Draft priorty

[big dog cowboy]

After a trade down to 16-18, would like to see it go WR, CB. RB and OT.

Got any plans on helping the run defense?

 

[Spottswoode]

Good points...but Im willing to bet a hanburger on Tuesday that Sanders will be there . Theres our trade down target. Or maybe Jeanty

Hope you are right. I think this year it’s going to take someone falling. I would also bet there will be a number of teams that would prefer to move down as well.

We may need some luck that pick 12 is the spot a team needs to get to v. another spot slightly before or after us.

 

[75boyz]

My armchair GM eyes see the failure of the team to stop opposing run games as more deficient than the role of secondary wide receiver play.

The ideal scenario for me is a trade down and a DT pick.
Then a RB.
WR comes in at third for me.

I have a hard time seeing those last years run defense embarrassments and saying that a WR would have been the fix.
It ain't just last year either, this team weakness has been going on for years. I'd prefer this be fixed first.

Just my opinion though.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I ain't as sold on the McMillan kid as some.
I'd prefer Egbuka in the 2nd if he was still there and then I'd wrestle with taking a WR over a RB.

well that is something we would have to draft within first 2 rounds of the draft because after that the talent drops dramatically and we have enough of those types of WR3's and WR4's in Jalen Tolbert, Brooks, Flourney, etc.... Defenses don't have to worry about them and they didn't especially when they don't have to worry about a running game.. We need a top talent who can demand respect from defenders and be a threat alongside CeeDee Lamb. If you don't like TMac, what about Golden. He is actually a better route runner and faster, can get seperation on a more consistant level.
I really like Ebuka and he would probably be the best match for our offense, maybe not as much ceiling as Golden and TMac but a top threat nonetheless, but he won't be there at #44 pick IMO. I think we should try and trade down in the first, pick up a 2nd or third, and get Ebuka with that. That would be great. then grab Henderson or Judkins in 2nd round, then finally a DT or CB in third.

 

[75boyz]

well that is something we would have to draft within first 2 rounds of the draft because after that the talent drops dramatically and we have enough of those types of WR3's and WR4's in Jalen Tolbert, Brooks, Flourney, etc.... Defenses don't have to worry about them and they didn't especially when they don't have to worry about a running game.. We need a top talent who can demand respect from defenders and be a threat alongside CeeDee Lamb. If you don't like TMac, what about Golden. He is actually a better route runner and faster, can get seperation on a more consistant level.
I really like Ebuka and he would probably be the best match for our offense, maybe not as much ceiling as Golden and TMac but a top threat nonetheless, but he won't be there at #44 pick IMO. I think we should try and trade down in the first, pick up a 2nd or third, and get Ebuka with that. That would be great. then grab Henderson or Judkins in 2nd round, then finally a DT or CB in third.

Yep, I hear ya man. You nailed a part of my best what if scenario.

I can't decide on DTs Grant or Nolen as my first trade down pick in the first but you were right on point with my hoping Egbuka being available for that traded 2nd or pick 44 at WR. The second 2nd rd pick on best available RB.

Another DT and a corner to follow for me.

I know mine is about as dreamful what if scenario as they come but it's about as good at optimism as I can muster with the current state of the roster.

jmo

 

[Bullflop]

I think they go into every year wanting to do that but then they get these guys that are all very similar kind of hard to break BPA unless you use need like if there's a tie, they're all 3 guys that come up when it's your turn and then they got to make a quick decision and sometimes they get it wrong... And you're right they've done it other teams have done it you can't go in thinking position you gotta think about impact player you take the most impactful player but for your team like it fits your offense or fits your defense so there's a fine line between best player available and need.

Because if this were true just hypothetically Shadeur Sanders if he ends up at 12 in my opinion if there were talks all offseason about him possibly being a top five pick but he's a clear first rounder and he may be raw why would you not take the quarterback if it's BBA it breaks most rules and most ties if there's a quarterback that has that kind of potential and he slips to you even though you don't need one today you're supposed to take him...

I know now you're going to say no take BPA but then you're going to take out three or four positions what if it happens to be the Penn State tight end? Are you saying if he's there at 12 to take him because there are people saying he probably is worth it that people are under raiding him right now he could be one of the better tight end prospects that came out in a while other than Brock Bowers maybe he could be that guy I don't know but this is where this debate comes in if there's a position that you don't want because you don't need it well isn't that the same thing as not taking bpa?

