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DaBoys4Life;2060751 said:
1a Felix Jones RB arkansas- This is the most disappointing pick IMO and i feel as if Jerry dropped the ball. Not only was a better RB on the board at the time of this pick the highest rated player left on our board was still there. He has the biggest bust factor on him in this draft and we will quickly regret this pick its because of his lack of pass blocking ability him going down easily or his lack of big plays.

1b Mike Jenkins CB USF We decided to trade up three spots to get this kid not a bad idea since at one point he was consider the top CB heading into the draft however, if we would have just taken him at 22 it would have been better and jerry was to quick and impulsive taken Jones at 22.

2 Martellus Bennent TE Texas A&M we have an all pro TE in the form of Jason Witten. This kid i can't see him serving as nothing more than just height in the goaline. Jerry said there was no impact WR in this draft how ever there is no way and shape in form a TE could impact this team more than a WR would have some big names were still on the board that could have grown into #1's and 2. TE in the second round again man whats the point of having one of if not the best TE in the league. This guy is 6'7 and is a TE James Hardy is 6'6 would have made more of an impact but we will see.

4 Tashard Choice RB GT best pick in the draft for us behind Jenkins he single handed made me feel better about the day one crap feast we called a draft. Selecting a RB with to many question marks beside him and is out bench pressed by some of the members on this board (Felix Jones) incase some people didn't know who i was talking about.

5 Orlando Scandrick CB Boise ST idk who this guy is but its a corner who runs in the 4.3 area. I'm not to sure about this guy but hey like i said 4.3 speed isn't bad he could run around on special teams for the next 5-7 years since the depth we have at CB now is crazy.

6 Erik Walden DE Mid Tenn yay ! just what we need more OLB/DE hybrids for this 3-4 system of ours. I don't know much about this pick either but *meh* this is exactly what we need an OLB.

One of the things that i dislike about this draft are that most of the players we drafted we're JR. I think its better to get SR players unless the JR is a stand out like Mendenhall or Mcfadden. TE in the 2nd round again another LB 2 CB's 2 RB's cant say im happy with this in the least. Jenkins and Choice made the trade every one else will be lucky to be on the roster in the next 3 years.

This draft improved our specialt teams coverage tremendously so i guyess i can't be to upset =/

you serious?
Go back again and look at how many big plays he has produced.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060846 said:
OMG this is a 2 back system oh noes i didn't know that. This coming from the guy who didn't think felix jones fumbled in college because ESPN said so. Just stop while you are behind. Theres a point where the hype of the SEC defense and the reality of NFL defense comes to be. Once Felix hits that wall we will see. I don't even think Felix will be our number two RB heading into the start of the regular season i think Tashard Choice will be ahead of him.

IMO the Cowboys liked Felix Jones over Mendenhall because he offers more versatility than Mendenhall. According to Jerry Jones, Mendenhall and Felix Jones were ranked even on their board and it was coin flip decision in selecting Felix Jones. According to the NFL Network Jerry Jones and Wade Phillips were concerned about Mendenhall's "mental toughness". I really don't have a problem with Cowboys selecting Jones over Mendenhall, since they were ranked pretty close in their overall evaulation. Plus DaBoys4Life, no disrespect, but ESPN's Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, along with the NFL Network's Mike Mayok have alittle more credability than you.
 

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ok, clear this once and for all. Felix runs hard and does not go down easy like a lot of people think. The guy finishes runs and doesnt not get armed tackled, hence why this guy broke so many long runs. Go watch the videos please!
 

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jjktkk;2061956 said:
IMO the Cowboys liked Felix Jones over Mendenhall because he offers more versatility than Mendenhall. According to Jerry Jones, Mendenhall and Felix Jones were ranked even on their board and it was coin flip decision in selecting Felix Jones. According to the NFL Network Jerry Jones and Wade Phillips were concerned about Mendenhall's "mental toughness". I really don't have a problem with Cowboys selecting Jones over Mendenhall, since they were ranked pretty close in their overall evaulation. Plus DaBoys4Life, no disrespect, but ESPN's Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, along with the NFL Network's Mike Mayok have alittle more credability than you.

Ok i am still allowed to post my opinion seeing at to how this is the internet and a forum to discuss the cowboys credibility or not still my point is made.

CPonder14;2061816 said:
you serious?
Go back again and look at how many big plays he has produced.

he will not produce like that in the pros that is what i meant.

DallasEast;2061805 said:
:wink2:

When the pick wasn't Mendenhall, I was upset because I wanted Jerry Jones to stick to the board, but I started to think of what positives Felix Jones could bring to Garrett's offense in relation to what Mendenhall could have. Needless to say, I have seen some things which Jones can do as a change of pace back which Mendenhall couldn't.

