Doug Free and Gavin Escobar

[AmishCowboy]

Free like Brandon Carr is a serviceable player, every team needs them

 

[dfense]

Last night these 2 guys cost us big.

Holding penalties by Escobar..

QB sacks running around Free..

constantly killed drives and took big plays off the board.

They finally replaced Escobar with a OL guy for blocking and used other receivers in passing downs.

But nobody replaced Free and the same old problems persisted.

When the announcer finally said Free was the weaklink in the Cowboys OL and if you wanted a sack you lined up your best rusher and would get it..

I thought I would spit up my beer.

Free has to be replaced.

Before the playoffs start.

He is a liability that is being exploited badly and DAK is seriously in danger with Free in the game.

I never see Free downfield blocking..he does not do what the other OL do..

he can't pull and block..

he can't setup and pass block without a penalty

and if all he does is run block..

time to go.

Waiting until next season to replace him could be a huge mistake.

If all Escobar does is hold..time to go. He's replaceable.

Is Collins and Greene returning going to be enough to move Free out?

Opinions?

You forget to add Dak, for holding onto the ball too long at times. Free had some great blocks in the game. Zeke's longest run he buried his guy into the line.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

We are totally misusing and misunderstanding Escobar.

He was drafted with the mindset of having a major wide receiving threat at TE ala Hernandez or even Graham at the time. Escobar can still do that and that's what should be expected from him. When he was drafted, we knew he wasn't a dominating in line blocker.....now we are mad that he's not, really???

With all the complaining, we will probably run him out of town and he will put up numbers elsewhere cause guess what, he can catch the football and brings a whole nother dynamic than Swaim ever will.

Someone will get a starting TE for nothing when we run Escobar out of town. What a waste, then we will be complaining wanting someone else with his exact same ability. Swaim can block, ok great, we can get that in an undrafted free agent. What Escobar is actually good at, we will have to draft a guy higher than we want or hope for a miracle from a lottery ticket like Rico.

 

[xwalker]

Call 1-800-Tackle

No, get a time machine, go back two years and make a different decision on who to keep at RT.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm hoping Free's potential replacement will be acquired next year, whether via the draft, veteran FA or perhaps even a RT who gets cut. Green has been out too long and would only be rusty and still injury prone by the time he's ready again. We're due to look elsewhere for a possible replacement next year.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Free is 'okay' vs teams that don't have elite pass rushers.

He just needs help when we play those teams.

I seriously fear Free getting whipped by either Cliff Avril or JPP in the 2nd half of a playoff game. Garrett/Linehan don't really use TEs to help chip when needed.

But like someone else said, 80-85% of the time, Free is a good tackle.

 

[Doomsday101]

Last night these 2 guys cost us big.

Holding penalties by Escobar..

QB sacks running around Free..

constantly killed drives and took big plays off the board.

They finally replaced Escobar with a OL guy for blocking and used other receivers in passing downs.

But nobody replaced Free and the same old problems persisted.

When the announcer finally said Free was the weaklink in the Cowboys OL and if you wanted a sack you lined up your best rusher and would get it..

I thought I would spit up my beer.

Free has to be replaced.

Before the playoffs start.

He is a liability that is being exploited badly and DAK is seriously in danger with Free in the game.

I never see Free downfield blocking..he does not do what the other OL do..

he can't pull and block..

he can't setup and pass block without a penalty

and if all he does is run block..

time to go.

Waiting until next season to replace him could be a huge mistake.

If all Escobar does is hold..time to go. He's replaceable.

Is Collins and Greene returning going to be enough to move Free out?

Opinions?

Right now these are the players Dallas has, what Dallas may or may not do next season we will have to wait and see but right now Free is starting and Escobar will see playing time. Been this way for almost the entire 2016 season and results are an 11-1 record.

 

[conner01]

No, get a time machine, go back two years and make a different decision on who to keep at RT.

Lol
Don't think Parnell was worth what he got but it did surprise me they let the young guy go and kept the old guy

 

[JJHLH1]

Free is OK. He's fortunate to be playing next to the best offensive lineman in the league, Zack Martin.

Escobar on the other hand is a major liability and shouldn't be on the field.

 

[CapnCook]

Free is a pretty decent run blocker. If anything, get on the coaches for asking Free to pass block too much against one of the best pass rushing DEs in the league.

Why not put Frederick in there with the bad snap??? Kidding!

