Dr Z, Merriman, Who cares about steroids?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/12/06/ranks.part1/index.html

Dr Z states about the Chargers:

No one ever will admit this, but I think Shawne Merriman's four-game suspension worked in the club's favor. They won all four while he was gone, and when he came back against the Bills, he was rested and raring to go. So what did he do? Two sacks, two forced fumbles, four pressures and a pass knocked down.

Am I the only one that finds this player distasteful after his little steroids suspension? Why does the media continue to pump up good things cheating players do? He cheated the system and Dr Z completely ignores this and depicts him as a defensive force after he "rested" and came back raring to go.

Why not pay more attention to players who work incredibly hard every day and don't break the rules? Their accomplishments may not be as sexy or game-changing, but at least they've shown some ethics. This is what hurts the league - players that do steriods, regardless of breaking the rules, are lauded for their play. I call BS...

Nuf of my rant.

Go Cowboys!
 

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The NFL is their cash-cow. It's the biggest thing going. If they can help it by sweeping this stuff under the rug, pretending it never happened, and moving on, I'm sure they will. /conspiracy off/ It irks me too, though.
 

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DrunkWithPower;1213339 said:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/12/06/ranks.part1/index.html

Dr Z states about the Chargers:



Am I the only one that finds this player distasteful after his little steroids suspension? Why does the media continue to pump up good things cheating players do? He cheated the system and Dr Z completely ignores this and depicts him as a defensive force after he "rested" and came back raring to go.

Why not pay more attention to players who work incredibly hard every day and don't break the rules? Their accomplishments may not be as sexy or game-changing, but at least they've shown some ethics. This is what hurts the league - players that do steriods, regardless of breaking the rules, are lauded for their play. I call BS...

Nuf of my rant.

Go Cowboys!

I am more curious to see what Merriman does after this season into next year.

IMO all his stats this year carry an asterisk (*) by them.

I wanna see what he can do when he is clean.

Yes, people ignoring the fact that he cheated and is the best defensive player is a joke.
 

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He will always be tainted. I was listening to Keyshawn Johnson's show on NFL radio, and he basically said that the players that use roids in the league always seem to find a way to get by with it. Some get caught, but that usually doesn't stop them.
 

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smarta5150;1213349 said:
I am more curious to see what Merriman does after this season into next year.

IMO all his stats this year carry an asterisk (*) by them.

I wanna see what he can do when he is clean.

Yes, people ignoring the fact that he cheated and is the best defensive player is a joke.
The question is, will he ever be clean?
 

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smarta5150;1213349 said:
I am more curious to see what Merriman does after this season into next year.

IMO all his stats this year carry an asterisk (*) by them.

I wanna see what he can do when he is clean.

Yes, people ignoring the fact that he cheated and is the best defensive player is a joke.
The funny thing is that they point to the suspension and his performance against the Bills (woo-hoo) as evidence that "he's back." As though the benefits reaped from the nandrolone wore off in 4 weeks.
 

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Would you feel that whay if he had a star on his helment???
 

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DrunkWithPower;1213339 said:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/12/06/ranks.part1/index.html

Dr Z states about the Chargers:



Am I the only one that finds this player distasteful after his little steroids suspension? Why does the media continue to pump up good things cheating players do? He cheated the system and Dr Z completely ignores this and depicts him as a defensive force after he "rested" and came back raring to go.

Why not pay more attention to players who work incredibly hard every day and don't break the rules? Their accomplishments may not be as sexy or game-changing, but at least they've shown some ethics. This is what hurts the league - players that do steriods, regardless of breaking the rules, are lauded for their play. I call BS...

Nuf of my rant.

Go Cowboys!

I have been saying the same thing. He is a cheater, plain and simple.
 

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DCBoysfan;1213360 said:
Would you feel that whay if he had a star on his helment???

I would be very disappointed in 1 of our own in doing something like he did.
 

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2635475

And we haven't even mentioned the fact the substance found in his system was definitely not from supplements. This guy knowingly took steroids to cheat the system. What does that say to all the kids out there working their butts off to get a chance in sports? Cheat! Do anything you can to get in!

Sux...
 

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superpunk;1213357 said:
The funny thing is that they point to the suspension and his performance against the Bills (woo-hoo) as evidence that "he's back." As though the benefits reaped from the nandrolone wore off in 4 weeks.


I wonder how many players had a game like his this past Sun. Look I love the fact that Ware is a Cowboy but some people on this board seems to hate on Merriman because he gets alot of attention and Ware does not. But the fact is he is a very good player, but so is Ware. They just do diffrent things. Merriman has S. Phiilps (sp) who has like 11 sacks to play with and Ware is the focal point of Dallas's pass rush. And as far as the suspension we just cut a guy who severed a 4 game suspension.
 