The pick makes sense for the style of offense we run. Now, if we're going to get away from the 2-back system and convert to a one-back, pounded it between the tackles, run-first type of offense, then we made a mistake in not selecting Mendenhall.

One thing's for certain. Training camp can't get here quick enough to get some off Felix Jones' jock.

Rashard Mendenhall can play in a 2 back system he did share the carries with his brother in college. He isn't going to be the starter at Pittsburgh. "Mental toughness" plz never heard that knock on him since Jerry said it in the war room. He doesn't disappear in big games so I don't understand this mental toughness thing.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060751 said:
1a Felix Jones RB arkansas- This is the most disappointing pick IMO and i feel as if Jerry dropped the ball. Not only was a better RB on the board at the time of this pick the highest rated player left on our board was still there. He has the biggest bust factor on him in this draft

pretty much quit reading right there...cant say I see any logic in this, nor do I agree with it

David
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060751 said:
1a Felix Jones RB arkansas- This is the most disappointing pick IMO and i feel as if Jerry dropped the ball. Not only was a better RB on the board at the time of this pick the highest rated player left on our board was still there. He has the biggest bust factor on him in this draft and we will quickly regret this pick its because of his lack of pass blocking ability him going down easily or his lack of big plays.

1b Mike Jenkins CB USF We decided to trade up three spots to get this kid not a bad idea since at one point he was consider the top CB heading into the draft however, if we would have just taken him at 22 it would have been better and jerry was to quick and impulsive taken Jones at 22.

2 Martellus Bennent TE Texas A&M we have an all pro TE in the form of Jason Witten. This kid i can't see him serving as nothing more than just height in the goaline. Jerry said there was no impact WR in this draft how ever there is no way and shape in form a TE could impact this team more than a WR would have some big names were still on the board that could have grown into #1's and 2. TE in the second round again man whats the point of having one of if not the best TE in the league. This guy is 6'7 and is a TE James Hardy is 6'6 would have made more of an impact but we will see.

4 Tashard Choice RB GT best pick in the draft for us behind Jenkins he single handed made me feel better about the day one crap feast we called a draft. Selecting a RB with to many question marks beside him and is out bench pressed by some of the members on this board (Felix Jones) incase some people didn't know who i was talking about.

5 Orlando Scandrick CB Boise ST idk who this guy is but its a corner who runs in the 4.3 area. I'm not to sure about this guy but hey like i said 4.3 speed isn't bad he could run around on special teams for the next 5-7 years since the depth we have at CB now is crazy.

6 Erik Walden DE Mid Tenn yay ! just what we need more OLB/DE hybrids for this 3-4 system of ours. I don't know much about this pick either but *meh* this is exactly what we need an OLB.

One of the things that i dislike about this draft are that most of the players we drafted we're JR. I think its better to get SR players unless the JR is a stand out like Mendenhall or Mcfadden. TE in the 2nd round again another LB 2 CB's 2 RB's cant say im happy with this in the least. Jenkins and Choice made the trade every one else will be lucky to be on the roster in the next 3 years.

This draft improved our specialt teams coverage tremendously so i guyess i can't be to upset =/

Um... Kinda hard to use Hardy as a argument of someone with better impact for that pick considering he was drafted twenty spots earlier
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dbair1967;2062130 said:
pretty much quit reading right there...cant say I see any logic in this, nor do I agree with it

David

You don't have to agree with it the facts will remain.

irishline;2062150 said:
Um... Kinda hard to use Hardy as a argument of someone with better impact for that pick considering he was drafted twenty spots earlier
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Trade up and get him Jerry was trading and doing w.e. Traded 3 spots for a CB we coulda taken at 22.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2062158 said:
You don't have to agree with it the facts will remain.
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what facts exactly? That you are trying to convince people that the guy who was more productive over his whole college career, vs better competition and with more big plays is a bad pick and compared to Mendenhall is a far worse player?