Admittedly, no matter what an individual does, there will always be a likelihood for mistakes in selecting our draft picks. It seems like we always end up paying more attention to our greatest needs, regardless of whether their most likely the most beneficial selections or not. Many other teams that go BPA seem to come away with good results. Maybe we should just try it more than we do.

Actually, there's usually a time for picking needy positions, since we have so many that could easily be attended to at almost any certain point in the draft. Let's just hope they prove especially helpful when it comes time for them to perform. I can't help but question if Jerry follows Will McClay's advice quite as faithfully as he probably should. I find it virtually impossible to trust Jerry's judgment.

 

[Canada180]

My armchair GM eyes see the failure of the team to stop opposing run games as more deficient than the role of secondary wide receiver play.

The ideal scenario for me is a trade down and a DT pick.
Then a RB.
WR comes in at third for me.

I have a hard time seeing those last years run defense embarrassments and saying that a WR would have been the fix.
It ain't just last year either, this team weakness has been going on for years. I'd prefer this be fixed first.

Just my opinion though.

Lotsa DTs this year.
Golden would be so good in a trade down. We can get a good DT easily in the second or 3rd. Methinks

 

[BrassCowboy]

Yep, I hear ya man. You nailed a part of my best what if scenario.

I can't decide on DTs Grant or Nolen as my first trade down pick in the first but you were right on point with my hoping Egbuka being available for that traded 2nd or pick 44 at WR. The second 2nd rd pick on best available RB.

Another DT and a corner to follow for me.

I know mine is about as dreamful what if scenario as they come but it's about as good at optimism as I can muster with the current state of the roster.

jmo

but with the trade down pick in the first, I am pretty sure I would look to see if Hampton is still there and grab him if he is, then just get best available WR at #44

 

[plasticman]

RB
DT
CB
WR
OL
LB
QB

Can't whiff on a RB for three straight drafts. Just can't. Really, they should take two.

Strengthening the middle is the defense's first priority. They need a big ugly in the middle of that D-line.

As far as CB, don't count on anybody currently on the roster. Diggs and Bland were damaged, Lewis is gone. They need to throw a lot of guys into the mix, including veteran free agents or those cut just before the regular season.

Lamb needs a buddy but I like the progressions of both Tolbert and Turpin and they have others with potential. Another WR would help but the position is not as dire as it seems. The RBs will be taking a more active role in the passing game

 

[75boyz]

but with the trade down pick in the first, I am pretty sure I would look to see if Hampton is still there and grab him if he is, then just get best available WR at #44

Good call, my thinking as well; no doubt.

 

[75boyz]

Lotsa DTs this year.
Golden would be so good in a trade down. We can get a good DT easily in the second or 3rd. Methinks

Yep, if ever there was a year to improve the Cowboys defensive tackle play, this is about as good as it gets.

 

[Chuck 54]

Much talk about drafting a WR with are first pick. If we select a WR at 12, he better be an absolute stud. We need a another WR but what we’re paying Lamb huge $$, can we really afford it? I’m convinced the regardelss of need we should be selecting the best available player, rds 1-3.
Im hoping for of DT, OT, MLB or perhaps a Stud CB. We need to run and stop the run first and foremost.
Or if we trade down get more picks then draft WR, Edge LB, or RB in round 1
Discuss

We have seen this offense sputter before and after Cooper. An offense just cannot sustain itself with only 1 WR who can get open consistently. That’s why, as bad as their defense and OL is, Cinncy wouldn’t let Higgins get away.

We can get away with Steele, Guyton, Richards, and others at OT, and we can get away with our group at RG until the right opportunity comes along. If we were to draft a RG, I would do it at the expense of having to wait till the third round for a guy like Giddings. But after the top three WRs, the fourth is reportedly a laid back DIVA who is last in line when running drills, and after him, you are just throwing darts at more Tolbert and Brooks clones.

 

[Chasing6]

We need someone to take triple coverage off of CeeDee who is better than:

Tolbert
Brooks
Fluornoy
Turp

If either of these guys get significant targets/snaps, the Cowboys are in trouble IMO.

Maybe a dominant OLine and a good running game would help with that.

 

[doomsday9084]

IMO WR is a fantastically overvalued position that Dallas is currently heavily invested in with CeeDee. Its really far down the list on the holes to fill list. WR2 is only going to get a handful of balls thrown his way.

 

[Bates]

5 years from now lamb will be 31 years old and we will probably be ready to move on or have him take less money.

Yes. I think that’s the point in this methodology. WR is a big money position. To get a great wr2 in FA is going to cost. Draft a top wr for wr2 (cheap rookie) then maybe let lamb move on, give wr2 his big contract and repeat.