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Would you feel that whay if he had a star on his helment???

Yes. I don't condone cheating. If you can't cut it through hard work and dedication you shouldn't be in the league. Cowboys players have long been in the media for their stupid conduct and I'm glad we've turned that around. We've got a young team with good character and I hope we continue choosing players who will do the right thing.
 

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Honestly, I couldn't care less.

Whether or not Merriman purposely took them or accidently took them, or is clean or not, I don't care...

All I care about is if we end up playing each other in the Super Bowl, how our team handles him....
 

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DrunkWithPower;1213381 said:
Yes. I don't condone cheating. If you can't cut it through hard work and dedication you shouldn't be in the league. Cowboys players have long been in the media for their stupid conduct and I'm glad we've turned that around. We've got a young team with good character and I hope we continue choosing players who will do the right thing.

I agree. Regardless of which team a player is on the use of steroids is cheating and the player should be suspended.
 

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DCBoysfan;1213380 said:
I wonder how many players had a game like his this past Sun. Look I love the fact that Ware is a Cowboy but some people on this board seems to hate on Merriman because he gets alot of attention and Ware does not. But the fact is he is a very good player, but so is Ware. They just do diffrent things. Merriman has S. Phiilps (sp) who has like 11 sacks to play with and Ware is the focal point of Dallas's pass rush. And as far as the suspension we just cut a guy who severed a 4 game suspension.

Cheating is a pariah in sports. If Merriman cleans up, tests out, and continues to dominate - more power to him. I love Ware no matter what. I hardly view a drinking the same as I do enhancing your body to gain an edge on your opponents. That's wrong, no matter how you look at it, and is viewed in a very negative light.
 

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DrunkWithPower;1213381 said:
Yes. I don't condone cheating. If you can't cut it through hard work and dedication you shouldn't be in the league. Cowboys players have long been in the media for their stupid conduct and I'm glad we've turned that around. We've got a young team with good character and I hope we continue choosing players who will do the right thing.

Is that how you felt about Marcus Colemen when he came back from his suspension, or because his was for drinking he gets a past?
 

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superpunk;1213391 said:
Cheating is a pariah in sports. If Merriman cleans up, tests out, and continues to dominate - more power to him. I love Ware no matter what. I hardly view a drinking the same as I do enhancing your body to gain an edge on your opponents. That's wrong, no matter how you look at it, and is viewed in a very negative light.


Both actions are wrong, which is why they both got the same punishment.
 

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what amazes me is the sports media is all over bonds, some won't vote for him to get to the h.o.f. because he did exactly what merriman did and the media seems to think it's no big deal with merriman.merriman is a fine player and will be off the juice. but the rules are the rules and merriman broke them. it should be treated the same way bonds was treated.not only did he use a banned sustance but steroids are a controled substance so he also broke the law. the feds are investigating bonds, why not merriman? the same rules should apply to all players. can you imagine what the media would be saying if t.o. got caught using steroids?
 

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DCBoysfan;1213380 said:
I wonder how many players had a game like his this past Sun. Look I love the fact that Ware is a Cowboy but some people on this board seems to hate on Merriman because he gets alot of attention and Ware does not. But the fact is he is a very good player, but so is Ware. They just do diffrent things. Merriman has S. Phiilps (sp) who has like 11 sacks to play with and Ware is the focal point of Dallas's pass rush. And as far as the suspension we just cut a guy who severed a 4 game suspension.

We dont hate on Merriman. We try to figure out who was a better pick between him and Ware. Its constructive criticism.

We are only "hating" him now cause he USED steroids... puts up huge numbers... and these so called "experts" throw names out there like LT and give him the title best defensive player blah blah blah.

All the "cheaters" in baseball are looked down upon... Guys like McGwire, Bonds, Sosa, etc. have all their stats over shadowed by steroid. Its the complete opposite in the NFL and that is just plain wrong.

Steroids gives a player an edge (obviously). Merriman was on steroids and had that edge. Like I said, I wanna see if he can do what he does when he is clean.

He cheated the league, the players, his teammates and coaches. He let them down by missing 4 games (I understand they went 4-0 anyway). He set bad examples for younger kids that looked up to him. Something like this should tarnish a player and he continues to get POSITIVE attention.

So if you wanna say we hate him cause he gets more attention their Ware you are half right. We hate him because he cheats the game and then gets praised on his "comeback."
 
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