Sorry, with his talent and production he was a safe pick

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DaBoys4Life;2060911 said:
Mendenhall 40 time was faster than felix. So because he doesn't go do on first contact he is a bruiser. I saw mendenhall play atleast 2-3 times last year and never did i get the feeling that this guy was like barber and when he broke that 70 yard run I knew he could take it the distance and was sold on him. Felix Jones isn't a now player he will help in the KR game out side of that he won't be helpful. I question his ability to pass block and catch the ball. Tashard Choice will be better than a lot of people are giving him credit for like i already stated when he beats out Jones after TC and the preseason don't be surprised.
Felix can block and is a decent receiver. Scout are concerned about his blocking in the NFL based on his size. Scouts also believe he can add about 10 pounds. Also, plenty of smaller backs have proven to be good blockers. From what I saw of the two, Felix is the better blocker and pass receiver of the two. I have to confess though that I have only seen Mendenhall in a couple of games. I have seen Felix in several games. Both running backs seem to have the same game day speed. Both running backs have great vision and will run up the middle. Mendenhall is better running between the tackles, and Jones is better outside of the tackles. Both running backs are very good at both.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060751 said:
1a Felix Jones RB arkansas- This is the most disappointing pick IMO and i feel as if Jerry dropped the ball. Not only was a better RB on the board at the time of this pick the highest rated player left on our board was still there. He has the biggest bust factor on him in this draft and we will quickly regret this pick its because of his lack of pass blocking ability him going down easily or his lack of big plays.

1b Mike Jenkins CB USF We decided to trade up three spots to get this kid not a bad idea since at one point he was consider the top CB heading into the draft however, if we would have just taken him at 22 it would have been better and jerry was to quick and impulsive taken Jones at 22.

2 Martellus Bennent TE Texas A&M we have an all pro TE in the form of Jason Witten. This kid i can't see him serving as nothing more than just height in the goaline. Jerry said there was no impact WR in this draft how ever there is no way and shape in form a TE could impact this team more than a WR would have some big names were still on the board that could have grown into #1's and 2. TE in the second round again man whats the point of having one of if not the best TE in the league. This guy is 6'7 and is a TE James Hardy is 6'6 would have made more of an impact but we will see.

4 Tashard Choice RB GT best pick in the draft for us behind Jenkins he single handed made me feel better about the day one crap feast we called a draft. Selecting a RB with to many question marks beside him and is out bench pressed by some of the members on this board (Felix Jones) incase some people didn't know who i was talking about.

5 Orlando Scandrick CB Boise ST idk who this guy is but its a corner who runs in the 4.3 area. I'm not to sure about this guy but hey like i said 4.3 speed isn't bad he could run around on special teams for the next 5-7 years since the depth we have at CB now is crazy.

6 Erik Walden DE Mid Tenn yay ! just what we need more OLB/DE hybrids for this 3-4 system of ours. I don't know much about this pick either but *meh* this is exactly what we need an OLB.

One of the things that i dislike about this draft are that most of the players we drafted we're JR. I think its better to get SR players unless the JR is a stand out like Mendenhall or Mcfadden. TE in the 2nd round again another LB 2 CB's 2 RB's cant say im happy with this in the least. Jenkins and Choice made the trade every one else will be lucky to be on the roster in the next 3 years.

This draft improved our specialt teams coverage tremendously so i guyess i can't be to upset =/

Maybe you can shed light on one question that I have.

With respect to Mendenhall, why was he the lead runner at Illinois for only 1 year? It's not exactly the guy he replaced was considered a top RB coming out of college.

If the "bust" factor for F Jones is high, don't you think that PERHAPS Mendenhall is just a 1 year wonder?

I'm not saying that Mendenhall will be a bust at all. Maybe he'll be a super star. But while you're pointing out F Jones' negatives, I think to be objective you've also got to consider some of Mendenhall's negatives.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060751 said:
1a Felix Jones RB arkansas- This is the most disappointing pick IMO and i feel as if Jerry dropped the ball. Not only was a better RB on the board at the time of this pick the highest rated player left on our board was still there. He has the biggest bust factor on him in this draft and we will quickly regret this pick its because of his lack of pass blocking ability him going down easily or his lack of big plays.

1b Mike Jenkins CB USF We decided to trade up three spots to get this kid not a bad idea since at one point he was consider the top CB heading into the draft however, if we would have just taken him at 22 it would have been better and jerry was to quick and impulsive taken Jones at 22.

2 Martellus Bennent TE Texas A&M we have an all pro TE in the form of Jason Witten. This kid i can't see him serving as nothing more than just height in the goaline. Jerry said there was no impact WR in this draft how ever there is no way and shape in form a TE could impact this team more than a WR would have some big names were still on the board that could have grown into #1's and 2. TE in the second round again man whats the point of having one of if not the best TE in the league. This guy is 6'7 and is a TE James Hardy is 6'6 would have made more of an impact but we will see.

4 Tashard Choice RB GT best pick in the draft for us behind Jenkins he single handed made me feel better about the day one crap feast we called a draft. Selecting a RB with to many question marks beside him and is out bench pressed by some of the members on this board (Felix Jones) incase some people didn't know who i was talking about.

5 Orlando Scandrick CB Boise ST idk who this guy is but its a corner who runs in the 4.3 area. I'm not to sure about this guy but hey like i said 4.3 speed isn't bad he could run around on special teams for the next 5-7 years since the depth we have at CB now is crazy.