 

[boysfanindc]

Got any plans on helping the run defense?

Plenty of decent DT's after the 4th round.

 

[Creeper]

Take the player that is going to help the team the most. The WR group is not very good this year which is why it is assumed teams needing WRs will draft them early, hoping to get one of the top receivers.

But, I am not sure any of the WRs in this draft are really going to move the needle that much, especially in their rookie year.

If boils down to who is available. If Membou is there take him. If it is a DT take him. If it is a CB take him. The Cowboys have so many areas of need they are sure to get a player in the first round who can help even if they trade down.

 

[Flamma]

I know they're not going to do this, but I'd wait until day 3 or next year to address the skilled positions. We're not putting together a championship team with one draft.

Someone did a mock draft, and I completely agree with the first 2 days.

12. DE Stewart
44. DT Collins
76. OG Milum

Then if Dallas gets skilled positions next year, these guys will already have a year under their belt to work out any kinks.

 

[blueblood70]

I know they're not going to do this, but I'd wait until day 3 or next year to address the skilled positions. We're not putting together a championship team with one draft.

Someone did a mock draft, and I completely agree with the first 2 days.

12. DE Stewart
44. DT Collins
76. OG Milum

Then if Dallas gets skilled positions next year, these guys will already have a year under their belt to work out any kinks.

I don't agree with this,
but I'll play, at number 12, we do not need a defensive end that bad... Why don't you get your defensive tackle there whoever the best one is that's who you get... Because I believe there might be one there and not a deep draft for those..

I mean if we're not going to take a wide receiver, running back tight ,end even though it's BPA now everyone's saying we should just go get NEED people.. No, Dante Fowler, Sam Williams, Turner ,Parsons, and Kneeland are already here along with rotating in wheat and whoever else.. I'm pretty sure that's not who I'm taking it 12, even in this scenario...

so, at 44 im going CB

76- That's the other thing dude we have too many guards we'll have plenty to bolster the center of this line already here..

I not sure why you're saying that , but where's the tackles, we literally have less tackles even on the team available, and that's where our cracks were last year, and you pick a guard? So maybe there's an offensive tackle in here at seventy-six but I'm just playing your game this is not my scenario.. I mean literally you have at interior OL; Tyler smith, Hoffman, Bass, Jones, Beebee, Shepley, and this dude I can't pronounce his name we just picked up.

My scenario to get this done before next year is ,

you have to trade down 5 maybe eight spots in the first, and pick up a 3rd rounder and possibly a 4th or more by moving down ,this then you pick up the wide receiver or running back lower in the first there's less risk and then now at 44 you could stay on track for whatever they were thinking it's probably going to be a running back or wide receiver so you're taking it in round 1 and round 2 or they go with corner there at 44 but at seventy six then you have to go get your corner.​

.. And in my opinion again, I don't think we need an offensive lineman that bad, but maybe one of those above would be a defensive tackle in the 1st 3 rounds along with either wide receiver or running back but there's a lot of scenarios.

And now I'm not done so now I take the extra 5th rounder and possibly one of the force that we picked up and moved back into the 3rd so we have 2 3rd round picks so now you can get both so now in the first three rounds we have gotten wide receiver we have gotten running back we've got defensive tackle or corner..​

I can see them thinking like some of you and I that they need more than what they have now so they're going to move down and probably move back up if needed but moving around seems to be the best thing for this particular draft to get more good players instead of like two great ones and no I'm not talking about a stupid special team's draft or the one where we got shcoonmaker and What not those didn't turn out to be great just getting backups but there should be a lot of movement if that's where their heads at and it'll be in the first round when we'll know where their heads at if they move out because they know their target can still be had at the end of the first round and then they get more picks whatever that is so the further you move down the more picks you're going to get we could end up getting a 3rd and 2 4th rounders depending on how much we move around...
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[Flamma]

I don't agree with this,
but I'll play, at number 12, we do not need a defensive end that bad... Why don't you get your defensive tackle there whoever the best one is that's who you get.

and you pick a guard?

Yes, a guard is a safer pick than a tackle at 76. I took the DE at 12 because there was no tackle worth taking at 12 that we could get. Think of it this way. You can never go wrong by drafting trenches unless you pick flat out busts. My goal is to stockpile, then go elsewhere. I want to make sure we have a good DL and OL. Everyone isn't going to make it. But get that right first. I also do not disagree with you on the CB at 44. That very well may be the best choice. But we have to see how things play out.