being anti-eagles.
The opposite is something I oculdn;t even fathom.

All that said I don't think my take is pure bias in this case.
I begrudgingly accepted Shady as being really friggin good.

And I know as a Dallas fan what I would hate is for Philly to end up with a few draft targets we like.
Them having Fletcher Cox hurts way worse than them signing Bradford or even Murray.
All those years of an affordable Cox in his prime is painful.
So I am glad they haven;t stacked draft picks int he top couple rounds and it would not break my heart if they traded up for Mariotta.