6 Erik Walden DE Mid Tenn yay ! just what we need more OLB/DE hybrids for this 3-4 system of ours. I don't know much about this pick either but *meh* this is exactly what we need an OLB.

One of the things that i dislike about this draft are that most of the players we drafted we're JR. I think its better to get SR players unless the JR is a stand out like Mendenhall or Mcfadden. TE in the 2nd round again another LB 2 CB's 2 RB's cant say im happy with this in the least. Jenkins and Choice made the trade every one else will be lucky to be on the roster in the next 3 years.

This draft improved our specialt teams coverage tremendously so i guyess i can't be to upset =/


I like your assesments....especially Jones and Bennett (though I have warmed on him)....I think people are really drinking the kool-aid on Jones .....I just don't see this guy's speed translating in the NFL and picking him forced them to use yet ANOTHER pick on a bigger back.

I would have went Mendenhall, Jenkins, Bennett, moved up to get Red Bryant, Scandrick, Monk and went with undrafted guys like Chad Simpson, and Dantrell Savage if you're looking for a scat guy.....either way it wouldn't matter because RM can play all three downs anyhow.
 

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Like you I am upset about getting him I would have much rather gotten Chris Johnson but the guy is a good player and is a good receiver and is alot more athletic and quicker than julius was so do I think it was a stretch at #22 yeah I do but he will make us better no doubt about bro
 

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Oh_Canada;2062197 said:
I like your assesments....especially Jones and Bennett (though I have warmed on him)....I think people are really drinking the kool-aid on Jones .....I just don't see this guy's speed translating in the NFL and picking him forced them to use yet ANOTHER pick on a bigger back.

I would have went Mendenhall, Jenkins, Bennett, moved up to get Red Bryant, Scandrick, Monk and went with undrafted guys like Chad Simpson, and Dantrell Savage if you're looking for a scat guy.....either way it wouldn't matter because RM can play all three downs anyhow.


The Cowboys wanted 3 running backs, thats why they drafted Choice, to compliment Barber and Jones. Cowboys would of drafted or signed a 3rd rb reguardless of drafting Jones or drafting Mendenhall
 

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too bad you never watched Felix Jones play..otherwise you might have an idea how fast he really is.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2062158 said:
You don't have to agree with it the facts will remain.



Trade up and get him Jerry was trading and doing w.e. Traded 3 spots for a CB we coulda taken at 22.


Ya but that was 3 spots in the first. 20 spots in the 2nd round? You really serious about that? And if we didn't take Jones at 22 we would not have gotten him (nor Mendenhall for that matter at 28). Either of the two would have required a trade up. If we took Jenkins at 22, Pittsburgh takes Mendenhall at 23 and Tenn takes Jones at 24 (as they said they would have). We take either running back at 22 (as we did) and stayed put Houston was going to take Jenkins at 26. So i really don't see how knowing what was going on for 5 picks in the first even remotely equates to knowing whos going to take what wide receiver 20 picks before you... :cool:
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060817 said:
I'm just saying for all this hype on the SEC where are the players impacting the league on defense at.
There is a punch line to this, right?
 

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DaBoys4Life;2060918 said:
doesn't have anything to do with pet cat. Mendenhall was the better pick better prospect and will be the better pro.

Your opinion...could be right....could be wrong. Given Dallas' current roster, they still may have made the better team pick in either case.
 

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Woods;2062179 said:
Maybe you can shed light on one question that I have.

With respect to Mendenhall, why was he the lead runner at Illinois for only 1 year? It's not exactly the guy he replaced was considered a top RB coming out of college.

If the "bust" factor for F Jones is high, don't you think that PERHAPS Mendenhall is just a 1 year wonder?

I'm not saying that Mendenhall will be a bust at all. Maybe he'll be a super star. But while you're pointing out F Jones' negatives, I think to be objective you've also got to consider some of Mendenhall's negatives.

I don't think MendenHall is a one year wonder just produce when given his chance to produce. I don't know why the other guy started over him or who the other guy was you would have to ask the Illionois coaching staff for that. Yes i think Mendenhall is the better back than him even if you point out his negatives that doesn't make Felix better.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2060890 said:
Some people have gotten their noses bent out of shape because the Cowboys didn't select their "pet cat(s)".

That may be true, but I'll have you know that I'm currently in discussions with JJ over a contract for my Chocolate (not that his color should matter) Lab, Monty. He's a FS and a bit of a ball-hawk. He can also run with a WR down-field. The 'boys are just checking with the League over some of the contract language (how many milkbones of cap space they have, etc.).
 
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