 

[Clove]

You forget to add Dak, for holding onto the ball too long at times. Free had some great blocks in the game. Zeke's longest run he buried his guy into the line.

You might want to watch that play again where Dak was stripped. He did NOT hold the ball too long. People see and conclude what they want, this includes you.

 

[Verdict]

Free had a bad night. He doesn't totally suck, but he's probably average and his arrow is pointing down. We should be looking hard for a right tackle in the first 3 rounds of the draft if the quality lines up with this need.

Escobar pretty much sucks and was a total waste of a 2nd round pick. He has stuck for the duration of his contract but he really has been the waste of a roster spot in the manner he is being used.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The first hold on Escobar was BS. The clip was bad but he missed on a hard slant inside. He is hardly the only one to do so even in that game.

Aside from the penalties, can you guys think of anything else Escobar did poorly or you just going to evlauate based on two plays?

 

[dallasdave]

Last night these 2 guys cost us big.

Holding penalties by Escobar..

QB sacks running around Free..

constantly killed drives and took big plays off the board.

They finally replaced Escobar with a OL guy for blocking and used other receivers in passing downs.

But nobody replaced Free and the same old problems persisted.

When the announcer finally said Free was the weaklink in the Cowboys OL and if you wanted a sack you lined up your best rusher and would get it..

I thought I would spit up my beer.

Free has to be replaced.

Before the playoffs start.

He is a liability that is being exploited badly and DAK is seriously in danger with Free in the game.

I never see Free downfield blocking..he does not do what the other OL do..

he can't pull and block..

he can't setup and pass block without a penalty

and if all he does is run block..

time to go.

Waiting until next season to replace him could be a huge mistake.

If all Escobar does is hold..time to go. He's replaceable.

Is Collins and Greene returning going to be enough to move Free out?

Opinions?

Free ride is over

 

[dallasdave]

91 was terrible. Let's do 92-95

3 Super Bowl wins- nice starting point

 

[dallasdave]

When there are threads about this current Oline vs the 90s Oline, how can you even consider this one better.

Jay novacek wasn't a great blocker and the 90s line went up against hall of fame DEs like Reggie White, Bruce smith ect

And the 90s Oline was cheaper

Jay was one great receiver Our last Super Bowl win Jay caught the first TD. Troys safety blanket.

 

[landryscorner]

I agree with OP these two guys need to hit the road. Letting DF play in the playoffs is a dire gamble here's why...

Playoff teams have great defenses who EXPLOIT weak links....Doug Free is a weak link no doubt about that I've said it before
here on the forums teams have been scheming against FREE since the season started he's been lucky but his luck is running
out and it will cost us.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

The first hold on Escobar was BS. The clip was bad but he missed on a hard slant inside. He is hardly the only one to do so even in that game.

Aside from the penalties, can you guys think of anything else Escobar did poorly or you just going to evlauate based on two plays?

Just those 2 plays are all that matters.

Dak fumbled twice, he better watch out.

 

[Bullflop]

Free is vulnerable to the missed pass block every now and then, mostly vs. an elite DE -- nevertheless, he's serviceable. Escobar is quite capable of the occasional catch but not reliable when a crucial block is required. I suspect both may be targeted for replacement within the next offseason if a reasonably capable candidate can be had in the mid to later rounds of the draft and/or veteran free agency.

DE, LB and CB should rightfully be sought first, though, in order to fortify a defense that cries desperately for additional help. Another draft to equal or at least mimic the last one would be a welcome blessing. It could also serve, as well, as a potential forerunner to yet another run at a Super Bowl in 2017. The C'boys' scouting staff has been on a roll the last several years, so that prospect doesn't really appear too far fetched.

 

[CCBoy]

Free is vulnerable to the missed pass block every now and then, mostly vs. an elite DE -- nevertheless, he's serviceable. Escobar is quite capable of the occasional catch but not reliable when a crucial block is required. I suspect both may be targeted for replacement within the next offseason if a reasonably capable candidate can be had in the mid to later rounds of the draft and/or veteran free agency.

DE, LB and CB should rightfully be sought first, though, in order to fortify a defense that cries desperately for additional help. Another draft to equal or mimic the last one would be a welcome blessing, as well as being a potential forerunner to another run at a Super Bowl in 2017.

lol, and with current free agent thinking in the management group...unless there is a bargain, free agency is not the preferred route to improve roster.